Replaced the Oil...whoa!

[Viper-2]

Replaced the oil yesterday for the first time on the truck with 3,973 miles on it. First thing I noticed is that the location of the oil bolt and filter are in the best place with the most easy access I have ever done in doing oil changes on my cars and trucks in 24 years. Did my wife's Civic and my Honda Shadow also.

BUT!

What the Hell was Toyota thinking torquing the frickin oil filter to 8,000 lbs's with a Hemimemtic seal on it?!

Seriously...was that unecessary or do they have some sort of purpose for that?

I bent my oil filter wrench getting it off. I read in other places (this board as well as Toyota Nation) that others have had the same problems. I'm glad I read these boards first or I would have though it was a non-removable filter or some shit like that.

Lastly, does anyone know why they do this replaceable washer for the drain bolt? First time I've ever had to do that.

Well, next time it'll be a breeze.

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by Viper-2

Replaced the oil yesterday for the first time on the truck with 3,973 miles on it. First thing I noticed is that the location of the oil bolt and filter are in the best place with the most easy access I have ever done in doing oil changes on my cars and trucks in 24 years. Did my wife's Civic and my Honda Shadow also.

BUT!

What the Hell was Toyota thinking torquing the frickin oil filter to 8,000 lbs's with a Hemimemtic seal on it?!

Seriously...was that unecessary or do they have some sort of purpose for that?

I bent my oil filter wrench getting it off. I read in other places (this board as well as Toyota Nation) that others have had the same problems. I'm glad I read these boards first or I would have though it was a non-removable filter or some shit like that.

Lastly, does anyone know why they do this replaceable washer for the drain bolt? First time I've ever had to do that.

Well, next time it'll be a breeze.

hey man, i feel your pain for the filter being so damn tight!!! the first time i changed oil in my prerunner after the previous service was done by toyota......holy crap!! i had to put a screwdriver straight thru the filter to loosen it!! you are right though, the next one will be a breeze! and i agree about the drain plug and filter location......makes these oil changes easy as pie!! and you can actually reuse the "drain plug gasket" again......just dont tighten the shit outta it!

[linkfeeney]

Originally Posted by Viper-2

Replaced the oil yesterday for the first time on the truck with 3,973 miles on it. First thing I noticed is that the location of the oil bolt and filter are in the best place with the most easy access I have ever done in doing oil changes on my cars and trucks in 24 years. Did my wife's Civic and my Honda Shadow also.

BUT!

What the Hell was Toyota thinking torquing the frickin oil filter to 8,000 lbs's with a Hemimemtic seal on it?!

Seriously...was that unecessary or do they have some sort of purpose for that?

I bent my oil filter wrench getting it off. I read in other places (this board as well as Toyota Nation) that others have had the same problems. I'm glad I read these boards first or I would have though it was a non-removable filter or some shit like that.

Lastly, does anyone know why they do this replaceable washer for the drain bolt? First time I've ever had to do that.

Well, next time it'll be a breeze.

did you tight the oil filter by hand or use the wrench again?
what filter did u use? toyota or mobil 1?

thanks!

[dirthawker1313]

mine was just as tight as well..i wrestled with it for 20 min.. i made sure when i put my new one on ( an amsoil one) that i just hand tightened it. i dont want to have to wrestle it again.

[ellsworth]

filter goes on dry at the factory..1st ons always a mother...Drain plug ring is a one time thing or crush washer...I dont recomend reusing them...The tight fit comes from distorting the ring and not stretching the threads reuse the ring enough and guess what????? Yep, a nice new oil pan!

[flyman767]

That is the reason a replaced my drain bolt with a Fumoto...I can't ever remember changing the oil in any vehicle where the oil discharged at such a high rate. The Fumoto is a snap..lift the level, draining the oil is snap, it's quick, and best off all.. no mess.

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/

[linkfeeney]

Originally Posted by flyman767

That is the reason a replaced my drain bolt with a Fumoto...I can't ever remember changing the oil in any vehicle where the oil discharged at such a high rate. They Fumoto is a snap..lift the level, drain the oil is easy, quick, and no mess.

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/

whoa... that flow oil thing is awesome!!!!
I guess u have it for the truck...what size is it? the 12mm or 18mm

[flyman767]

Our truck's use model# F103. If you order yours from this website and enter the code "YM4" at checkout, you'll get 10% off. Well worth the $20.00 bucks IMO...
http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/Se...ts.asp?Cat=188

Originally Posted by linkfeeney

whoa... that flow oil thing is awesome!!!!
I guess u have it for the truck...what size is it? the 12mm or 18mm

[linkfeeney]

i think i have come concluded that

Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum along with K&N oil filter would be the best ever!!!

[tacomaman06]

Originally Posted by linkfeeney

i think i have come concluded that

Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum along with K&N oil filter would be the best ever!!!

it will make your truck very,very happy!!!

[Viper-2]

Originally Posted by linkfeeney

did you tight the oil filter by hand or use the wrench again?
what filter did u use? toyota or mobil 1?

thanks!

I tightened it the correct way with a contact of the gasket and then 3/4 of a turn. I used a Purolator Pureone.

[Viper-2]

Originally Posted by flyman767

That is the reason a replaced my drain bolt with a Fumoto...I can't ever remember changing the oil in any vehicle where the oil discharged at such a high rate. The Fumoto is a snap..lift the level, draining the oil is snap, it's quick, and best off all.. no mess.

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/

I agree, it was fast. I think I may get one of these valves.

[Viet2100]

I think they were doin a group buy over at TN.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=210379

[flyman767]

Yes...there is a group buy over at TN, hence the reason for the "YM4" code at checkout(10& discount). This is the same discount code thats been active on bobtheoilguy.com for quite some time.

Originally Posted by Viet2100

I think they were doin a group buy over at TN.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=210379

[linkfeeney]

Originally Posted by flyman767

Yes...there is a group buy over at TN, hence the reason for the "YM4" code at checkout(10& discount). This is the same discount code thats been active on bobtheoilguy.com for quite some time.

so do you have it install in ur truck?
does it drain slow? need feedbank!!!
thanks!

[ellsworth]

Originally Posted by linkfeeney

i think i have come concluded that

Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum along with K&N oil filter would be the best ever!!!

amsoil.com 0w30 series 2000

[flyman767]

I just installed it on my last oil change. Yes, it does drain somewhat slower than the original drain plug (due to the opening being a little smaller) however, if you warm the oil prior to changing it, the additional time is minimal. The best feature, of course, is the "no mess" and not having to replace the crush washer. IMO, well worth the 20 bucks.

Originally Posted by linkfeeney

so do you have it install in ur truck?
does it drain slow? need feedbank!!!
thanks!

[flyman767]

I agree... The performance of Amsoil's 0W-30 2000 series oil is hard to beat. In addition, when running it conjunction with the EaO series microglass filters, it's an impressive combined series with excellent UAO(oil analysis) numbers.

Originally Posted by ellsworth

amsoil.com 0w30 series 2000

[bfriatc]

Originally Posted by ellsworth

filter goes on dry at the factory..1st ons always a mother...Drain plug ring is a one time thing or crush washer...I dont recomend reusing them...The tight fit comes from distorting the ring and not stretching the threads reuse the ring enough and guess what????? Yep, a nice new oil pan!

Where do you get a new drain plug ring or crush washer? Auto parts store? How much do those go for?

[Turbonium]

Originally Posted by Viper-2

Lastly, does anyone know why they do this replaceable washer for the drain bolt? First time I've ever had to do that.

I can't shed any light on why, but I know Toyota has being doing it for a long time. My 1991 Toyota MR2 had a replace-it-every-time fiberous washer for the drain plug, too. And that was 16-17 model-years ago. I bought like 20 of them in 1991 for all my oil changes going forward. They were cheap then... a buck a piece sounds high. I can only imagine what they go for now.

Maybe the washer is a legacy thing that they haven't seen any need to get rid of.