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Rock Sliders: welded or bolt on...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by RileyLAFD, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Jul 17, 2014 at 6:33 AM
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    Capita

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    I have a few times with the hi-lift jack. Honestly I was more scared of the Jack slipping so I bought a floor jack for seasonal tire changing. I would use the jack on the sliders anytime if I had to get unstuck. I do a lot of hunting and the sliders did save my truck a few times.
     
  2. Jul 17, 2014 at 6:49 AM
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    Bought bolt on..but they were the poser kind that bolted to the cab mounts and not the frame. They were crazy cheap (I think like $225 shipped). When I got them I wasn't sure about off-roading all that much. But then I got the itch and needed something stronger. I didn't really have the time to convert to bolt-on-to-the-frame sliders like in the one thread posted above (the TW member I use for the conversion is located an hour away one way). So I went with a weld on conversion. Cost me $150 for the conversion and only a couple of hours. Really happy with the outcome.
     
  3. Jul 17, 2014 at 7:02 AM
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    I have the BAMF bolt on sliders with kick-outs. I can lift the truck easily with them using a hi-lift, no flex at all.

    The holes are a pain in the butt to drill. The horizontal bolts use existin holes in the frame, but the vertical bolts that go from the bottom up took some time to drill.
     
  4. Jul 17, 2014 at 7:24 AM
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    Excuse my ignorance and stupidity in the question, but wouldn't purposely drilling holes in the frame void the warranty of the frame? I know it doesn't affect it on a large scale but it's something the dealership could argue; You are "technically" compromising the structural integrity of the frame by drilling into it. I know you can say that the frame has holes in it from the factory but I assume they know what holes come in the frame from the factory.

    Has anyone been told this by the dealership?

    Again, probably a dumb thought..

    :smack:
     
  5. Jul 17, 2014 at 7:28 AM
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    No idea really.
    I guess the same argument can be made with improperly welded on sliders
     
  6. Jul 17, 2014 at 8:23 AM
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    How far do the heads of the vertical bolts stick out from underneath the frame? Have you had any issue with them getting sheared off or ground down off roading? I'm interested in bolt on sliders as I would like to be able to take them off with little to no issue.

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  7. Jul 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM
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    What are you doing/using to touch up the powder coat?
     
  8. Jul 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM
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    Not at bolt ons require drilling.
     
  9. Jul 17, 2014 at 10:09 AM
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    Welding does not necessarily add integrity. It also adds pockets for water and salt to get trapped. Ever see pics of weld ons peel away the frame? Not pretty
     
  10. Jul 17, 2014 at 10:25 AM
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    The ones I had didn't require drilling but they bolted to the cab where you would mount nerf bars.

    Decided later on after buying and receiving them that I wanted something stronger.



    I wasn't saying that weld on would guarantee that they couldn't void the warranty :eek: i was just trying to say that they still could void the warranty because they drilled into the frame
     
  11. Jul 17, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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    :cheers:
     
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    No rust in Seattle ish?

    Mine bolt to the frame. It's my daily driver and will never be crawling over any crazy rocks. So they work for what I need.
     
  13. Jul 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM
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    Mine have been welded on for (5) years. No issues with the welds, or my spray paint job post-welding. Frame rails painted on both sides. Paint has held up fine. However, one area to watch out for is the boxed part of the frame near the front wheel wells. It is difficult to access, and welding will burn the paint on the inside, so owner will have to address that. It's important to mention, because it can't be easily seen without a flashlight, etc.

    And contrary to what was posted earlier, drilling holes and welding to the frame does not void warranty. Warranty repair can be denied if modifications cause problems, the burden to show this is always on the dealer/factory. Normally common sense prevails in these cases, but I wanted to state that in case anyone wanted to know for sure.

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    Your post is a classic example of what I just wrote. Whatever modifications an owner makes to a vehicle, there is risk involved. There should be no question about that. The point I was making is that the modification does not automatically void a warranty. Every warranty claim is subject to independent review, the dealer has a responsibility to investigate customers claims and evaluate the stated condition and what you posted is one persons example of attempting to receive some warranty benefit for some reason.

    One thing an owner can do to help themselves is document with written logs and photographs of modifications made pre and post if possible. Photos can be shown as proof that due diligence was done.
     
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    I have been using Tremclad Rust Paint (glossy black) To touch up the scraped up/peeling parts of the powdercoating. So far its pretty good. I sanded down the damaged areas first then applied the paint
     
  17. Jul 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM
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    I got the allpro sliders and didnt know if i wanted to bolt or weld, ended up welding them because i didnt want to drill 20 small holes on each side of the truck. Also have a 2013 and dealer told me nothing about warranty loss
     
  18. Jul 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM
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    I guess I've got to start this very soon....

    All pro was the vendor I was leaning toward if anything.
     
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    Yea I love mines. put them to use a couple times. I would rather have a couple beads welded on my frame then 16-20 holes drilled each side. make your frame swiss cheese lol
     
  20. Jul 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM
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    I guess I've got to start this very soon....
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    Practicing my mig welding as we speak.
     

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