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Arbitration didn't go well..........

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by XJ1100JKen, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. Aug 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM
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    XJ1100JKen

    XJ1100JKen [OP] Well-Known Member

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    nice

     
  2. Aug 6, 2014 at 10:54 PM
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    Dirk has a valid point, and an awesome name.
     
  3. Aug 6, 2014 at 11:13 PM
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    That's awesome! I mean, I normally side with labor, but the second (dealer) sign is hilarious.
     
  4. Aug 7, 2014 at 7:12 AM
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    I can't imagine those acceptable tolerances would be manipulated to ensure 99.9999% of every production vehicles passes those standards?:rolleyes:

    Yes, he does.. and he lives in Ohio


     
  5. Aug 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM
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    something to ponder, everyone has a different definition of 'vibration' So we can't say that his truck has an issue or he is just very particular about every little bump/noise.

    The OP drove 2 different trucks and found the same vibration.

    At this point, it's not a defect with his particular truck, but rather he doesn't like the way the truck drives.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2014 at 4:45 PM
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    Hmmm... no. the technician felt the vibration, the field service tech felt the vibration.. me and my wife both felt the vibration. Not a bump in the road, it's freshly redone asphalt. Yes, the vibrations were felt in two other trucks built and delivered to that dealership Dec of 2013. possibly an issue during dec 2013. I invite you to come on over and drive it, for $30K it should not vibrate like this. Do you work for Toyota?



     
  7. Aug 7, 2014 at 4:56 PM
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    For some reason, people defend the manufacturer, I don't get it.. If this truck didn't vibrate, like it does.. we were planning on keeping it till the wheels fell off!

    I just don't get why anybody would defend the manufacturer, unless they worked for them or they were total mindless fanboys.

    I get that not everybody is experiencing the same problems we are, some people are, but the fact is, Toyota, like many other manufacturers push product out the door with defects and expect us to accept it as a gift! It's not! I work hard and should not have to take a $5k loss to move on so they can continue to steamroll the public.
     
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  8. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    [​IMG]
     
  9. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:14 PM
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    oh.. I get it it, just trolling.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:18 PM
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    Hey, thanks MOD.. as parting remark

     
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  11. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:20 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Easy buddy. That's Jeremy Clarksons "Not Bad" pic.....I was siding with your post.
     
  12. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:20 PM
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    TeamSarcasm Flawless Escalation to the Ludicrous

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    The better coast
    well nothing is perfect in the world and you have to give and take with everything. So lets say you get a 100% full refund.

    what vehicle will you then pick up?


    your wrinkle lines are showing :D
     
  13. Aug 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM
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    By all means, If you feel you got something that sint to your liking, your in your right to press the issue.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2014 at 6:44 PM
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    Haven't given it thought much thought. We wanted a compact truck, didn't like everything (small issues) about the Frontier.. not too many choices though. We bought new hoping to avoid any mechanical issues associated with used vehicles, cuase new vehicles are less prone to them, not.

     
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  16. Aug 8, 2014 at 3:14 AM
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    Yeah, I read about that..


    [/QUOTE]f150 with ecoboost. toyota reliability not good at all frames suck. if they didnt offer frame replacements you wouldnt see hardly any tacomas at all in the snowy states. thats why they are forced to do free frame replacements because it would crush their reputation for reliability.[/QUOTE]
     
  17. Aug 8, 2014 at 3:40 AM
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    total mindless fanboys.


    I agree
     
  18. Aug 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM
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    Ok, after talking with the Attorney I know and getting the reality speech..

    "it's gonna take up a lot of our time and cost us lot of money, if we lose"

    I decided to try a couple more things to cure the vibration issues. A couple people have made recommendation regarding the carrier bearing. Changing the orientation, shimming, shifting it from one side to the other, filing the void with silicone.. which I did research on the ol' interweb and found several people have achieved success ridding/reducing their vehicles of driveline vibration. I went a step further and tried silicone, polyurethane shore 60A and shore 40A.
    It did not work for the Tacoma.. er, my Tacoma. The silicone was the most pliable, the polyurethane 40A was like a dense pencil eraser and the 60A was about the density of tire rubber. They all transmitted vibrations. The silicone was a bit worse than the std. unmodified CB. The Shore 60A was really rough, very noisy, transmitted a lot of noise into the cab.. I don't think it allowed for too much lateral movement of the DS with suspension compression and off loading.
    The polyurethane Shore 40A was not as bad as the 60A, but still not a fix. So, 4 carrier bearings ruined.. one not mentioned above due to the "silicone" not fully curing due to the thickness and poor selection of material on my part.
    After lots of research, I figured a 1 piece aluminum DS was the last and probably the best option. The 2 piece DS that was in the truck was trued and balanced by a DS company in Nashville, TN. but I didn't really like his welds and don't think he can do a high speed balance.
    The shop I used Action Machine located in South Bend, Indiana. The gentleman I worked with is Bob Guzman, super nice guy. Rather than taking a bunch of different measurements of the yoke, spline, flange etc. I decided to send in my yoke and flange for the build, then there was only one measurement to take, DS center of cap to center of cap.. 71" and it was a bit cheaper.. less than $400 shipped

    Kind of a long winded explanation, but there you have it.. and here is the completed DS prior to shipping. 4" X 71" .125 thick 6061 DOM aluminum, kinda pretty too!

    I should receive it Tuesday..

    image001.jpg
     
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  19. Aug 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM
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    I hope yours drives as perfect as mine when you are done. Good luck
     
  20. Aug 22, 2014 at 1:03 PM
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    Me too! I really like almost everything about the truck, if the DS takes care of the bad vibes, I can have the seats modified (minor) and it will be a keeper..

    Thanks karmatp

     

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