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Old 09-10-2014, 12:59 PM   #1
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Question for body shop guys...just got rear ended

Overall faired pretty well. But when I climbed underneath, I noticed the frame was bent on both sides where the bumper was driven down. Do you think they will total it? It is an 06 TRD OR Dbl cab with 86,600 miles.

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Old 09-10-2014, 01:00 PM   #2
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Pics of drivers side frame
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:02 PM   #3
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Pics if pass side frame

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Old 09-10-2014, 01:44 PM   #4
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I went through this a little over year ago.. here is my thread
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...ew-driver.html

some advice.. dont let them "straighten" the frame.. metal fatigue is real, and your frame will not be as strong. a frame replacement is about 10K from toyota, plus your truck will be built by a dude named bob and not by Toyota.. .. add in depreciated value, which you should absolutly claim and you will be in the total range. let me know if i can be of any help. I fought for a total, it took time and patience.. but it paid off in the end and im in a new truck.
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It can be repaired if you want it to be.
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After seeing all these rear end collisions lately, would the SpareBumper help in this particular situation?

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After seeing all these rear end collisions lately, would the SpareBumper help in this particular situation?

possibly.. as it has a shock absorber.. however in myy case the car tried to go under me forcing the bumper down.. I had a hitch bar in and it acted like a prybar on my frame.. I could see this doing that as well.. i would think this would only help in a direct contact level hit, and a small one at that.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:24 PM   #8
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It really doesn't look that bad to me... I would let them straighten the frame the 1/8th of inch back to where it was.

I've been told the frame doesn't actually get weaker but it actually work hardens from being bent. This is coming from my dad who has been doing this kind of work since before I was around.
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Do you want them to total it?

It looks repairable to me.
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It really doesn't look that bad to me... I would let them straighten the frame the 1/8th of inch back to where it was.

I've been told the frame doesn't actually get weaker but it actually work hardens from being bent. This is coming from my dad who has been doing this kind of work since before I was around.
so, bending the frame back and forth makes it stronger?
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so, bending the frame back and forth makes it stronger?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening
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that is a theory...
this is a fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fatigue

you and I have been around this discussion before.. in the end.. i would never have a bent back into place frame.
if it makes your frame stronger.. why dont you do it to yours? ;-)
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that is a theory...
this is a fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fatigue
Work hardening isn't a theory lol... Did you just scroll down to where it explained how it worked and ignored the 20+ methods using work hardening used every day?
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Oh fuck who cares.

OP glad you're okay. Let us know how insurance goes. Frame damage in pics is really fairly minimal, so curious to see what the adjuster tries to push. That said, if you don't want it repaired, push for a total. If not, push for a repair!
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Work hardening isn't a theory lol... Did you just scroll down to where it explained how it worked and ignored the 20+ methods using work hardening used every day?
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did you expect anything else?
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:04 PM   #18
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I appreciate all the input. On one hand I don't want a repaired frame and my wife hates the speedway blue BUT I just installed Fox 2.0's front and rear and my tires are almost new. Not to mention all the other stuff like all new synthetic fluids, URD short shift kit, Weathertech mats front and rear, etc. the list goes on and on!
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Beave, yours was real bad. If I remember, the frame was folded and earned a total loss.

They may not want to total the OP's truck.

BTW, welcome back.... I miss getting a chuckle from you.
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After seeing all these rear end collisions lately, would the SpareBumper help in this particular situation?

I like this, I was gonna use one of those 3 way draw bars.
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