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Toytec 5100 eibach coil overs and dakars w/AAL

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TOYOTA 09, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM
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    TOYOTA 09

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    QUESTION 1:

    Just installed the toytec 5100 coil overs that come pre assembled from toytec with eibach springs. It seems as though they have a little less lift then the full OME coils overs with 884 springs and top plate spaces. My understanding is that the OME set up gives a full 3 inch front lift. Are the toytec 5100 coil overs with eibachs made to give a full three inch lift? I have a 2009 access cab. NO AFTERMARKET BUMPER.

    QUESTION 2:

    in the rear I WAS running the TSB LEAF and a toytec AAL. My truck was dead level. Like I mentioned above, I switched the front out to the 5100 coil over and now I'm rear high about 1 inch. My next question is if I install the full Dakar springs WITH EXTRA LEAF...will I be even higher in the rear then I am now....should I install the dakars without the AAL?
     
  2. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:28 AM
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    question !: i think if u set the 5100's on the 2nd notch from the bottom and use the eibach springs u will set right around 2.5" and the a 1/4 top plate spacer is required for a full 3" with no additional weight in front. and u would actually be just under 3" cuz the springs by themselves give u 1.6" then + .85" for the preload setting gets u 2.45" plus roughly 1/2" for the 1/4" spacer gets u 2.95" so splitting hairs on the full 3" imho.

    dunno on the Q2
     
  3. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM
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    1) if the 5100's are at 0 the Eibachs provide 1.6" of lift

    2) yes , unless you carry a constant 500 lbs or more
     
  4. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM
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    Why don't people buy a different leaf pack if they are going to pull the 3rd from the Dakars

    :notsure:
     
  5. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM
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    This is bumming me out! So the Dakar pack with out the AAL is going to make my rear sit higher than it is now?

    Also my understanding is that the 5100 come set at .85 from toytec.
     
  6. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:50 AM
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    The pack alone give 2.75" of lift in the rear.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:52 AM
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    Not sure what top plate spacer you are referencing...they came pre assembled from toytec:

    http://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/ToytecBilstein-5100-coilovers_p_363.html
     
  8. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM
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    Ok...now we are getting somewhere....so the Dakar with the AAL should give how much lift?


    Right now as I mentioned I have the TSB leaf and an extra AAL in the rear and I am 1 inch higher in the rear....I like this look and want to get close to it. Not sure how much lift the TSB AAL pplus extra AAL I have on there now gives?


    Basically I need to know if I should be using the extra leaf in the darker leaf pack or not....

    What is it a 1 inch rake when we buy these truck off the lot?
     
  9. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:55 AM
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    Define FULL pack? Toytec sells and recommends getting the EXTRA LEAF for the dakars to make a full 3 inch lift.
     
  10. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:57 AM
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    So the pack alone is 2.7s" of lift. The D29XL AAL adds 5mm or approx .2" to the Dakars. You will sit at 2.95" with the D29XL leaf pack.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2014 at 11:59 AM
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  12. Oct 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM
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    It's not too difficult to visualize

    The truck has approx 1 1/2" - 2" of rake stock

    add 3" up front and 3" in the rear and your new lifted truck will have 1 1/2" - 2" of rake , just 3" further from the worms
     
  13. Oct 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM
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    LOL Wheeler's actually says 15mm..so with that, you'll sit at 3.34" OP
     
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    on bilstein's website there is an optional 1/4" spacer with the kit. wheelers has 1/4" (and 3/8" for ~3/4") poly spacers for like $7.50 so that wouldnt be a big deal to get 3" just have to take the whole assembly out and put the spacer on top the put everything back in
     
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    Wow..so many different numbers for what this leaf pack gives
     
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    Check out my Dakar height thread for real world averages
     
  17. Oct 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM
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    What about using the top plate spacers from my OME setup?
     
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    oh yeah that should work, they're 1/4" right?
     
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    Yes...but aluminum...would rubber be better?
     
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    no, i would think metal would be better, i was being budget minded but if u already have them they will be just fine
     

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