Parking brake?

What versions of the 2nd gens have the old school parking brake under the dash?

What is the alternative to the old school parking brake? Is it a center console parking brake or a floor foot brake?

 

I think all the 2nd gens with the manual tranny have it...

 

That ^ manuals. And all others are on the floor.

 

another reason why manuals are far superior. old school parking brake

 

Parking brake
its like a dick use it or loose it!!!
lol

 

pff.... no coin tray for you..... AT >>> MT.

 

Wait, you AT guys have coin trays?! Damn it!

 

The "old school" parking brake was one of the main reasons I did not get a manual tranny. The e brake lever should be between the seats for assistance in starting on steep grades. Having the ebrake old school style is useless for that purpose and in addition might cause you to forget to set it when parked.

 

I didn't find that to be an issue on either of my manuals with that brake. You can keep the brake enganged, then put it into gear, as you're letting the clutch out just release the brake as usual, no need to keep your hand on the shifter.

 

Hill starts are no problem for me either with the old school parking brake. No need for me to hold the shifter.

I thought it was kind of cool that my 2009 has the same style parking brake as my dad had in his 85 SR5 truck back in the day.

 

LOL wut ? manual tranny and steep grades is about skill, no ebrake needed. ever. except for the unskilled or untrainable

ever heard of heel-toe ? one foot used to operate two pedals at same time.
that is how you navigate on steeps with a manual tranny if your skills or reaction timing is bad,
or the steepness is so severe that two feet can't do it without one being heel-toe

 

Or use the parking brake. Don't know about you but my size 12 1/2 kind of get in the way far easier to use the brake.

 

Brake? Just release the clutch until it begins to put a strain on the motor. Hold it there while you move your right foot from the break to the throttle. It will keep the truck from rolling backward and makes it simple and easy. I do the same thing in my semi trucks to prevent rough starts on steep hills. I haul eggs so I can not afford rough starts.

 

^^^this guy explains it well.

add heel-toe brake/throttle if you think your clutch is gonna fry, or travel is tricky and you need
to hold it like this longer

or a Turd auto Atrac with hillholder like mine

 

Toyota has had this design for YEARS in their trucks. Personally, I like the "old school" style e brake

 

Say what you want about how old school e-brakes are fine, but as someone who has been driving manual transmission vehicles since 1967 I have to say that the placement of the brake under the dash is simply not as useful as having it between the seats. It is egonomically (is that a word?) poor and less utile. Yes, one can heel/toe the vehicle on an incline, but that does mean more wear on your clutch as more pressure is put on it than when you ease up on the e-brake and "gently" engage the gears.

 

heel toe does not mean more clutch wear

heel toe means you are using the footbrake/throttle and no ebrake/throttle

that is all it means.

with the new toyota [brake/throttle kill safety] maybe you can't do this
heel/toe anymore

 

I don't understand how it's really any different, regardless of the placement. If ever needed under certain circumstances... Regardless of placement, it will still be used in the same way. Once you feel the gear catching when you're releasing the clutch, just reach up and disengage it, same as you would with a console one.

How do you see that it's operationally different, besides placement?