Lifting you truck! Things you need to know.

toku58 · 06-09-2009, 11:24 PM

First Of all let me go over some basic terminology for truck.

Coilover: A coilover refers to the front coil spring and shock assembly. They are built as one unit, unlike a spring and shock suspension which are 2 seperate parts.

Shock: A shock is an oil or gas filled piston unit that when installed are designed to resists quick or shocking movement.

UCA: Are the Upper Control Arms of your front IFS (Independent front suspension) Mainly responsible for the vertical alignment of the front spindles. (For the most part it is non- load bearing)

LCA: Are the Lower Control Arms of the front IFS. This is the part that will see most of the load in you front suspension. It works in unison with the UCA.

Add-A-Leaf Or commonly referred to as AAL's! these are additional springs that are excessively arched to provide additional lift or support to the rear of our trucks. (They maybe used in the front of some vehicles but NOT ours!)

Leaf Pack: Leaf packs are just that a replacement "set" of leaf springs designed to have a better spring rate, and in some cases add lift or additional load capacity.

Alignment I'm sure everyone has heard of alignment. Every car or turk need their alignment check periodically. Alignment is very important in determining the performance characteristics of a vehicle.

Caster: is the angle that your front tire are tilted in relation to the steering axis!

Camber: Camber is the angle that you tires are in relation to the vertical axis when viewed from the front of the vehicle.

Toe: Toe is the angle at which your front tire turn in or out in relationship to each other.

Here is a good link to help understand your alignment:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4

First off lifts!

There are several types of lifts offered for our trucks. We'll start with the least costly. I will touch on Spacer lift kits, Coil lift kits, and Coilover lift kits. Also I will try to provide links, as they are applicable.

Options for the front!

Bilstien 5100's This is a great affordable lift kit. These replacement shocks are great to add a few inches to the front of your Tacoma, it is adjustable and have a slightly better valving system than the stock shocks that come with the Tacoma's. (But please take note NO One recommends it to be used in conjunction with after market coils) This may result in damage of your suspension components.
Adjustment heights
1 - 0"
2 - 0.85"
3 - 1.75"
4 - 2.5"
_______

Pro Basic kit from Toytec: $209.99
Spacer Lifts: These are spacers made primarily out of aluminum. They are installed on top of your coils and also on top of the strut plate.

There are spacers from Ready Lifts: http://www.readylift.com/

This is a link to how these lifts are installed in the front:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...mtrdsport.html

OME coils lift kits from Toytec: $299.98
This kit comes with replacement coils for the front, 884 or 885's. These are longer replacement coils, which also come with a 1/2" Aluminum spacer. The Install will be basically the same as the spacer kit. (Link posted above)

Coilover lift kit: $1050.00 Free s/h
(DR Coilovers) Most common. Others are available such as Sway-A-way, Fabtech, All Pro, and Camburg to name a few?
These are the high end of the 3" lifts. Extremely easy to install, due to the fact they come already assembled. It is simply a matter of remove and replace. They are also very versatile, in that they are adjustable. Therefore can be adjusted to fit your needs.

Exclusive for 2wd
Camburg spindles, these spindles will yield 4" lift for your 2wd Tacoma. They cannot be used on a 4x4.
http://www.camburg.com/PDF/tacoma%20spindle%20info.pdf
Total Chaos Spindles:

http://www.chaosfab.com/toyaccess_05taco.html

Coil spring rates

The spring rates for the OME and OEM are:

-OEM (factory) 550 lbs/in
-OME884 590 lbs/in 385mm
-OME885 590 lbs/in 395mm
-OME886 660 lbs/in 402mm

For comparison the here are a few more:

-SAW2.0 675 lbs/in
-DR (Icon) 650 lbs/in
-AllPro 650lbs/in

REAR Lifts options:

First off you have:
Lift blocks:
These are blocks of metal that are placed under you rear leaf packs, on top of your axles. The kit includes the lift blocks and longer U-bolts. This is the most basic of the rear lifts and adds NO additional benefits other than height.

Add-A-Leafs
This type of lift consists of an additional Leaf spring that has an increased arc. They added lift by increasing the curve of your rear stock spring pack. They also allow added load capacity for hauling.

This is the instructions for the AAL rear install:
http://www.toyteclifts.com/PDFfiles/...TIONS2%200.pdf

Leaf Packs:
This type of rear lift is the high end of rear lifts.
Consists of a new multiple spring pack. Provides lift, a smoother spring rate. May add or decrease carrying capacity depending on the spring characteristics.

This rear lift is also fairly simple to do since they come pre-assembled. Simply R&R.

These lifts can be found at:

http://www.toyteclifts.com/0507tacoc...07tacoliftkits

http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoma.htm

Here is a link to Alcan:
http://www.alcanspring.com/making.htm

Body Lift $325.95 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...scon/5603.html
This is a lift that is Achieved by adding spacers to the body mounting points. This lift essentially increases the distance between the frame and the cab. This lift requires other parts such as fuel line extension, bumper brackets, and larger fender skirts to hide the increased gap, between the fender and the frame. You will also need to extend the steering unit.

CT link basically cover same info:
http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?article=137

Upper Control "A" arms (UCA's)

UCA's are The A arms at the top of your Indipendant Front Suspension

I will cover 2 Brands Camburg, and Total Chaos. There are others like All Pro or DR, but since I have No first hand experience with these I'll let others chime in on them.

Camburg UCA's: from my experience, and from what Camburg has informed me about, were designed to give greater clearance to accommodate larger coil over coils. They are NOT designed to correct alignment issues, caused by the addition of a 3" lift.

Total Chaos: These are UCA's specifically designed to help correct the alignment issue caused by the addition of a 3" lift.
~~Total Chaos~~ also makes a Heim joint UCA's designed to be used with 6" DB lifts.

All Pro: Are also designed to correct Alignment issues.

Light Racing These UCA's are a new design, they allow more range of adjustment. Works well with 3" and 6" lifts.

Here are some links to read in reguards to UCA's.

Install:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171569.html

Problems with Camburg
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171670.html
Comparison:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t173282.html

Wheels and tire:
(Thanks to MrGrimm)
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t184562.html

Wheel Spacers (If you would like to run your stock rims? I recommend these)
http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...dproduct=10887

Q&A links
Can you use your stock shocks with a coil lift?

YES! But remember with a 3" lift the stock shocks will only have about 1" of down travel.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t189189.html

Bilstein 5100: This lift is also at it's full extent it will have only about 1" of down travel.

Both of these lifts are limited by the length of the shock. Both will have a jarring sensation when traveling over bumps at speed.

OME makes longer shocks which are designed for a 3" lift. This will allow better articulation of your suspension. BUT! Remember with the increased travel you will need longer brake lines.

"possible issues"

-After you lift your truck, and find that at speed it wanders all over the road?
-You need a set of UCA's to correct you alignment.

-Remember that mostly everything you alter on your truck's suspension will have an affect on other components.

-Excessive wear on CV boots due to increased angle.
-You can install a differential drop.

-Rear drive line vibration or shudder.
-Carrier bearing drop. (IMHO not a good idea)
-Tom Woods one piece drive shaft. (So far this seems to be the only cure)

Tire rubbing:

Although the height is increased with a lift? The size of the wheel/fender opening remains the same.
So in actuality the stock 265's are the biggest tire that can articulate and clear through 98% of the suspensions range of movement.

The 285's is more for aesthetics and looks rather than serious offraoding.

If you choose to run 285's, with a 3" lift, and you want to do some serious offroading? Then you may need to cut away a portion of you front body mount, to allow the tire free movement while doing full turns.

But don't be mistaken with this set up you can still do some great offroading! You just may encounter some rubbing of your tires.

Here is some info on Achieving proper alignment, and the importance of UCA's:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...alignment.html

This Thread is meant as a starting point, or as a guideline. Things may vary in different situations, and individual results.

Please take everything I have stated with a "grain of salt" and decide for yourself!

Good Luck!

EDIT:
Here's a bit of additional information:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...7&postcount=28

TacoGuy05 · 06-09-2009, 11:41 PM

niceeee thread

briangp · 06-10-2009, 03:45 AM

Thanks for pretty much being a badass bro.... hopefully bringing some of these stickies over will help relieve the forum of stupid questions.

tacoridinhigh · 06-10-2009, 06:15 AM

Great info

WW_FIREFIGHTER · 06-10-2009, 06:22 AM

Hey speaking of trimming. Does any body have pictures of there front fender area? I took off my bumper yesterday and then re-installed it but the thin black plastic fender piece doesn't look like its in the right place? I just need to see a pic towards the front of the wheel where we all had to trim for 33"s.

Mine just looks a little bit off.

BBQ BOY · 06-10-2009, 06:36 AM

Thank you. I am about to buy a Tacoma and wanting to lift it but don't have tons of time to search for every little thing.

Dark Knight · 06-10-2009, 06:38 AM

great info.

Link to skyjacker Lift does not work, here is a link to my build with a Skyjacker 3" Lift
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/bui...t-build-3.html

gjbonner · 06-10-2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

tacoridinhighGreat info

X2

Lentsnh · 06-10-2009, 09:39 AM

Great info Brian.

People will like to have this and will be used ALOT

toku58 · 06-10-2009, 09:53 AM

Thanks guys! PM me if you have any DIY requests?

Lentsnh · 06-10-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toku58

Thanks guys! PM me if you have any DIY requests?

Will do

BBQ BOY · 06-10-2009, 12:12 PM

This should be a sticky.

Brunes · 06-10-2009, 01:24 PM

NIce work man- Well done!!

gonzo6up · 06-10-2009, 01:55 PM

this is great info especially since i am limited with time to search for all of these answers. I agree it should be a sticky!

tacomaman06 · 06-10-2009, 02:06 PM

thread is now sticky!!!

great write-up toku!!

SOSHeloPilot · 06-10-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toku58

First Of all let me go over some basic terminology for truck.

Coilover: A coilover refers to the front coil spring and shock assembly. They are built as one unit, unlike a spring and shock suspension which are 2 seperate parts.

Shock: A shock is an oil or gas filled piston unit that when installed are designed to resists quick or shocking movement.

UCA: Are the Upper Control Arms of your front IFS (Independent front suspension) Mainly responsible for the vertical alignment of the front spindles. (For the most part it is non- load bearing)

LCA: Are the Lower Control Arms of the front IFS. This is the part that will see most of the load in you front suspension. It works in unison with the UCA.

Add-A-Leaf Or commonly referred to as AAL's! these are additional springs that are excessively arched to provide additional lift or support to the rear of our trucks. (They maybe used in the front of some vehicles but NOT ours!)

Leaf Pack: Leaf packs are just that a replacement "set" of leaf springs designed to have a better spring rate, and in some cases add lift or additional load capacity.

Alignment I'm sure everyone has heard of alignment. Every car or turk need their alignment check periodically. Alignment is very important in determining the performance characteristics of a vehicle.

Caster: is the angle that your front tire are tilted in relation to the steering axis!

Camber: Camber is the angle that you tires are in relation to the vertical axis when viewed from the front of the vehicle.

Toe: Toe is the angle at which your front tire turn in or out in relationship to each other.

Here is a good link to help understand your alignment:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4

First off lifts!

There are several types of lifts offered for our trucks. We'll start with the least costly. I will touch on Spacer lift kits, Coil lift kits, and Coilover lift kits. Also I will try to provide links, as they are applicable.

Options for the front!

Bilstien 5100's This is a great affordable lift kit. These replacement shocks are great to add a few inches to the front of your Tacoma, it is adjustable and have a slightly better valving system than the stock shocks that come with the Tacoma's. (But please take note NO One recommends it to be used in conjunction with after market coils) This may result in damage of your suspension components.

Pro Basic kit from Toytec: $209.99
Spacer Lifts: These are spacers made primarily out of aluminum. They are installed on top of your coils and also on top of the strut plate.

There are spacers from Ready Lifts: http://www.readylift.com/

This is a link to how these lifts are installed in the front:
http://www.toyteclifts.com/PDFfiles/05install2.pdf
http://www.customtacos.com/tech/file...ctions05up.pdf (This write up is originally from a member at TS)
Also Skyjacker has a 3" lift kit:
http://www.4x4review.com/products/su...acker-taco.asp

OME coils lift kits from Toytec: $299.98
This kit comes with replacement coils for the front, 884 or 885's. These are longer replacement coils, which also come with a 1/2" Aluminum spacer. The Install will be basically the same as the spacer kit. (Link posted above)

Coilover lift kit: $1050.00 Free s/h
(DR Coilovers) Most common. Others are available such as Sway-A-way, Fabtech, All Pro, and Camburg to name a few?
These are the high end of the 3" lifts. Extremely easy to install, due to the fact they come already assembled. It is simply a matter of remove and replace. They are also very versatile, in that they are adjustable. Therefore can be adjusted to fit your needs.

Exclusive for 2wd
Allied spindles, these spindles will yield 4" lift for your 2wd Tacoma. They cannot be used on a 4x4.
http://amsuspensions.com/4_lift_spindle_2005_tacoma.htm

Coil spring rates

The spring rates for the OME and OEM are:

-OEM (factory) 550 lbs/in
-OME884 590 lbs/in 385mm
-OME885 590 lbs/in 395mm
-OME886 660 lbs/in 402mm

For comparison the here are a few more:

-SAW2.0 675 lbs/in
-DR (Icon) 650 lbs/in
-AllPro 650lbs/in

REAR Lifts options:

First off you have:
Lift blocks:
These are blocks of metal that are placed under you rear leaf packs, on top of your axles. The kit includes the lift blocks and longer U-bolts. This is the most basic of the rear lifts and adds NO additional benefits other than height.

Add-A-Leafs
This type of lift consists of an additional Leaf spring that has an increased arc. They added lift by increasing the curve of your rear stock spring pack. They also allow added load capacity for hauling.

This is the instructions for the AAL rear install:
http://www.toyteclifts.com/PDFfiles/...TIONS2%200.pdf

Leaf Packs:
This type of rear lift is the high end of rear lifts.
Consists of a new multiple spring pack. Provides lift, a smoother spring rate. May add or decrease carrying capacity depending on the spring characteristics.

This rear lift is also fairly simple to do since they come pre-assembled. Simply R&R.

These lifts can be found at:

http://www.toyteclifts.com/0507tacoc...07tacoliftkits

http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoma.htm

Here is a link to Alcan:
http://www.alcanspring.com/making.htm

Body Lift $325.95 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...scon/5603.html
This is a lift that is Achieved by adding spacers to the body mounting points. This lift essentially increases the distance between the frame and the cab. This lift requires other parts such as fuel line extension, bumper brackets, and larger fender skirts to hide the increased gap, between the fender and the frame. You will also need to extend the steering unit.

CT link basically cover same info:
http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?article=137

Upper Control "A" arms (UCA's)

UCA's are The A arms at the top of your Indipendant Front Suspension

I will cover 2 Brands Camburg, and Total Chaos. There are others like All Pro or DR, but since I have No first hand experience with these I'll let others chime in on them.

Camburg UCA's: from my experience, and from what Camburg has informed me about, were designed to give greater clearance to accommodate larger coil over coils. They are NOT designed to correct alignment issues, caused by the addition of a 3" lift.

Total Chaos: These are UCA's specifically designed to help correct the alignment issue caused by the addition of a 3" lift.

All Pro: Are also designed to correct Alignment issues.

Here are some links to read in reguards to UCA's.

Install:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171569.html
Non-sense reading:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t186179.html
Problems with Camburg
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171670.html
Comparison:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t173282.html

Wheels and tire:
(Thanks to MrGrimm)
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t184562.html

Wheel Spacers (If you would like to run your stock rims? I recommend these)
http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...dproduct=10887

Q&A links
Can you use your stock shocks with a coil lift?

YES! But remember with a 3" lift the stock shocks will only have about 1" of down travel.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t189189.html

Bilstein 5100: This lift is also at it's full extent it will have only about 1" of down travel.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t182621.html

Both of these lifts are limited by the length of the shock. Both will have a jarring sensation when traveling over bumps at speed.

OME makes longer shocks which are designed for a 3" lift. This will allow better articulation of your suspension. BUT! Remember with the increased travel you will need longer brake lines.

"possible issues"

-After you lift your truck, and find that at speed it wanders all over the road?
-You need a set of UCA's to correct you alignment.

-Remember that mostly everything you alter on your truck's suspension will have an affect on other components.

-Excessive wear on CV boots due to increased angle.
-You can install a differential drop.

-Rear drive line vibration or shudder.
-Carrier bearing drop. (IMHO not a good idea)
-Tom Woods one piece drive shaft. (So far this seems to be the only cure)

Tire rubbing:

Although the height is increased with a lift? The size of the wheel/fender opening remains the same.
So in actuality the stock 265's are the biggest tire that can articulate and clear through 98% of the suspensions range of movement.

The 285's is more for aesthetics and looks rather than serious offraoding.

If you choose to run 285's, with a 3" lift, and you want to do some serious offroading? Then you may need to cut away a portion of you front body mount, to allow the tire free movement while doing full turns.

But don't be mistaken with this set up you can still do some great offroading! You just may encounter some rubbing of your tires.

This Thread is meant as a starting point, or as a guideline. Things may vary in different situations, and individual results.

Please take everything I have stated with a "grain of salt" and decide for yourself!

Good Luck!

EDIT:
Here's a bit of additional information:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...7&postcount=28

Man ... that is one of the best threads that I have seen on any truck forum.

It has good basics for the beginner and mid-level and more advanced info in it.

All that info. in one place too.

Thanks for taking the time to post that info. with the links too.

SOS

PS ... great info for a "sticky" too.
.

toku58 · 06-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Thanks guys!
Would you guys like info on 6" lifts also? I could update the sticky.

EDIT::

I updated some info. some of the links were no longer working. (I wrote this over 2 yrs ago) So hopefully it's all good now.

I will periodically add info to the thread to try and keep it current.

ilg · 06-10-2009, 11:01 PM

Best post ever.

taco-mia · 06-21-2009, 06:13 PM

Well thank you for helping me to not be the person that asks all of the stupid questions. Great info, I can't wait to lift my truck!

ETAV8R · 06-21-2009, 11:36 PM

Great thread...now where is that money for 5100's? Where did I put it?

06-09-2009, 11:24 PM	#1
toku58 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2008, #9882 Location: HAWAII Gender: Male Posts: 443 4x4 Beast! 2006 Double Cab Automatic v6 Anything and everything!	Lifting you truck! Things you need to know. First Of all let me go over some basic terminology for truck. Coilover: A coilover refers to the front coil spring and shock assembly. They are built as one unit, unlike a spring and shock suspension which are 2 seperate parts. Shock: A shock is an oil or gas filled piston unit that when installed are designed to resists quick or shocking movement. UCA: Are the Upper Control Arms of your front IFS (Independent front suspension) Mainly responsible for the vertical alignment of the front spindles. (For the most part it is non- load bearing) LCA: Are the Lower Control Arms of the front IFS. This is the part that will see most of the load in you front suspension. It works in unison with the UCA. Add-A-Leaf Or commonly referred to as AAL's! these are additional springs that are excessively arched to provide additional lift or support to the rear of our trucks. (They maybe used in the front of some vehicles but NOT ours!) Leaf Pack: Leaf packs are just that a replacement "set" of leaf springs designed to have a better spring rate, and in some cases add lift or additional load capacity. Alignment I'm sure everyone has heard of alignment. Every car or turk need their alignment check periodically. Alignment is very important in determining the performance characteristics of a vehicle. Caster: is the angle that your front tire are tilted in relation to the steering axis! Camber: Camber is the angle that you tires are in relation to the vertical axis when viewed from the front of the vehicle. Toe: Toe is the angle at which your front tire turn in or out in relationship to each other. Here is a good link to help understand your alignment: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4 First off lifts! There are several types of lifts offered for our trucks. We'll start with the least costly. I will touch on Spacer lift kits, Coil lift kits, and Coilover lift kits. Also I will try to provide links, as they are applicable. Options for the front! Bilstien 5100's This is a great affordable lift kit. These replacement shocks are great to add a few inches to the front of your Tacoma, it is adjustable and have a slightly better valving system than the stock shocks that come with the Tacoma's. (But please take note NO One recommends it to be used in conjunction with after market coils) This may result in damage of your suspension components. Adjustment heights 1 - 0" 2 - 0.85" 3 - 1.75" 4 - 2.5" _______ Pro Basic kit from Toytec: $209.99 Spacer Lifts: These are spacers made primarily out of aluminum. They are installed on top of your coils and also on top of the strut plate. There are spacers from Ready Lifts: http://www.readylift.com/ This is a link to how these lifts are installed in the front: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...mtrdsport.html OME coils lift kits from Toytec: $299.98 This kit comes with replacement coils for the front, 884 or 885's. These are longer replacement coils, which also come with a 1/2" Aluminum spacer. The Install will be basically the same as the spacer kit. (Link posted above) Coilover lift kit: $1050.00 Free s/h (DR Coilovers) Most common. Others are available such as Sway-A-way, Fabtech, All Pro, and Camburg to name a few? These are the high end of the 3" lifts. Extremely easy to install, due to the fact they come already assembled. It is simply a matter of remove and replace. They are also very versatile, in that they are adjustable. Therefore can be adjusted to fit your needs. Exclusive for 2wd Camburg spindles, these spindles will yield 4" lift for your 2wd Tacoma. They cannot be used on a 4x4. http://www.camburg.com/PDF/tacoma%20spindle%20info.pdf Total Chaos Spindles: http://www.chaosfab.com/toyaccess_05taco.html Coil spring rates The spring rates for the OME and OEM are: -OEM (factory) 550 lbs/in -OME884 590 lbs/in 385mm -OME885 590 lbs/in 395mm -OME886 660 lbs/in 402mm For comparison the here are a few more: -SAW2.0 675 lbs/in -DR (Icon) 650 lbs/in -AllPro 650lbs/in REAR Lifts options: First off you have: Lift blocks: These are blocks of metal that are placed under you rear leaf packs, on top of your axles. The kit includes the lift blocks and longer U-bolts. This is the most basic of the rear lifts and adds NO additional benefits other than height. Add-A-Leafs This type of lift consists of an additional Leaf spring that has an increased arc. They added lift by increasing the curve of your rear stock spring pack. They also allow added load capacity for hauling. This is the instructions for the AAL rear install: http://www.toyteclifts.com/PDFfiles/...TIONS2%200.pdf Leaf Packs: This type of rear lift is the high end of rear lifts. Consists of a new multiple spring pack. Provides lift, a smoother spring rate. May add or decrease carrying capacity depending on the spring characteristics. This rear lift is also fairly simple to do since they come pre-assembled. Simply R&R. These lifts can be found at: http://www.toyteclifts.com/0507tacoc...07tacoliftkits http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoma.htm Here is a link to Alcan: http://www.alcanspring.com/making.htm Body Lift $325.95 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...scon/5603.html This is a lift that is Achieved by adding spacers to the body mounting points. This lift essentially increases the distance between the frame and the cab. This lift requires other parts such as fuel line extension, bumper brackets, and larger fender skirts to hide the increased gap, between the fender and the frame. You will also need to extend the steering unit. CT link basically cover same info: http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?article=137 Upper Control "A" arms (UCA's) UCA's are The A arms at the top of your Indipendant Front Suspension I will cover 2 Brands Camburg, and Total Chaos. There are others like All Pro or DR, but since I have No first hand experience with these I'll let others chime in on them. Camburg UCA's: from my experience, and from what Camburg has informed me about, were designed to give greater clearance to accommodate larger coil over coils. They are NOT designed to correct alignment issues, caused by the addition of a 3" lift. Total Chaos: These are UCA's specifically designed to help correct the alignment issue caused by the addition of a 3" lift. ~~Total Chaos~~ also makes a Heim joint UCA's designed to be used with 6" DB lifts. All Pro: Are also designed to correct Alignment issues. Light Racing These UCA's are a new design, they allow more range of adjustment. Works well with 3" and 6" lifts. Here are some links to read in reguards to UCA's. Install: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171569.html Problems with Camburg http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171670.html Comparison: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t173282.html Wheels and tire: (Thanks to MrGrimm) http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t184562.html Wheel Spacers (If you would like to run your stock rims? I recommend these) http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...dproduct=10887 Q&A links Can you use your stock shocks with a coil lift? YES! But remember with a 3" lift the stock shocks will only have about 1" of down travel. http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t189189.html Bilstein 5100: This lift is also at it's full extent it will have only about 1" of down travel. Both of these lifts are limited by the length of the shock. Both will have a jarring sensation when traveling over bumps at speed. OME makes longer shocks which are designed for a 3" lift. This will allow better articulation of your suspension. BUT! Remember with the increased travel you will need longer brake lines. "possible issues" -After you lift your truck, and find that at speed it wanders all over the road? -You need a set of UCA's to correct you alignment. -Remember that mostly everything you alter on your truck's suspension will have an affect on other components. -Excessive wear on CV boots due to increased angle. -You can install a differential drop. -Rear drive line vibration or shudder. -Carrier bearing drop. (IMHO not a good idea) -Tom Woods one piece drive shaft. (So far this seems to be the only cure) Tire rubbing: Although the height is increased with a lift? The size of the wheel/fender opening remains the same. So in actuality the stock 265's are the biggest tire that can articulate and clear through 98% of the suspensions range of movement. The 285's is more for aesthetics and looks rather than serious offraoding. If you choose to run 285's, with a 3" lift, and you want to do some serious offroading? Then you may need to cut away a portion of you front body mount, to allow the tire free movement while doing full turns. But don't be mistaken with this set up you can still do some great offroading! You just may encounter some rubbing of your tires. Here is some info on Achieving proper alignment, and the importance of UCA's: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...alignment.html This Thread is meant as a starting point, or as a guideline. Things may vary in different situations, and individual results. Please take everything I have stated with a "grain of salt" and decide for yourself! Good Luck! EDIT: Here's a bit of additional information: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...7&postcount=28 __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2435980

06-09-2009, 11:41 PM	#2
TacoGuy05 Money Over Bitches Joined: Jan 2009, #12438 Location: TX Age: 18 Gender: Guy Posts: 2,056 05 Taco Double Cab Automatic V6 4.0 285\70-17 BFGoodrich KM2's, 17x8 Pro Comp 7089, 3" Revtech Lift, Flowmaster 40 Exhaust, Viper Alarm, 5% Tint All Around, Painted Grille,BHLM, TRD 3rd Brake Light Sticker, TRD Emblems, Blacked out Badges, Hella 500s, Stant Locking Gas Cap.	niceeee thread __________________ GET money

06-10-2009, 03:45 AM	#3
briangp Certified FLIR Driver Joined: Apr 2009, #16011 Location: Cape Cod, MA Gender: Dude Posts: 1,502 Radiant Red Rules :) 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 1GR-FE 33 BFG KM2s 3" Level kit Ultra Goliath 17x8 Premier Deck with JBL/JL system Foglight Mod	Thanks for pretty much being a badass bro.... hopefully bringing some of these stickies over will help relieve the forum of stupid questions. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3309951 sig by fletch aka -Yeah! There's a TSB for that! A new Tundra?

06-10-2009, 06:15 AM	#4
tacoridinhigh Pavement Pounder Extraordinaire Name: Dom Joined: May 2009, #17607 Location: 505 New Mexico Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 601 07 4x4 E-locked 2007 Access Cab Manual 1GR - 4.0L V6 Just check my build.	Great info __________________ My build: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/bui...d-machine.html

06-10-2009, 06:22 AM	#5
WW_FIREFIGHTER Lieutenant Dan. Name: Danny Joined: Nov 2008, #10651 Location: Nevada, and no, "NOT" Las Vegas! Gender: Guy Posts: 3,752 06' SW TRD Sport 4x4 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 Tacoma World July 09' Truck of the Month! =>	Hey speaking of trimming. Does any body have pictures of there front fender area? I took off my bumper yesterday and then re-installed it but the thin black plastic fender piece doesn't look like its in the right place? I just need to see a pic towards the front of the wheel where we all had to trim for 33"s. Mine just looks a little bit off. __________________ Sig by *Delmarva* July 09' TOTM

06-10-2009, 06:36 AM	#6
BBQ BOY Senior Member Joined: Feb 2009, #13691 Gender: Male Posts: 110	Thank you. I am about to buy a Tacoma and wanting to lift it but don't have tons of time to search for every little thing.

06-10-2009, 06:38 AM	#7
Dark Knight 4x4 in uppercase = $x$ Name: Bruce Wayne of coarse.. Joined: Jul 2008, #8006 Location: Tennessee Mountains Gender: Male Posts: 3,680 Black 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Deleted N-Fab Light Bar, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Piaa 510 Ion Crystal Fog Lights, Yakima Rack, Extang Solid Fold Tonneau, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, VIAIR OBA, Shrockworks Rock Sliders	great info. Link to skyjacker Lift does not work, here is a link to my build with a Skyjacker 3" Lift http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/bui...t-build-3.html __________________ 84 pickup 4x4 \| need Aussie locker (toyota 8") 05 Tacoma

06-10-2009, 09:39 AM	#9
Lentsnh Saving up for Long Travel Name: Lents Joined: Nov 2008, #10953 Location: Auburn, AL Age: 16 Gender: Male Posts: 7,295 06 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x2 2006 Access Cab Automatic V6 Scanguage II, DrawTite II, Shorty Antenna, TW sticker, MONSTER energy sticker, FLM mod, Lock beep mod, TG mod, Blacked out emblems, Toyo Open Country ATs, Billy 5100s+ AAL= 3" lift, Satoshi (deep dish), BHLM, CB Radio w/ Firestik,	Great info Brian. People will like to have this and will be used ALOT __________________ My Build: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/builds/37540-lentsnhs-build.html (UPDATED)

06-10-2009, 09:53 AM	#10
toku58 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2008, #9882 Location: HAWAII Gender: Male Posts: 443 4x4 Beast! 2006 Double Cab Automatic v6 Anything and everything!	Thanks guys! PM me if you have any DIY requests? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2435980

06-10-2009, 12:12 PM	#12
BBQ BOY Senior Member Joined: Feb 2009, #13691 Gender: Male Posts: 110	This should be a sticky.

06-10-2009, 01:24 PM	#13
Brunes Pray for CG1705 and the Cobra Crew Name: Mark Joined: May 2008, #7011 Location: Panhandle, Florida Age: 25 Gender: Dude Posts: 5,800 08 Red/Graphite and Black 2008 Access Cab Manual 1GR-FE: 4L V6 Debadge, Tint, LiteRider Tonneau with Locker Handle, 5 Pc Black Billet Grill, Black Rims, IPod Adapter, Red and Black Wet Okole Seats, Black Weathertechs. 885's and TC UCAs and Wheelers 3 pack AAL with OME Shocks and extended brake lines. Revenge Fabrication 82" Kickout sliders	NIce work man- Well done!! __________________ Namaste Brunes

06-10-2009, 01:55 PM	#14
gonzo6up Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009, #12240 Location: Middle Tn Gender: Guy Posts: 335 09 tacoma SR5 4x4 sport 2009 Double Cab Manual 4.0 V6 tint/ vent visors/ seatbelt chime mod/ DTRL Mod	this is great info especially since i am limited with time to search for all of these answers. I agree it should be a sticky!

06-10-2009, 02:06 PM	#15
tacomaman06 Carolina Alliance: Redneck Division Name: Will Joined: May 2007, #1475 Location: York,South Carolina Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 22,196 04 trd tacoma 4x4 v6 double cab 2004 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 v6 vent visors,deck plate mod, gray wire mod, black steelies and emblems, mag-lite mod, wheelers/ome suspension, stainless brake lines,blacked out bumpers(bedliner),dynomax super turbo muffler,cabelas mossy oak seat covers ans camo steering wheel cover,brush guard, hella 500(x4)custom built(by me) hitch hauler),budbuilt skids,revenge-fab sliders,inchworm locker skid,cobra cb,wilson 3 ft antenna,hi-lift jack(tool box mounted) painted stock wheels....still to come.... afe pro dry s filter..........plus many,many more!!	thread is now sticky!!! great write-up toku!! __________________ i am WILL--my ride=04 tacoma trd 4x4 double cab, v6, auto,deck plate mod, grey wire mod, billy 5100's all the way around,black low-pro uws toolbox, black steelies,blacked out emblems, mag light mod,wheelers/alcan springs, ome 881 coils, braided stainless brake lines, polyurethane bushings,dynomax super turbo/slash cut tip-blacked out,chrome deleted bumpers via herculiner bed liner,color matched bedlinered tailgate, camo seat covers,sockmonkey decals,husky floor liners, hunter brush guard, 4 hella 500's(2 spotlight/2fog light),budbuilt skid plates,inchworm e-locker skid,revenge-fab sliders,cobra cb/loudspeaker PA, pioneer headunit/infinity reference components/2ways......plenty more still to come!!! http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa269/tacomaman06/ signature by piercedtiger www.myspace.com/goodolboy1979

06-10-2009, 06:43 PM	#17
toku58 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2008, #9882 Location: HAWAII Gender: Male Posts: 443 4x4 Beast! 2006 Double Cab Automatic v6 Anything and everything!	Thanks guys! Would you guys like info on 6" lifts also? I could update the sticky. EDIT:: I updated some info. some of the links were no longer working. (I wrote this over 2 yrs ago) So hopefully it's all good now. I will periodically add info to the thread to try and keep it current. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2435980

06-10-2009, 11:01 PM	#18
ilg VanCity Taco. Joined: May 2009, #16835 Location: BC, Canada Age: 25 Gender: Male Posts: 150 09 4x4 TRD O/R V6 6-Spd MagGray 2009 Access Cab Manual 4.0L V6 Stock :(	Best post ever. __________________

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