Uhhh....yeah. VSC / Auto LSD question(s).

Jon M · 07-01-2009, 09:38 PM

Vehicle: 09 Taco 4x4, TRD Sport

Let me get this straight, if I push the "VSC OFF" button, I turn *ON* the Auto LSD? Therefore, the red "AUTO LSD" light comes on as well as the "car that's sliding" light (when stopped or going slow). This means that the Auto LSD is *ACTIVE* and that if one wheel starts to slip on gravel as I floor it through a curve, the truck basically slams on the brakes.

Assuming that's all correct, if I don't push that button...and floor it through said curve, basically the same thing will happen..????

*BUT*....if the truck is stopped and I hold the "VSC OFF" button for 3 seconds, I turn everything off??

I guess...what I'm wondering, in the end, is how do I turn off *EVERYTHING* so that the truck behaves without ANY assistance??

yeah...

jhodge83 · 07-01-2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon M

Vehicle: 09 Taco 4x4, TRD Sport

Let me get this straight, if I push the "VSC OFF" button, I turn *ON* the Auto LSD? Therefore, the red "AUTO LSD" light comes on as well as the "car that's sliding" light (when stopped or going slow). This means that the Auto LSD is *ACTIVE* and that if one wheel starts to slip on gravel as I floor it through a curve, the truck basically slams on the brakes.

Assuming that's all correct, if I don't push that button...and floor it through said curve, basically the same thing will happen..????

*BUT*....if the truck is stopped and I hold the "VSC OFF" button for 3 seconds, I turn everything off??

I guess...what I'm wondering, in the end, is how do I turn off *EVERYTHING* so that the truck behaves without ANY assistance??

yeah...

turn the key to off....lol

i think that if u press and hold like ur talking, ur cutting off VSC and keeping the autoLSD off too. the press once will turn the autoLSD on and the VSC off until you reach 30-35mph, then the VSC turns back on...or atleast what i can tell from playing

vwguy60 · 07-01-2009, 09:57 PM

According to the manual which doesn't seem very clear, holding the VSC button for more than 3 seconds turns it off and the "VSC OFF" indicator turns on. You have to push the button again to turn it on, it will not reactivate until you push the button again.

When you push the button and the AUTO LSD light comes on it will reactivate when the vehicle speed increases.

I want to turn mine off too, I guess I will do the 3 second thing. Hopefully it turns the damn thing off.

aaronk · 07-01-2009, 10:20 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one confused about all the traction control options on the 09's!! I read the manual and still don't understand the alphabet soup worth of features that it's got.

Demoncleaner · 07-02-2009, 06:34 AM

I gave my buddy's 09 4x4 a good test on snow this past winter. VSC definitely safens her up, but puts the kabosh on shenanigans.

2wd
-Default VSC & TRAC on.
-One button push, TRAC off now AUTO-LSD on. VSC Still on.
-Stop, hold button forever (ok seemed like 6-7 seconds) 'beep' AUTO-LSD on, but VSC is off, time for doughnuts.

4hi, trying to remember, but believe default was VSC on, don't think there is TRAC in 4wd.
Push button, VSC off. 4x4 doughnuts

4lo really can't remember

FL4x4Taco · 07-02-2009, 06:38 AM

I'm confused a Fug on my '09 too dude. I just want to drive my truck the way I see fit, end of story. I've hit the traction button, which I believe turns ON the auto lsd up to like 35mph. I tried going around a corner like Bo Duke... piece of shit over rode me. Not sure how to have fun in this truck. I'm about to start pulling fuses to this shit. All I wanted was the ABS & E-Locker... and ABS was iffy.

Demoncleaner · 07-02-2009, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL4x4Taco

I'm confused a Fug on my '09 too dude. I just want to drive my truck the way I see fit, end of story. I've hit the traction button, which I believe turns ON the auto lsd up to like 35mph. I tried going around a corner like Bo Duke... piece of shit over rode me. Not sure how to have fun in this truck. I'm about to start pulling fuses to this shit. All I wanted was the ABS & E-Locker... and ABS was iffy.

Time to trade down for a 05-08! Or stop and hold button for long time, beep, be free to powerslide.

Dark Knight · 07-02-2009, 06:47 AM

sounds like yall got too many buttons

I love how my 05 has none of that mess, but the auto lsd would be cool to have. e brake lsd is a good substitute though. good luck with the buttons fellas....

FL4x4Taco · 07-02-2009, 08:50 AM

So which button do I hold down to powerslide?

jhodge83 · 07-02-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL4x4Taco

So which button do I hold down to powerslide?

hold down the VSC off button until the VSC off light comes on, but the auto LSD doesnt....i think

luk8272 · 07-02-2009, 09:07 AM

Whew. Thats a lot of stuff to try and remember. Make notes in your book once you figure it out.

JeffRock · 07-02-2009, 09:14 AM

Yeah, It really sucked a week after I got my truck in Feb. I pulled into the work parking lot with just a covering of snow.. I went to go sideways and all these lights and beeps started going off, And the brakes started making funny noises.....
It broke my heart....

It sucked...

BeachBoy · 07-02-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon M

I guess...what I'm wondering, in the end, is how do I turn off *EVERYTHING* so that the truck behaves without ANY assistance??

Impossible without hacking your wires.

also, the VSC will kick on or off depending on the speed you go, that'S why sometimes the red VSC off will be lit and other times it won't. I think the limit is like 15mph.

BeachBoy · 07-02-2009, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL4x4Taco

So which button do I hold down to powerslide?

You will only pwoerslide up to a certain wheel speed, that is too low to really pwoerslide. You have to hack your system to get the VSC off all the times

FJ do it all the time since they had this system since 1997

Jon M · 07-02-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBoy

Impossible without hacking your wires.

I'm going to have to disagree with you slightly here.

I went out today to do a little "investigating".

Basically, truck was started and in Park, I held the "VSC OFF" button for a few seconds and the "Car is sliding around" light came on. The red "AUTO LSD" light stayed off.

I was all, "Okay. Sweet. I must have turned off the VSC and the LSD."

I hit some gravel roads and my ass was sliding around like hell with NO assistance, dinging, warning, lights coming on or anything.

So yeah, doing that leaves the diff open and turns off all the assistance. I was hitting curves going like 50mph and then stomping on the gas on my way out. *wheel spin!*

Everything was off.

WORD.

FL4x4Taco · 07-02-2009, 10:33 AM

I can see myself hacking.... I really hate all these nanny items. Let's do a break down... :

-E-locker. Only usable in 4 LO. Need to do the mod so I can use it in 2wd & 4HI.

-AutoLSD/Traction control: uses traction control to create a LSD type traction I' guessing. Kicks off above 35mph.

-VSC. this is to keep you in a straight line, b/c the government doesn't think you're a big enough boy to drive a car. From what I read/gather you can turn it off and do a 15mph "shananagan". Totally Gay.

-Down hill assist. Who the heck cares about this...

-Atrac? I think it's a 4wd traction control.

Entirely to much crap-O-La. I'll get my permission slip signed by my mommy so big brother will let me drive my power wheels the way I intend.

Come to think about it. I think we should make this a Sticky Tech Tip item. List all the systems and info about them as possible.

luk8272 · 07-02-2009, 11:24 AM

Thats a good idea. Add to that the different Lsd and Auto Lsd for the tacomas since it changed up and the pre 09 models are different.

Demoncleaner · 07-02-2009, 11:45 AM

To sum it up, time to hit the trail w/ your 4x4!

If you have a 05-08. Choose 2wd, 4hi, 4lo.
SR5 open rear diff, Sport Mech LSD diff always 'on', Off-road can lock diff in 4lo, also DAC and HAC buttons.

If you have a 2009. All in 2wd have VSC/TRAC default. Or you can push the button and get a e-LSD, or you can stop, hold the button to shut off VSC. In 4wd you have vsc on, push button to shut it off. No Auto-LSD fuction like in 2wd. 4lo disables VSC? whats the button do?
TRD Offroad push the button for locker in 4lo, then can push button for A-trac when in 4lo. Locker disables VSC and ABS. You also have DAC push that button going down a hill. Think HAC button is gone, damn.

After refering to your traction cheat sheet taped to the dash, choose your setting, your ready to hit the trail, oh wait also you have to push the RSCA button to shut off airbags.

Toyota, oh what a feeling!

viperstd · 07-02-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demoncleaner

To sum it up, time to hit the trail w/ your 4x4!

If you have a 05-08. Choose 2wd, 4hi, 4lo.
SR5 open rear diff, Sport Mech LSD diff always 'on', Off-road can lock diff in 4lo, also DAC and HAC buttons.

If you have a 2009. All in 2wd have VSC/TRAC default. Or you can push the button and get a e-LSD, or you can stop, hold the button to shut off VSC. In 4wd you have vsc on, push button to shut it off. No Auto-LSD fuction like in 2wd. 4lo disables VSC? whats the button do?
TRD Offroad push the button for locker in 4lo, then can push button for A-trac when in 4lo. Locker disables VSC and ABS. You also have DAC push that button going down a hill. Think HAC button is gone, damn.

After refering to your traction cheat sheet taped to the dash, choose your setting, your ready to hit the trail, oh wait also you have to push the RSCA button to shut off airbags.

Toyota, oh what a feeling!

Damn, I need a knee board, PCL, and pre-wheeling brief before hitting the trail.

BeachBoy · 07-02-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon M

I'm going to have to disagree with you slightly here.

I went out today to do a little "investigating".

Basically, truck was started and in Park, I held the "VSC OFF" button for a few seconds and the "Car is sliding around" light came on. The red "AUTO LSD" light stayed off.

I was all, "Okay. Sweet. I must have turned off the VSC and the LSD."

I hit some gravel roads and my ass was sliding around like hell with NO assistance, dinging, warning, lights coming on or anything.

So yeah, doing that leaves the diff open and turns off all the assistance. I was hitting curves going like 50mph and then stomping on the gas on my way out. *wheel spin!*

Everything was off.

WORD.

You did not have everything off (boith VSC and TRAC). Read your owner's manual.

It's not because you can slide the rear that everything is off.

07-01-2009, 09:38 PM	#1
Jon M Wax nostalgic. Joined: Jun 2009, #18781 Location: SE MinneSNOWta Gender: Male Posts: 22 09 Tacoma SR5 TRD Sport w / Towing Pkg 2009 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6	Uhhh....yeah. VSC / Auto LSD question(s). Vehicle: 09 Taco 4x4, TRD Sport Let me get this straight, if I push the "VSC OFF" button, I turn ON the Auto LSD? Therefore, the red "AUTO LSD" light comes on as well as the "car that's sliding" light (when stopped or going slow). This means that the Auto LSD is ACTIVE and that if one wheel starts to slip on gravel as I floor it through a curve, the truck basically slams on the brakes. Assuming that's all correct, if I don't push that button...and floor it through said curve, basically the same thing will happen..???? BUT....if the truck is stopped and I hold the "VSC OFF" button for 3 seconds, I turn everything off?? I guess...what I'm wondering, in the end, is how do I turn off EVERYTHING so that the truck behaves without ANY assistance?? yeah... __________________

07-02-2009, 06:38 AM	#6
FL4x4Taco Senior Member Joined: May 2009, #17595 Gender: Male Posts: 333	I'm confused a Fug on my '09 too dude. I just want to drive my truck the way I see fit, end of story. I've hit the traction button, which I believe turns ON the auto lsd up to like 35mph. I tried going around a corner like Bo Duke... piece of shit over rode me. Not sure how to have fun in this truck. I'm about to start pulling fuses to this shit. All I wanted was the ABS & E-Locker... and ABS was iffy. __________________ 2009 DC/SB SR5 4x4, 4.0, Auto, TRD Offroad. Raised Rear Diff Vent, Trailer Connector relocated to bumper, Leaf Spring TSB, Trimmed Mud flaps, Tailgate Lock Clamp, WeatherTech Floor Liners, Fog Light mod Etc.

07-02-2009, 06:47 AM	#8
Dark Knight 4x4 in uppercase = $x$ Name: Bruce Wayne of coarse.. Joined: Jul 2008, #8006 Location: Tennessee Mountains Gender: Male Posts: 3,594 Black 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Deleted N-Fab Light Bar, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Piaa 510 Ion Crystal Fog Lights, Yakima Rack, Extang Solid Fold Tonneau, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, VIAIR OBA, Shrockworks Rock Sliders	sounds like yall got too many buttons I love how my 05 has none of that mess, but the auto lsd would be cool to have. e brake lsd is a good substitute though. good luck with the buttons fellas.... __________________ 84 pickup 4x4 \| Looking for Top Shift gear drive T-Case 05 Tacoma

07-02-2009, 08:50 AM	#9
FL4x4Taco Senior Member Joined: May 2009, #17595 Gender: Male Posts: 333	So which button do I hold down to powerslide? __________________ 2009 DC/SB SR5 4x4, 4.0, Auto, TRD Offroad. Raised Rear Diff Vent, Trailer Connector relocated to bumper, Leaf Spring TSB, Trimmed Mud flaps, Tailgate Lock Clamp, WeatherTech Floor Liners, Fog Light mod Etc.

07-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#11
luk8272 My 2 kids Name: Lucas Joined: Feb 2008, #4929 Location: Kaplan, Louisiana Age: 27 Gender: Guy Posts: 3,727 07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Bilstein shocks, Toytec 3" lift, Debadged, Billet Grille, 17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, BFG 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Prodry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k HID heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders Painted in shed. Bed Cover or Cap? and Exhaust!	Whew. Thats a lot of stuff to try and remember. Make notes in your book once you figure it out. __________________ Arkansas Superlift Park 4/10/09 Big Easley Run 5/17/09 Windrock Coal Creek OHV 6/20/09 Louisiana members

07-01-2009, 09:57 PM	#3
vwguy60 Member Joined: Mar 2009, #14465 Location: Southern California Gender: Male Posts: 91 2009 TRD Sport DC LB 2009 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 Toytec Ultimate Lift Kit, TC ucas, TRD CAI, powder coated OEM tube steps, powder coated TRD skid plate.	According to the manual which doesn't seem very clear, holding the VSC button for more than 3 seconds turns it off and the "VSC OFF" indicator turns on. You have to push the button again to turn it on, it will not reactivate until you push the button again. When you push the button and the AUTO LSD light comes on it will reactivate when the vehicle speed increases. I want to turn mine off too, I guess I will do the 3 second thing. Hopefully it turns the damn thing off.

07-01-2009, 10:20 PM	#4
aaronk Senior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5180 Gender: Male Posts: 160 2009 Dbl Cab V6 TRD 2008 Access Cab Manual 4.0L V6	I'm glad I'm not the only one confused about all the traction control options on the 09's!! I read the manual and still don't understand the alphabet soup worth of features that it's got.

07-02-2009, 06:34 AM	#5
Demoncleaner Senior Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4065 Location: Upstate NY Gender: Male Posts: 411 05 Dcab 6spd 4x4 TRD Sport w/Tow 2005 Double Cab Manual 4.0 v6 TRD exhaust Homemade bed mat & bed extender, front Drings, Short clutch throw, Summer: Stock 17's Winter: Blizzaks on 16' black steelies	I gave my buddy's 09 4x4 a good test on snow this past winter. VSC definitely safens her up, but puts the kabosh on shenanigans. 2wd -Default VSC & TRAC on. -One button push, TRAC off now AUTO-LSD on. VSC Still on. -Stop, hold button forever (ok seemed like 6-7 seconds) 'beep' AUTO-LSD on, but VSC is off, time for doughnuts. 4hi, trying to remember, but believe default was VSC on, don't think there is TRAC in 4wd. Push button, VSC off. 4x4 doughnuts 4lo really can't remember

07-02-2009, 09:14 AM	#12
JeffRock Senior Member Joined: Mar 2009, #14910 Location: Capital region, NY Age: 35 Gender: Male Posts: 732 09 Tacoma accesscab 4x4 SR5 2.7L Access Cab Manual Toyota all weather floor mats. Mag light that clunks around in the jack compartment. Dog hair. Dog drool on the windows.	Yeah, It really sucked a week after I got my truck in Feb. I pulled into the work parking lot with just a covering of snow.. I went to go sideways and all these lights and beeps started going off, And the brakes started making funny noises..... It broke my heart.... It sucked... __________________ I fly the U.S. flag, Not for the government, But for the people. The people who gave their last breath to make sure it never touches the ground!

07-02-2009, 10:33 AM	#16
FL4x4Taco Senior Member Joined: May 2009, #17595 Gender: Male Posts: 333	I can see myself hacking.... I really hate all these nanny items. Let's do a break down... : -E-locker. Only usable in 4 LO. Need to do the mod so I can use it in 2wd & 4HI. -AutoLSD/Traction control: uses traction control to create a LSD type traction I' guessing. Kicks off above 35mph. -VSC. this is to keep you in a straight line, b/c the government doesn't think you're a big enough boy to drive a car. From what I read/gather you can turn it off and do a 15mph "shananagan". Totally Gay. -Down hill assist. Who the heck cares about this... -Atrac? I think it's a 4wd traction control. Entirely to much crap-O-La. I'll get my permission slip signed by my mommy so big brother will let me drive my power wheels the way I intend. Come to think about it. I think we should make this a Sticky Tech Tip item. List all the systems and info about them as possible. __________________ 2009 DC/SB SR5 4x4, 4.0, Auto, TRD Offroad. Raised Rear Diff Vent, Trailer Connector relocated to bumper, Leaf Spring TSB, Trimmed Mud flaps, Tailgate Lock Clamp, WeatherTech Floor Liners, Fog Light mod Etc.

07-02-2009, 11:24 AM	#17
luk8272 My 2 kids Name: Lucas Joined: Feb 2008, #4929 Location: Kaplan, Louisiana Age: 27 Gender: Guy Posts: 3,727 07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Bilstein shocks, Toytec 3" lift, Debadged, Billet Grille, 17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, BFG 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Prodry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k HID heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders Painted in shed. Bed Cover or Cap? and Exhaust!	Thats a good idea. Add to that the different Lsd and Auto Lsd for the tacomas since it changed up and the pre 09 models are different. __________________ Arkansas Superlift Park 4/10/09 Big Easley Run 5/17/09 Windrock Coal Creek OHV 6/20/09 Louisiana members

07-02-2009, 11:45 AM	#18
Demoncleaner Senior Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4065 Location: Upstate NY Gender: Male Posts: 411 05 Dcab 6spd 4x4 TRD Sport w/Tow 2005 Double Cab Manual 4.0 v6 TRD exhaust Homemade bed mat & bed extender, front Drings, Short clutch throw, Summer: Stock 17's Winter: Blizzaks on 16' black steelies	To sum it up, time to hit the trail w/ your 4x4! If you have a 05-08. Choose 2wd, 4hi, 4lo. SR5 open rear diff, Sport Mech LSD diff always 'on', Off-road can lock diff in 4lo, also DAC and HAC buttons. If you have a 2009. All in 2wd have VSC/TRAC default. Or you can push the button and get a e-LSD, or you can stop, hold the button to shut off VSC. In 4wd you have vsc on, push button to shut it off. No Auto-LSD fuction like in 2wd. 4lo disables VSC? whats the button do? TRD Offroad push the button for locker in 4lo, then can push button for A-trac when in 4lo. Locker disables VSC and ABS. You also have DAC push that button going down a hill. Think HAC button is gone, damn. After refering to your traction cheat sheet taped to the dash, choose your setting, your ready to hit the trail, oh wait also you have to push the RSCA button to shut off airbags. Toyota, oh what a feeling!

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