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Old 12-03-2007, 05:02 PM   #1
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Rear leaf tsb completed

so i got my rear leaf tsb done today i just picked up the truck..it looks good the rear is higher than before and the tech said to me "the trucks going to ride harder, you will feel more bumps then before" but guess what i didnt notice a diffrence its still rides more like a car then a pickup truck .....but what i did notice is that the driver side has 3 leafs and the passenger side has 4....i can tell they replaced both sides cause its nice and clean and its got all the factory stickers...does anyone know if this is normal...i hope so....
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so i got my rear leaf tsb done today i just picked up the truck..it looks good the rear is higher than before and the tech said to me "the trucks going to ride harder, you will feel more bumps then before" but guess what i didnt notice a diffrence its still rides more like a car then a pickup truck .....but what i did notice is that the driver side has 3 leafs and the passenger side has 4....i can tell they replaced both sides cause its nice and clean and its got all the factory stickers...does anyone know if this is normal...i hope so....
This doesn't sound normal.
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:17 PM   #3
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This doesn't sound normal.
anyone out there with the tsb done...can u verify???
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:46 PM   #4
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it should be 4 leafs in both...
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should be 4 on both sides, take it back. they tried to do that with my truck.
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anyone out there with the tsb done...can u verify???
Yep our 2007 Tacoma has 4 leafs on both sides after the TSB.
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:16 PM   #7
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anyone out there with the tsb done...can u verify???
dood i have a 4pack on both sides....you'd better get a gang of free stuff because of this
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:33 PM   #8
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okay guys ..thanks alot for the help i will be back at the dealer tomorrow speaking to the service manager cause this is bull s***....
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okay guys ..thanks alot for the help i will be back at the dealer tomorrow speaking to the service manager cause this is bull s***....
yea it is...demand 15 complete sets of all of the OEM tacoma accessories, minus the bugshields, and then we'll all pay for our own shipping so you can disperse them throughout the alliance
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:52 PM   #10
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or, you could always wreck the truck, and sue toyota cause they released a truck that was unfit and unsafe to drive!

there is no way you should have two different springs that will have two different spring rates on them!
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either way you go, that needs to get taken care of bro and so do you, the dealer f'ed up something fierce
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:39 PM   #12
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There was talk a while back that some boxes were labled correctly, but the parts in the box were the wrong ones, as well as some dealers just flat out ordering the wrong parts. Look to see if the correct U-bolt was used with the wrong spring; it should have about 3/4" threads protruding out where the 4 pack should have about 3/8" or so. If they have the long U-bolts and a 3 pack, then the chance are good that the springs were boxed wrong. You are about the 4th person I have heard of having a 3 and a 4 pack. if htey are boxed wrong, don't blame the dealer, as they arte just following the TSB by matching numbers. Some vehicles in the past(few) did have an additional leaf in one side, and some (quite a few) have a different leaf in one or more positions in the pack on one side versus the other. The Tacoma's have one front coil spring longer on one side versus the other, but the difference between the 3 and 4 leaf pack is quite a bit of difference, but no more unsafe than the driver and a full tank of gas being on the same side, which is also quite a bit of difference.
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ahh i see...that all makes sense too
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Some vehicles in the past(few) did have an additional leaf in one side, and some (quite a few) have a different leaf in one or more positions in the pack on one side versus the other. The Tacoma's have one front coil spring longer on one side versus the other.
The front coils do have two different weight ratings...but I've never heard of any tacomas having irregular leaf counts from side to side from the factory.

The fact that the Toyota techs installed a 3 leaf pak on one side and a 4 pak on the other is TOTALLY in-excusable. Any SMART tech should've stopped and said, "There's something wrong here!!!" and took the time to double check the part numbers, called Toyota directly, and/or even took some time to research before installing anything on the truck. If they would've taken the time - they would've discovered they had an issue!! I just can't believe their own Toyota Techs didn't notice ....... and they're supposed to be *Certified*?? (whatever that means?)

(sorry - I just can't believe they would've done that)
I just got the TSB done on my truck 2 days ago. 4 leafs....
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As everyone else has said...NOT normal.
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The front coils do have two different weight ratings...but I've never heard of any tacomas having irregular leaf counts from side to side from the factory.

The fact that the Toyota techs installed a 3 leaf pak on one side and a 4 pak on the other is TOTALLY in-excusable. Any SMART tech should've stopped and said, "There's something wrong here!!!" and took the time to double check the part numbers, called Toyota directly, and/or even took some time to research before installing anything on the truck. If they would've taken the time - they would've discovered they had an issue!! I just can't believe their own Toyota Techs didn't notice ....... and they're supposed to be *Certified*?? (whatever that means?)

(sorry - I just can't believe they would've done that)
I just got the TSB done on my truck 2 days ago. 4 leafs....
Hey Janster, why do they have two different weight ratings? Just curious, I've never heard of that before.
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Hey Janster, why do they have two different weight ratings? Just curious, I've never heard of that before.
I honestly don't know the details.... but back when I owned my 96 and got together with some PA TTORA folks - we installed lots of lifts for folks. All I know is - the drivers side coil is 'longer' (xtra winding). No official answer why. At the time - most of the tacoma folks just assumed because the engine bay had more components on the drivers side plus the gas tank (1st generation tacomas).

At the time - when folks installed lift kits, they were blessed with the *toyota lean* where the trucks didn't sit level after removing the stock components. I had Rancho 1.5" lift for years and switched to OME lift - and still had the toyota lean. I remember installing 1/4" thick spacer ontop the drivers side coil assembly just to help straighten it out.

I don't know if the new taco's have side specific coils or not. Anyone who has installed a spacer and/or had removed their coils can count the windings and know if one is longer than the other.
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[QUOTE=Janster;38941]The front coils do have two different weight ratings...but I've never heard of any tacomas having irregular leaf counts from side to side from the factory.

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I never have either, but other trucks have used a different overload leaf on one side of some trucks and some used that and different taper and length bottom leaf one side to the other.
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The fact that the Toyota techs installed a 3 leaf pack on one side and a 4 pak on the other is TOTALLY in-excusable. Any SMART tech shouldve stopped and said, "There's something wrong here!!!" and took the time to double check the part numbers, called Toyota directly, and/or even took some time to research before installing anything on the truck. If they would've taken the time - they would've discovered they had an issue!! I just can't believe their own Toyota Techs didn't notice ....... and they're supposed to be *Certified*?? (whatever that means?)

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I agree it should have raised a flag, but who knows, tech might have put one side on at 9 O'clock in the morning, and did another job and come back and did the other at 4:30, but I still think it should have been noticed. If the tech decided to spend 2 hours on the phone to Toyota, that is 2 hours he would not get paid. Perhaps a "Certified" tech means don't ask questions, we are the big wheels who hired the engineers who decide what part number goes where; so does the part number match?, if yes, then install please. Of course I would have been one of the few who would be a rebel and/or asshole and ask questions. Anyone who read the ENTIRE TSB would have noticed a discrepancy, since as well as part numbers, there is leaf count listed, but as several nationwide have been boxed wrong, the tech prob just matched numbers and did what he thought was correct. Blame the plant in Mexico where the springs were boxed.
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(sorry - I just can't believe they would've done that)
I just got the TSB done on my truck 2 days ago.

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He is not the only, several have had to reschedule after the boxes were opened, finding incorrect parts, and others have posted of getting out the door with mismatched springs. Service OK's the TSB, and has parts dept order parts, parts dept hands them to tech on the day of service, and tech installs without question, or maybe 10% does it without questions.
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well guys I drop the truck off yesterday at the dealer and i told the service advisor what they did so he got one of his techs to come over and look at it the tech says"thats normal thats what the tsb calls for" i said NO ITS NOT NORMAL i said everyone else that had the tsb done has 4 leafs on both sides...so he says "let me call toyota" after waiting 15 mins he comes back and says "you have to leave the truck and we will call toyota tomorrow cause they are closed right now" so i left it there and i got a call from the dealership today around 5pm and the service advisor says "we ordered the new parts they will be here tomorrow and your truck will be done tomorrow" so lets see what they f*** up this time...........

p.s i also called and left a message the service manager to complain about this.....guess what he never called me back
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I honestly don't know the details.... but back when I owned my 96 and got together with some PA TTORA folks - we installed lots of lifts for folks. All I know is - the drivers side coil is 'longer' (xtra winding). No official answer why. At the time - most of the tacoma folks just assumed because the engine bay had more components on the drivers side plus the gas tank (1st generation tacomas).

At the time - when folks installed lift kits, they were blessed with the *toyota lean* where the trucks didn't sit level after removing the stock components. I had Rancho 1.5" lift for years and switched to OME lift - and still had the toyota lean. I remember installing 1/4" thick spacer ontop the drivers side coil assembly just to help straighten it out.

I don't know if the new taco's have side specific coils or not. Anyone who has installed a spacer and/or had removed their coils can count the windings and know if one is longer than the other.
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The first series Tundra's had different springs left and right, and the current Tacoma's carry different springs left and right, but are wound the same direction, and same part number shock fits left and right. I have always heard due to the gas tank, battery and driver are all on the same side. My 07 Tacoma has about 3/8-1/2 additional coil from one to the other, and so did my Tundra.
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