Swap 09 AC rear seats with 05-08 rear seats?

atebit · 08-01-2009, 08:43 PM

So after months of debate, today I "upgraded" my truck to an 09 PreRunner AC. I knew that one of the first "hard" mods I wanted to do (after the "easy" head-unit swap out, which is definitely #1 on the list) was to do something about what Toyota did to the rear headrests & seats starting in '09.

In another TW thread, I found a great link to a ToyotaNation thread for removing the read headrests:

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=264071

In that thread, several folks mention that it appears to be possible to do a wholesale swap of the 09 rear bench with one from an 05-08, but that's where the topic ended.

I've searched around TW & haven't found anything on the topic. But for those of us who like to use the rear of the cab to carry things rather than people, this has got to be a hot topic. Has anybody here on TW tried this or have any ideas how to go about it?

dorifuto · 08-01-2009, 09:29 PM

When I had an 06 AC, my main complaint from people riding in the back, other than the lack of room, was the lack of head rests.

I thought the headrests for the 09AC was a huge improvement.

Why remove?

atebit · 08-02-2009, 02:04 AM

In my case, humans will rarely, if ever, occupy the rear seat. Luggage, computer bags, boxes, etc. will, though. The rear center console, fiip-up seats and flip-down headrests all get in the way & make it hard to stack cargo back there, in addition to taking up valuable cargo space themselves.

dexterdog · 08-02-2009, 05:36 AM

I didn't think a normal sized human could fit, let alone want to be, in the back of an Access Cab. Hauling pint sized pip squeeks wouldn't need the head rests due to their lack of height.

Do people that have Access Cabs actually have normal sized humans ride in the back?

dorifuto · 08-02-2009, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexterdog

I didn't think a normal sized human could fit, let alone want to be, in the back of an Access Cab. Hauling pint sized pip squeeks wouldn't need the head rests due to their lack of height.

Do people that have Access Cabs actually have normal sized humans ride in the back?

Yes they do. I was able to fit 4 girls back there.

dexterdog · 08-02-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Yes they do. I was able to fit 4 girls back there.

I'm not talking girls. I'm talking women. Just remember, twelve will get you twenty.

PatHLC128 · 08-02-2009, 08:22 AM

i occasionally have people in my rear seats but like the OP its 99% for cargo. i removed my headrests and the center console but i would also much rather have an 05-08 style backseat too.

atebit · 08-02-2009, 09:10 AM

From the headrest thread at ToyotaNation, the scuttlebutt was that it was do-able, since apparently the mount points for the 08-style rear are still there on the 09s, and whatever mount points were needed for the "improved" rear were simply added to those parts of the chassis.

I understand the rear center console lifts off by removing four bolts, but I don't know if that would be the best place to start the forensics or not. Anybody know where we can find assembly diagrams of that area for the 08's and 09s? I'd ask at my parts dept., but I'd probably get the stock "you can't do that" answer...

dorifuto · 08-02-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexterdog

I'm not talking girls. I'm talking women. Just remember, twelve will get you twenty.

When I said girls, I meant my high school "girl" friends.

True. That AC is only good for cargo really. If your actually gonna transport people, get a DC.

08-02-2009, 08:22 AM	#7
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08-01-2009, 08:43 PM	#1
atebit What's all this, then? Joined: Apr 2008, #6146 Location: The basement of the Alamo Gender: Male Posts: 87 09 MG PreRunner OR AC 2009 Access Cab Automatic	Swap 09 AC rear seats with 05-08 rear seats? So after months of debate, today I "upgraded" my truck to an 09 PreRunner AC. I knew that one of the first "hard" mods I wanted to do (after the "easy" head-unit swap out, which is definitely #1 on the list) was to do something about what Toyota did to the rear headrests & seats starting in '09. In another TW thread, I found a great link to a ToyotaNation thread for removing the read headrests: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=264071 In that thread, several folks mention that it appears to be possible to do a wholesale swap of the 09 rear bench with one from an 05-08, but that's where the topic ended. I've searched around TW & haven't found anything on the topic. But for those of us who like to use the rear of the cab to carry things rather than people, this has got to be a hot topic. Has anybody here on TW tried this or have any ideas how to go about it?

08-01-2009, 09:29 PM	#2
dorifuto Senior Member Name: Mike Joined: May 2009, #17590 Location: Riversidem CA Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 1,163 '09 4X4 Double Cab Stock 2009 Double Cab Automatic 1GFRE Stock	When I had an 06 AC, my main complaint from people riding in the back, other than the lack of room, was the lack of head rests. I thought the headrests for the 09AC was a huge improvement. Why remove?

08-02-2009, 02:04 AM	#3
atebit What's all this, then? Joined: Apr 2008, #6146 Location: The basement of the Alamo Gender: Male Posts: 87 09 MG PreRunner OR AC 2009 Access Cab Automatic	In my case, humans will rarely, if ever, occupy the rear seat. Luggage, computer bags, boxes, etc. will, though. The rear center console, fiip-up seats and flip-down headrests all get in the way & make it hard to stack cargo back there, in addition to taking up valuable cargo space themselves.

08-02-2009, 05:36 AM	#4
dexterdog Senior Member Joined: Jul 2009, #19571 Location: Oly WA Gender: Male Posts: 931 '09 Dbl Cab LB V6 SR5 4wd 2009 Double Cab Automatic V6 Mudflap removal mod	I didn't think a normal sized human could fit, let alone want to be, in the back of an Access Cab. Hauling pint sized pip squeeks wouldn't need the head rests due to their lack of height. Do people that have Access Cabs actually have normal sized humans ride in the back?

08-02-2009, 09:10 AM	#8
atebit What's all this, then? Joined: Apr 2008, #6146 Location: The basement of the Alamo Gender: Male Posts: 87 09 MG PreRunner OR AC 2009 Access Cab Automatic	From the headrest thread at ToyotaNation, the scuttlebutt was that it was do-able, since apparently the mount points for the 08-style rear are still there on the 09s, and whatever mount points were needed for the "improved" rear were simply added to those parts of the chassis. I understand the rear center console lifts off by removing four bolts, but I don't know if that would be the best place to start the forensics or not. Anybody know where we can find assembly diagrams of that area for the 08's and 09s? I'd ask at my parts dept., but I'd probably get the stock "you can't do that" answer...