Changing my oil and I . . . .

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 02:26 PM

well I have about 15000 miles on my 07 access cab, today I was swaping the oil and filter and noticed an amount of metal particles in the used oil. Is this normal? A friend of mine said that often these motors take thousands of miles to break in, is this true? anyone else have experiences with metal flakes in the oil on something this broke in ?

Thanks

BTW this question prompted me to join, this looks to be the best tacoma forum on the web and i'm sure this will be a cool place to hang around.

WilsonTheDog · 03-30-2008, 02:41 PM

15K? Seems like you shouldn't be seeing metal particles at that point. I don't see any and I'm only halfway there.

tacotoe · 03-30-2008, 02:46 PM

I dont think you should have metal particles (or any particles).Are you sure the drain pan was clean? Maybe you could have got some dirt / debris knocked loose from the underside of the truck?

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 02:49 PM

yes that would be my third change, I found these particles even in the oil filters dirty oil. They are very small and almost look like gliter I cant prove if they are metal they may be oxygen bubbles? I am going to go outside and look again.

tacotoe · 03-30-2008, 02:54 PM

If you have a magnet, fish around a bit and see if it picks up anything. (Suggestion)

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 02:57 PM

the funny thing is that it shines green, purple

tacotoe · 03-30-2008, 02:58 PM

True, true. Good Point and suggestion.

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 03:19 PM

Case solved !

ok so I went outside and reexamined the oilpan, I see that theses flakes are green and purple when they shine in the sun. I look very closely and see that these "flakes" are not only on in the oil but indeed cover the whole top of the pan, well I did not drain my oil into the pan first, I drained it into a bucket which also had reminates of these falkes at the bottom. I walk into the garage and see next to where we keep the oil pan and bucket what . . . . A can of silver spray paint, next to that a broken taillight lense. I look at the tailight lens and see that it has some over spray on it, I take it outside and hold it up in the sun. The same damn metal flakes, Conclusion Dumb little cousin must have been in the garage spray painting his guitar (It has same color paint and infact I think he bought this can because I didn't) right next to my oil pan. the metal flake particles must be flaotin around and settleing on my supplies. hence the oil running down the pan was breaking these flakes loose and mixing them into the oil. The bucket also containd these flakes because it was right next to where I found the evidence (taillight with overspray on it) so these flakes are not from my oil yet have been contaminated from the surroundings, only one thing left to do teach my little cuz a lesson . . . . .

Thanks for the help everyone I was getting ready to head down to toyota with my dirty oil untill my detective skills kicked in.

tacotoe · 03-30-2008, 03:23 PM

Good job inspector. Wooh sigh of relief,wipe persperation from forehead.

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tacotoe

Good job inspector. Wooh sigh of relief,wipe persperation from forehead.

yeah I was really starting to get scared when every one here was saying this wasn't normal.

Bill in Ky · 03-30-2008, 04:03 PM

Whew!
I was suckin through my teeth!

concrete jedi · 03-30-2008, 04:21 PM

Me too Bill !

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 04:26 PM

I should have known what was up because the flakes didn't look aluminum they were very reflective, but if any one was losing it it was me j/k

concrete jedi · 03-30-2008, 04:32 PM

At least you had the sense to look in the oil, you definitely could not work at Jiffy Lube. he he

klown · 03-30-2008, 05:05 PM

Good thing you got to the bottom of it, I was about to suggest your truck is FKed up and sell the damn thing and get a new one.

Metal Magic · 03-30-2008, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Magic

I should have known what was up because the flakes didn't look aluminum they were very reflective, but if any one was losing it it was me j/k

very true, In fact I just cut my oil filter in half to get to some fresh uncontaminated oil. once inside there where some small flakes, dirt, desbrie, etc but no green/purple flakes. I am feel better knowing that my truck is ok (seeing that I still owe 12000 dolalrs on it) what a crazy day next time I change my oil I will be sure to clean the shit out of the pan with some gas and a few old rags. I might just go buy a new one.

Moral of the story is . .. . . . . well I don't think there is one maybe don't spray paint inside ?

Roland · 03-30-2008, 07:23 PM

Gratz on finding the source of the flakes before heading to the dealer!

03-30-2008, 02:26 PM	#1
Metal Magic Junior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5609 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 28 2007 tacoma access standad 2007 Access Cab Manual	Changing my oil and I . . . . well I have about 15000 miles on my 07 access cab, today I was swaping the oil and filter and noticed an amount of metal particles in the used oil. Is this normal? A friend of mine said that often these motors take thousands of miles to break in, is this true? anyone else have experiences with metal flakes in the oil on something this broke in ? Thanks BTW this question prompted me to join, this looks to be the best tacoma forum on the web and i'm sure this will be a cool place to hang around.

03-30-2008, 04:03 PM	#11
Bill in Ky Senior Member Joined: Nov 2007, #3384 Posts: 153 Bright White 08 Reg 4X4 2.7 5spd SR5 I gotmy first 4x4 in 1972...haven't been without one! I still like Chrome!	Whew! I was suckin through my teeth! __________________ OEM Cruise added~OEM Fog Lights on anytime~16x8 Chrome Spokes~255-70 Toyo A/T Open Country~Chrome Grille~A.R.E. Hard Tonneau~aFe dry air filter~removed secondary filter.

03-30-2008, 05:05 PM	#15
klown Tacoma World Ring Leader Joined: Dec 2007, #3716 Location: Lynchburg, VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,161 2008 TRD sport 4x4 double cab 6-speed 2008 Double Cab Manual 4.0 Black, leather and heated seats, borla sport exhaust, side curtain airbags, daytime running lights, all weather mats, JBL premium 6 disk changer system, stainless step tubes, window tint, tow package	Good thing you got to the bottom of it, I was about to suggest your truck is FKed up and sell the damn thing and get a new one. __________________ Does it have to do with PORN?

03-30-2008, 07:23 PM	#17
Roland My other ride has sails Joined: Jan 2008, #4149 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,873 06 Impulse Red I4 2WD Access Cab 2006 Access Cab Manual 2.7 UnderCover Tonneau, Bed mat, Bug Deflector, aFe Pro Dry S, Secondary Air Filter removed, Synthetic 5W-30 oil, Scanguage II with blendmount, WeatherTech floorliners, Toyota seat covers, Installed OEM intermittent wipers, TacomaWorld sticker, Defrost without AC mod.	Gratz on finding the source of the flakes before heading to the dealer! __________________ "Life's journeys End is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy shit what a ride!"

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03-30-2008, 02:41 PM	#2
WilsonTheDog Softball God Joined: Nov 2007, #3496 Location: Murrells Inlet SC Posts: 1,162 07 Prerunner SR5 DC/SB V6 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 Magnaflow 12576 muffler & chrome tip, Westin step bars, Firestone Destination A/T 265/75/16, stubbie antenna, 27% tint, Pop N Lock, Valeo Ultimate wipers, AFE filter, bed mat, Husky liners	15K? Seems like you shouldn't be seeing metal particles at that point. I don't see any and I'm only halfway there.

03-30-2008, 02:46 PM	#3
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 344 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	I dont think you should have metal particles (or any particles).Are you sure the drain pan was clean? Maybe you could have got some dirt / debris knocked loose from the underside of the truck?

03-30-2008, 02:49 PM	#4
Metal Magic Junior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5609 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 28 2007 tacoma access standad 2007 Access Cab Manual	yes that would be my third change, I found these particles even in the oil filters dirty oil. They are very small and almost look like gliter I cant prove if they are metal they may be oxygen bubbles? I am going to go outside and look again.

03-30-2008, 02:54 PM	#5
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 344 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	If you have a magnet, fish around a bit and see if it picks up anything. (Suggestion)

03-30-2008, 02:57 PM	#6
Metal Magic Junior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5609 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 28 2007 tacoma access standad 2007 Access Cab Manual	the funny thing is that it shines green, purple

03-30-2008, 02:58 PM	#7
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 344 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	True, true. Good Point and suggestion.

03-30-2008, 03:19 PM	#8
Metal Magic Junior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5609 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 28 2007 tacoma access standad 2007 Access Cab Manual	Case solved ! ok so I went outside and reexamined the oilpan, I see that theses flakes are green and purple when they shine in the sun. I look very closely and see that these "flakes" are not only on in the oil but indeed cover the whole top of the pan, well I did not drain my oil into the pan first, I drained it into a bucket which also had reminates of these falkes at the bottom. I walk into the garage and see next to where we keep the oil pan and bucket what . . . . A can of silver spray paint, next to that a broken taillight lense. I look at the tailight lens and see that it has some over spray on it, I take it outside and hold it up in the sun. The same damn metal flakes, Conclusion Dumb little cousin must have been in the garage spray painting his guitar (It has same color paint and infact I think he bought this can because I didn't) right next to my oil pan. the metal flake particles must be flaotin around and settleing on my supplies. hence the oil running down the pan was breaking these flakes loose and mixing them into the oil. The bucket also containd these flakes because it was right next to where I found the evidence (taillight with overspray on it) so these flakes are not from my oil yet have been contaminated from the surroundings, only one thing left to do teach my little cuz a lesson . . . . . Thanks for the help everyone I was getting ready to head down to toyota with my dirty oil untill my detective skills kicked in.

03-30-2008, 03:23 PM	#9
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 344 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	Good job inspector. Wooh sigh of relief,wipe persperation from forehead.

03-30-2008, 04:21 PM	#12
concrete jedi Senior Member Joined: Oct 2007, #3142 Location: Rochester N.Y Age: 43 Posts: 2,455 06 Tacoma 4 door indigo blue 2006 Double Cab Manual V-6 4.0 liter Broken and scratched tailgate, cracked rear tail light lens, coffee stain in driver seat.	Me too Bill !

03-30-2008, 04:26 PM	#13
Metal Magic Junior Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5609 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 28 2007 tacoma access standad 2007 Access Cab Manual	I should have known what was up because the flakes didn't look aluminum they were very reflective, but if any one was losing it it was me j/k

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