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Old 03-02-2010, 10:00 AM   #1
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TSB's Out of Warranty

There's been alot of talk about TSB T-SB-0305-08 (Leaf Spring Issue) here and it's clear that this is covered ONLY under the 3 year / 36 month warranty.

My situation is this: bought a 2008 Access cab with 38,000 miles on it. I've had it 2 months and live in the Snow Zone of the Midwest. I put 180 lbs. of sand in the back for traction and now constantly hear the bed hitting the bump stops when I go over a small dip in the road or go over speed bumps.

So I am basically S.O.L. unless I want to spend the ± $1,500 to have the stealership do the mod, right?

As someone else on here stated in another thread, this seems like poor design on Toyota's part. Is there any other recourse, i.e. better shocks, etc. (I am not a wrench so looking for advice).
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AAL or a different leaf pack. You can also have the OEM leafs re-arched. The AAL or different leaf pack will generally lift the rear. So you may want to think about that.
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I would go to a dealer and tell the service manager your story. Did you buy it from a Toyota dealer? That might help but not necessary.
Pretty sure others on here have gotten the TSB done past the warranty mileage.
You should at least try IMO. I wouldn't even mention the mileage to the dealer if I were you, just the other stuff.
Toyota is in a Please The Customer mode big time right now.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:54 AM   #4
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Pretty sure others on here have gotten the TSB done past the warranty mileage.
You should at least try IMO. I wouldn't even mention the mileage to the dealer if I were you, just the other stuff.
Toyota is in a Please The Customer mode big time right now.
Thanks, there is no doubt that Toy is in that mode. TSB is pretty clear but might be worth a try. If that fails, may need to re-arch the leafs. Not really sure what AAL's are????

Anybody??
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I believe AAL is add a leaf. It's just an extra leaf spring you add to the pack of springs you got on already. I'm no machanic though.
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Add A Leaf. It's another leaf spring added to your current set. The only issue is it will add any where from 1-2 inches of lift in the rear.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:06 PM   #7
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Add A Leaf. It's another leaf spring added to your current set. The only issue is it will add any where from 1-2 inches of lift in the rear.
Gotcha, thanks guys. I will look into the AAL. Aid Association for Lutherans right??
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Have you ever thought of getting a set of air shocks or a helper airbag setup?
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I have seen some pics of the AAL TSB done and to me it just makes the rear of the truck sit to high compared to the front

I think a set of air shocks would suite your needs

You could adjust the air in them as you need it

But it's up to you
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i've also heard of guys workin a deal with the stealership where they pay for the parts and then you do the installation on your own.... if you have the extended warranty it should cover it...or at least it covered mine...best of luck
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I have seen some pics of the AAL TSB done and to me it just makes the rear of the truck sit to high compared to the front

I think a set of air shocks would suite your needs

You could adjust the air in them as you need it

But it's up to you
That was my original thought and will probably go that route. I mean, if 180 lbs of sand in the bed bottoms it out there is no way I can tow my boat with it like it is.

Seems a huge oversight to put a 4 litre V6 in a vehicle with baby stroller springs in the rear. Piss poor engineering in my opinion. Thanks for the advice guys.....I'm sure I am not the only one in this position.
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That was my original thought and will probably go that route. I mean, if 180 lbs of sand in the bed bottoms it out there is no way I can tow my boat with it like it is.

Seems a huge oversight to put a 4 litre V6 in a vehicle with baby stroller springs in the rear. Piss poor engineering in my opinion. Thanks for the advice guys.....I'm sure I am not the only one in this position.

LOL....I've one the math too many times- but the amount of people who actually complain and get the springs replaced is something like 1-2% of the folks who buy Tacomas.

SO the other 98% of folks get a nice plush ride and don't give a shit about loading a few more pounds....Seems like Toyota is making out pretty well.
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There's been alot of talk about TSB T-SB-0305-08 (Leaf Spring Issue) here and it's clear that this is covered ONLY under the 3 year / 36 month warranty.

My situation is this: bought a 2008 Access cab with 38,000 miles on it. I've had it 2 months and live in the Snow Zone of the Midwest. I put 180 lbs. of sand in the back for traction and now constantly hear the bed hitting the bump stops when I go over a small dip in the road or go over speed bumps.

So I am basically S.O.L. unless I want to spend the ± $1,500 to have the stealership do the mod, right?

As someone else on here stated in another thread, this seems like poor design on Toyota's part. Is there any other recourse, i.e. better shocks, etc. (I am not a wrench so looking for advice).
I am in the same boat as you (54,000k). I took my truck to the dealer yesterday and he agreed with me, after doing tests that my shit was F&$ed up. He explained the 3 year/36k warranty and gave me the $1,900 quote for parts and labor.

Your beef is with the customer care people, not the dealer. I tried calling the number yesterday to open a case but I was on hold for 30 min and gave up. I plan on trying again today and will post any new info.

Good luck with yours
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Toyota is in a Please The Customer mode big time right now.
Thats for sure I complained about my crappy radio that turned off on its own & they offered me $500 in free parts/accesories, four months later when the radio didn't come in as promised they gave me a check for $600 w/o me complaining about it at all. You have to admit Toyota is taking care of customers, I think the fact I have bought three $30K trucks in the last four years has something to do with it though.
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LOL....I've one the math too many times- but the amount of people who actually complain and get the springs replaced is something like 1-2% of the folks who buy Tacomas.

SO the other 98% of folks get a nice plush ride and don't give a shit about loading a few more pounds....Seems like Toyota is making out pretty well.
Seems like alot of people use these trucks as mall crawlers & for them the three leaf pack is the best smoothest ride. I haul which is why I bought a truck with a towing package Toyota should have put a four leaf pack on all towing pack trucks just my opinion though. I got the TSB done rides better in my opinion, more truck like.
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I just had the tsb done on my 05 with 58k. Toyota paid for half after about a month of back and forth with coporate, so it's worth a few phone calls. Truck rides more like a truck, too.
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my dealer's service manager agreed to cover the labor. i had to pony up $500+ for the parts. not a bad deal, and i was more than appreciative. i thanked him for his VERY generous offer, but politely declined. i opted to spend just a tad more money and redo my entire suspension, by adding a mild lift.
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I would go to a dealer and tell the service manager your story. Did you buy it from a Toyota dealer? That might help but not necessary.
Pretty sure others on here have gotten the TSB done past the warranty mileage.
You should at least try IMO. I wouldn't even mention the mileage to the dealer if I were you, just the other stuff.
Toyota is in a Please The Customer mode big time right now.
Toyota is NOT in the please the customer mode.
I renewed my TSB request and also pointed out the corroded wheels.
They politely said Eff U.
Toyota is only flexible if you have a congressional inquiry.
Sorry, but it's same old same old.
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Have you ever thought of getting a set of air shocks or a helper airbag setup?
That's what I did.
Air bag on its' way now.
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aficianado, what suspension did you end up going with?

i was denied the tsb as well and might as well go with a subtle/mild lift.
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