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Old 04-29-2010, 08:06 PM   #41
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Necessary? No. A good idea? Yes.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:07 PM   #42
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Obviously you need some sort of gauge. If it wasn't needed you wouldn't need a speedometer,or a tach,would you? This bullshit of "I just feel what's right" is just that,bullshit.How many people would put up with no speedometer or tach? Hell,why even do you need a fuel gauge,you should just "get a feel for it",right? Come on now!
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^Those examples are just a BIT over the top, no? Some of us simply do have "a feel for it". It comes with years and years of experience.

However, I still recommend using a torque wrench.
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^Those examples are just a BIT over the top, no? Some of us simply do have "a feel for it". It comes with years and years of experience.

However, I still recommend using a torque wrench.
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Obviously you need some sort of gauge. If it wasn't needed you wouldn't need a speedometer,or a tach,would you? This bullshit of "I just feel what's right" is just that,bullshit.How many people would put up with no speedometer or tach? Hell,why even do you need a fuel gauge,you should just "get a feel for it",right? Come on now!
So I guess you change your flat tire with a torque wrench. Who needs a tach driving an auto ?
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Yes. Because this idiot kid over-tightened my friend's X5's oil pan and cracked it.
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So I guess you change your flat tire with a torque wrench. Who needs a tach driving an auto ?
For when you manually shift the gears or are trying to save gas to stay under a certain RPM.
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Oil plugs are one thing I don't use a torque wrench on. They do not need to be very tight so I just make them snug.
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A good example is my buddy destroyed a brand new crankshaft dampener on his 280z due to having it under torqued. Est without a torque wrench he maybe did 40-50lb, spec was around 90ish. It was able to get a bit loose and tear itself apart.

So necessary no... but it can save you a lot in the long run, plus lost time going back in to fix things that weren't torqued properly to start with.

Also over torquing is one of the worst offenses home mechanics do...
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In some situations, its very important. In other situations....not so much.

For instance..... Installing a water pump on a tacoma. The recommended torque (If I remember correctly) on the bolts to the block, is like 15ft lbs. If you torque it too much, the alluminum housing on the water pump can crack, and/or the seal to the block won't be effective, there might actually be clearance issues, and god knows what else.

When Installing leaf springs and tightening U-bolts....I've personally never used a torque wrench. I'll get them 'F*n' tight.
I've seen far too many problems (on the trails) with suspensions coming loose and breaking all kinds of stuff.

You have to use your own judgement in knowing when its OK to not use a torque wrench.

In terms of wheels & tires...... Over-torqueing your lug nuts can cause your rotors to warp. I believe the torque is 85ft lbs. I actually use 100ft lbs on all our vehicles.
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I should use a torque wrench more often but my elbow is calibrated pretty accurately -- I have a good feel for an approximate value. Any engine work (especially spark plugs or cyl heads) or suspension work, I definitely use the tq wrench.
Agreed. If you don't want to buy tw try torque sticks for impacts. work fairly well. Torque values are tricky when using old harware thats rusted. Try prevaling torque (lock nuts, They don't come loose unless you reuse them.

Agree with above. Suspension. The German way Goodentight.
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Always use factory spec torque on your truck. Atleast just for the peace of mind knowing its on there to spec. and not having a problem later on from under or overtightening. Spark plugs are a great example of NEVER tightening something too much or too little.
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try torque sticks for impacts. work fairly well.
X2 on the torque sticks. I have a 100lb stick that I use on the wheels/tires. Makes life easier to Zing the lug nuts on and get the torque pretty close.

Our torque stick is older than dirt (10 yrs) and has been used pretty hard. So - it's not as good as it used to be. I always use regular torque wrench after, as a quick check.
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^Those examples are just a BIT over the top, no? Some of us simply do have "a feel for it". It comes with years and years of experience.

However, I still recommend using a torque wrench.
I KNOW THAT'S A BIT OVER THE TOP! Just making a point.
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So I guess you change your flat tire with a torque wrench. Who needs a tach driving an auto ?
So you just leave your spare on for how long? And you get flats how often? I can count on one hand the times I"ve had a flat in 27yrs. of driving.I've used a soda can to smoke weed too.
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Old 04-30-2010, 08:59 PM   #56
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^^You are a lucky man but a more serious note, if it has anything to do with the engine or transmission I will always torque bolts to specs but otherwise with lugs, u-bolts, shocks, d-rings, etc. I just use my judgment. I roll mine with Rizla BTW.
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I use a torque wrench on most everything.
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here is the main issue and why you should use a torque wrench , its not how tight its how evenly all the bolts are ..... lug nuts can come loose if uneven torque is aplied , not always come loose but why take a chance ..... if they ask 80lbs of torque then 80 it is ..... if you have 6 lugs and some are 75 and some are a 100 and some are 60 , then it could cause problems (could).... but like I said even torque is important , whether its on wheels or engine or name it, #'s are there for a reason ..... Enjoy the ride my friend ........ PS. #'s are IMPORTANT ...... 6 QRTS OF OIL ,OR I JUST GET A FEEL FOR THE AMOUNT ??????????? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT THATS JUST MY 2 CENTS

ENJOY THE RIDE !!!!!!!
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same here, if I know or can find out what the recommended torque of a bolt/nut should be, I'll use the torque wrench.
You can alway find the torque using "google" as long as you know the size and grade of the bolt.
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