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Old 06-01-2008, 09:27 AM   #21
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to single out fuel price as the main reason people are struggling with financing their lifestyles is unreasonable.
Agreed,
I think the media has a lot to do with this. The struggling family trying to choose between feeding themselves and feeding their SUV makes a good story. A much less sensational story is why are you driving that giant gas guzzling SUV in the first place.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:27 AM   #22
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I suppose I should back up my last post with a simple Bay Area example; our 1840 square ft 4 bedroom 2 bath home here in the Sunset San Francisco-$995,000. Tracy, Ca. which is 75 miles east, 1700 square ft 4 bedroom 2 bath NEW built in '98 with a yard twice our size $270,000! by the way the inflated prices around S.F. cover a 40-50 mile area!

Thats a deal dude, 995000 is a real good deal for 1840 unless you dont have a garage. We looked at a condo on Kirkham and 48th (or maybe it was 47th) a few months ago and we were looking at 2k+ just to rent. Needless to say we decided to buy a house in San Jose instead.

You can buy a house in stockton now for around 50k, and thats not much farther that tracy!

Inflated prices go as far south as San Jose/Morgan Hill, as far north as Novato/Petaluma (Marin/Sonoma) and west into well, that depends where ya go.... we can say walnut creek. You just have to remember pay scale is way tilted in the bay to balance out the cost of living, also SF is expensive due to it's pro renter standing.... I looked at purchasing in the city and more often than not condo's were actualy TIC's that may take 5 years to flip to condo.
SF housing market is expensive due to supply and demand, small area and a-lot of people(and cars).

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Old 06-01-2008, 09:36 AM   #23
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Thanks for the input Chris-and your testimonial goes right to my point on fuel costs-they are rising at a rate that only blows a budget and its all about GREED. Period. I DO NOT 'expect' cheap fuel as an "entitlement". I always worked for what I have-and hard too. Just keep checking the profit margin the oil guys enjoy as related to those prices. Then tell me it's a good balance for the greater good.
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Thanks for the input Chris-and your testimonial goes right to my point on fuel costs-they are rising at a rate that only blows a budget and its all about GREED. Period. I DO NOT 'expect' cheap fuel as an "entitlement". I always worked for what I have-and hard too. Just keep checking the profit margin the oil guys enjoy as related to those prices. Then tell me it's a good balance for the greater good.

I think the number is 3BILLION dollars in PROFT A MONTH is what the major oil companies are pulling in!!!! How do they make record profits and say the price of petrol is not their fault! The Saudi's are correct, there is enough oil on the market! Oil companies like Shell, Chevron, Connoco/Phillips are gouging americans and manipulating oil futures in an attempt to force the public to allow more drilling in the US. They took note during the California energy crisis when energy companies slowed output to create a false shortage and now look, the PUC is planning to permit new power plants in Nor Cal.

IMO the oil companies are strong arming americans into permitting new oil drilling on the contenental US (and off shore) so they have the ability to control it, not like the volitile middle east or central america where their intrests could be confiscated by governments, remember IRAN? Where is the best place to drill, well your back yard silly!

How was that for a rant! Keep in mind Im a red blooded, meat eating, gun tote'in, Republican, not some enviromentalist or tree hugger or some sissy who thinks smokin pot and free hugs will create world peace. And this is all JMO!
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:02 AM   #25
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Yeah Chris RANT on-republicans are gettin jacked in this ride too! It's No different than a corporate pecking order where the CEO reaps a perverted figure and the guys/gals you revere as 'bosses' are merely puppets in the total picture!
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:49 AM   #26
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Im a red blooded, meat eating, gun tote'in, Republican, not some enviromentalist or tree hugger or some sissy who thinks smokin pot and free hugs will create world peace. And this is all JMO!
AMEN!!!!!!!
And +1 for your post!
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:21 AM   #27
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thank you, thank you... just nice to know I'm not the only one who can see through the oil companys BS propaganda.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:52 AM   #28
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How was that for a rant! Keep in mind Im a red blooded, meat eating, gun tote'in, Republican, not some enviromentalist or tree hugger or some sissy who thinks smokin pot and free hugs will create world peace. And this is all JMO![/quote]

Glad to see some of us on the "Left Coast" are still "right" !!!

Saw $4.59/gal mid grade last night just thinking driving two hours (work is 140 miles one way)at 75 MPH at 18 MPG =$38.25 for the Taco vs 75MPH at 32 MPG= $21.51 for the Civic. I would much rather drive the Tacoma but gotta save something for beer.

Commercial Diesel trucks average 7 MPG... 60MPH= $43.63/hr. ($5.09/gal)

I don't know what everyone's wages are but can see the chunk gas is pulling out of them. One thing I do know is individual Americans will always find a way to pay for our vices be it a gas guzzler vehicle, beer, boats, or a big screen TV. Generally the ones saying the government should do something about the prices are the ones not willing to do what it takes to live the lifestyle they want. There are no guarantees in life, but the possibilties are great here in the Greatest Nation. Enough sober rantings, time for a beer!!

PS: How can i get an application for the Western Alliance???
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:12 PM   #29
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Hey guys- you're welcome to be part of the Western alliance 2 requirements: 1-put it in your profile like we did......2-understand that it's a simple regional alliance and not an 'alliance' against other regions-we're ALL a Tacoma family-we aint clikky.............on the subject, I'm smak in the middle of the sesspool of liberalism called San Francisco-I'm holding down the same views on life you guys hold it aint hard-I'm proud of the views I have that are born out of my heritage.
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Gladly accepting of the rules and proud of the alliance, thank you!! Thought about the Carolina division after seeing No Carolina and the Smokie Mtns 2 years ago. My wife and daughters are direct decendants of a Revolutionary War Patriot. Her uncle is still living on land deeded to the family as a result of Revoltionary War service. Glad to see were all one big family.
Hey Ridge, I understand the liberal cesspool the bay area is but many of us need it for the income it provides. I am more proud of this alliance than my socialist liberal union I am forced to be a part of. They may get my money but they get none of my political support. THere are a lot of us conservatives in California, it just we're too busy working to be more politically active. God, Family, work, guns, beer all take priority over aguing some assinine liberal "if we just get along, redistribute our money to the poor, and ignore or embrace those that seek the death of us and our country etc" thought process.

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10...Uhhh, MMmm... I can only think of one: Eventually they die!!!
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Top Ten good things about Liberals:
10...Uhhh, MMmm... I can only think of one: Eventually they die!!!
WHew! My wife almost saw this comment. I would have been banned from this fourum, You know how liberals are.
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Hey guys- you're welcome to be part of the Western alliance 2 requirements: 1-put it in your profile like we did......2-understand that it's a simple regional alliance and not an 'alliance' against other regions-we're ALL a Tacoma family-we aint clikky.............on the subject, I'm smak in the middle of the sesspool of liberalism called San Francisco-I'm holding down the same views on life you guys hold it aint hard-I'm proud of the views I have that are born out of my heritage.
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How was that for a rant! Keep in mind Im a red blooded, meat eating, gun tote'in, Republican, not some enviromentalist or tree hugger or some sissy who thinks smokin pot and free hugs will create world peace. And this is all JMO!
Glad to see some of us on the "Left Coast" are still "right" !!!

Saw $4.59/gal mid grade last night just thinking driving two hours (work is 140 miles one way)at 75 MPH at 18 MPG =$38.25 for the Taco vs 75MPH at 32 MPG= $21.51 for the Civic. I would much rather drive the Tacoma but gotta save something for beer.

Commercial Diesel trucks average 7 MPG... 60MPH= $43.63/hr. ($5.09/gal)

I don't know what everyone's wages are but can see the chunk gas is pulling out of them. One thing I do know is individual Americans will always find a way to pay for our vices be it a gas guzzler vehicle, beer, boats, or a big screen TV. Generally the ones saying the government should do something about the prices are the ones not willing to do what it takes to live the lifestyle they want. There are no guarantees in life, but the possibilties are great here in the Greatest Nation. Enough sober rantings, time for a beer!!

PS: How can i get an application for the Western Alliance???[/quote]



Cheers! Good rant!!!!!
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Gladly accepting of the rules and proud of the alliance, thank you!! Thought about the Carolina division after seeing No Carolina and the Smokie Mtns 2 years ago. My wife and daughters are direct decendants of a Revolutionary War Patriot. Her uncle is still living on land deeded to the family as a result of Revoltionary War service. Glad to see were all one big family.
Hey Ridge, I understand the liberal cesspool the bay area is but many of us need it for the income it provides. I am more proud of this alliance than my socialist liberal union I am forced to be a part of. They may get my money but they get none of my political support. THere are a lot of us conservatives in California, it just we're too busy working to be more politically active. God, Family, work, guns, beer all take priority over aguing some assinine liberal "if we just get along, redistribute our money to the poor, and ignore or embrace those that seek the death of us and our country etc" thought process.

Top Ten good things about Liberals:
10...Uhhh, MMmm... I can only think of one: Eventually they die!!!

Excellent Post!!!!

The one thing to remember about neo-naziest liberals is that, they are liberals because they can afford to be. Marin County for example, they wanna save the earth but clearcutting 2 acres of land for their 4000sf guest home is acceptable! In the city homeless have more rights that the average joe walking to AT&T park!

Sometimes the rights of some americans must be suspended to secure the safety of this great nation, not the other way around! Thats what the bay area has forgotten.

Freedom and Liberty have never been free, it has been bought and paid for by the blood of patriots.
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