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Question for those that have installed URD Short Shifter

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by xxaarraa, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Nov 11, 2010 at 6:28 AM
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    xxaarraa

    xxaarraa [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Hello Folks,

    I just purchased the URD short throw kit for my 6 speed. I am reading the installation instructions and one thing worries me:

    "Use a center punch to stake the setscrews. This is done by
    placing the shifter extension flat in a vice or on an anvil and
    tap the metal just outside of the threaded hole that the
    setscrew goes into. Take care not to damage the tip ball.
    This will peen the opening over and permanently lock the
    setscrews into the shifter so they cannot back out.

    There is a lot of high frequency vibration in the transmission
    from the gears and other rotating assemblies. Staking the
    setscrews will make certain that the setscrews cannot back
    out and fall into the transmission"

    Staking the stock components doesn't sit right with me. I was hoping this would be reversible at some point.

    Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions on this? Is this a mod that cannot be undone? Please advice,
     
  2. Nov 11, 2010 at 6:43 AM
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    You can probably locktite the set screws and get close enuf. You also aren't doing anything to the stock parts...so it might take some extra work to get them out after staking them...you still could...
     
  3. Nov 12, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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    The stock shifter sucked, so i wasn't too worried about this not being reversible. But since none of the stock parts are being peened, it's still possible to remove the URD shifter. It will just be harder to remove the setscrews.

    Pretty sure after you feel how much better the shifter feels with the urd kit, you will forget all about reversing this.
     
  4. Nov 12, 2010 at 4:34 PM
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    I have put several of these on at various mod days.

    I loctite & stake the screws. I have pulled the URD extension off as well. I just use new set screws when reinstalling.

    You are better off to stake the set screws.
     
  5. Dec 5, 2010 at 5:21 AM
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    Hi guys,

    I installed the URD yesterday and while I like the more firm/precise shifts, I am a little concerned about the level of effort to get it in reverse. I am a fairly strong guy but cannot for the life of me get it in reverse without really flexing at a weird angle or using two hands. If anyone is watching from the outside, they are probably thinking WTF.

    Does this get better with use? Needs to be worn in or something?
     
  6. Dec 5, 2010 at 5:26 AM
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    I got used to it pretty quick. A little slapping or the quick pull to the R slot usually works just fine for me.
     
  7. Dec 5, 2010 at 6:10 AM
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    Also, here is a tip: The URD instructions say to use a block of wood or something to knock the spacer plate off the transmission. I tried that and ended up breaking a bit off the ceramic base plate. I then used the leg from a jack stand and it did the job perfectly.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Dec 5, 2010 at 10:40 AM
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    x2 a quick slap from neutral into reverse works with minimal effort. If you try to slowly pull it over there, it's extremely difficult.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2010 at 2:04 AM
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    Thanks Brunes. I tried the slap thing and it works, though still a bit jarring on my elbow. Does it ever loosen with age? I don't see why it would, but hoping for hope's sake :)
     
  10. Dec 6, 2010 at 3:51 AM
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    Ehhh....I think I got used to it more than it loosened up. It takes some effort- but the shifts thru the rest of the range are worth it IMO. Only spend like 30 seconds in reverse for most trips I go on...
     
  11. Dec 6, 2010 at 4:04 AM
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    Everything loosens with age :D
     
  12. Dec 6, 2010 at 5:39 AM
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    hahahaha, I think that was a lay-up! :)
     

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