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xguntherc 03-21-2013 06:47 PM

Plastic melting on Tacoma for no reason...
 
Hey guys. We have been talking about this briefly over in our Vegas thread, but I've got a serious issue with my Tacoma.

My side mirror and grill appear to be melting... Yea, I said melting. It's not even summer yet and hasn't even hit the 110 degree temps. Basically my driver side mirror and grill have been melting. Noticed this about a week ago, then noticed my mirror had the same terrible issue.

I've googled around and it appears it could possibly be energy efficient windows reflecting the sun producing an extra hot reflection (think magnifying glass) and this is an issue for cheap ABS plastic... like what the Tacoma and Prius use. I can't imagine shitty Hyundai's don't have this issue, but my 30k truck would, but what do I know.

Here's a gallery so you can all see the pain I've recently received.
http://imgur.com/a/XxCmo

Here's one for those too lazy to click!
http://i.imgur.com/UuhHtfch.jpg

4WD 03-21-2013 06:49 PM

Looks like someone took a torch to it...:cool:

BradyT88 03-21-2013 06:50 PM

Holy shit! If it is reflective windows doing it, then the only thing I can think of is do a Satoshi grill and get some sort of metal mirror covers.

xguntherc 03-21-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4WD (Post 6626325)
Looks like someone took a torch to it...:cool:

Yea but it's also on the grill in a random place, and that was a different day. It wasn't a torch, pretty sure. I have absolutely no clue though and would love to hear your thoughts.

I'm going to Toyota dealership Saturday and raising hell. Had it for 3 months.

xguntherc 03-21-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradyT88 (Post 6626335)
Holy shit! If it is reflective windows doing it, then the only thing I can think of is do a Satoshi grill and get some sort of metal mirror covers.

Metal and chrome is ugly IMO. I'm going all black. haha.

BradyT88 03-21-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xguntherc (Post 6626357)
Metal and chrome is ugly IMO. I'm going all black. haha.

Satoshis are usually black, like these:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/d...liveAvLph6.jpg
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/d...liveDr7MeA.jpg

You could just paint these black too.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...KxVkbMmcMBN3IQ

4WD 03-21-2013 07:00 PM

Gotta tell ya thats weird as hell, if its from reflective light I'd make sure I parked in the shade, & if not intentional (vandalism) take a good hard look at where you've been parking for an extended time, just seems like if it was from that It'd almost have to be magnified some how to get that hot....just throwing it out there....:notsure:

BradyT88 03-21-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4WD (Post 6626416)
Gotta tell ya thats weird as hell, if its from reflective light I'd make sure I parked in the shade, & if not intentional (vandalism) take a good hard look at where you've been parking for an extended time, just seems like if it was from that It'd almost have to be magnified some how to get that hot....just throwing it out there....:notsure:

Yeah. I am leaning towards vandalism. Someone jealous of your Tacoma maybe?

Millertime187 03-21-2013 07:16 PM

That shit is crazy!!!!!!

xguntherc 03-21-2013 07:25 PM

Yes that shit is crazy.. and upsetting.

the reason I don't think it's vandalism is I live in a really nice gated community, know the people that park near me, and it was the grill first AND then the mirror.

If it was a repeat offender, wouldn't this person come back? I don't know, I really don't know.

DunhamAll 03-21-2013 07:27 PM

This is not vandalism. Why would someone choose to damge something in such an odd and prohibitive way when a key,egg, brick, etc... Is so much faster AND gives the definitive message inherent to vandalism.

BradyT88 03-21-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DunhamAll (Post 6626622)
This is not vandalism. Why would someone choose to damge something in such an odd and prohibitive way when a key,egg, brick, etc... Is so much faster AND gives the definitive message inherent to vandalism.

To be more subtle about it:notsure:

JoeTacoma02 03-21-2013 07:38 PM

Sounds like you and this guy have the same problem
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...w-mirrors.html

xguntherc 03-21-2013 07:41 PM

Yup saw that.. I'm not parking in the covered area anymore by the windows, for now, and we'll see.

4WD 03-21-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xguntherc (Post 6626604)
Yes that shit is crazy.. and upsetting.

the reason I don't think it's vandalism is I live in a really nice gated community, know the people that park near me, and it was the grill first AND then the mirror.

If it was a repeat offender, wouldn't this person come back? I don't know, I really don't know.

C'mon now, you can't be wrapped up in that tight of a cocoon ,shit happens everywhere ;) , what I meant by taking a good hard look at where you're parking maybe sun is hitting some thick glass & reflecting onto your truck at the worst part of the day, for an extended time, maybe a stretch but....:confused::notsure:



Quote:

Originally Posted by DunhamAll (Post 6626622)
This is not vandalism. Why would someone choose to damge something in such an odd and prohibitive way when a key,egg, brick, etc... Is so much faster AND gives the definitive message inherent to vandalism.

I don't put anything past anyone, but if it did turn out to be someone fucking with it in what manner its done isn't the issue, the fact that they're doing it at all , is...

HomerTaco 03-21-2013 07:53 PM

I can tell you from experience that in order to make the OEM ABS plastic melt like that you need temperatures in excess of 300* at least.

Not too difficult for magnified sunlight to get to that temperature.

Focused properly it could easily do the damage pictured.:(

xguntherc 03-21-2013 08:10 PM

Yea 4WD I'm not naive and I don't really trust anyone, but I really don't think it's anyone doing this. Just how I feel.

I'm thinking it's either a chemical in the car wash I've recently been going to (3 times this month) or sun reflecting off of a window. As Homer said, it would have to get extremely hot and be concentrated..

If it is windows doing this. When it gets 110+ in Vegas in 2 months I can only imagine the damage that would do. It's only been 65-80 lately.

HomerTaco 03-21-2013 08:12 PM

Ever fry an ant with a magnifying glass?

That's what's happening to your truck.

DunhamAll 03-22-2013 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4WD (Post 6626795)
I don't put anything past anyone, but if it did turn out to be someone fucking with it in what manner its done isn't the issue, the fact that they're doing it at all , is...

You're missing the point. Vandalism carries a signature with it. Whether that be me spray painting an alleyway giving a message that this is my hood, or keying your car to say F you because we got in an argument. Vandalism, in general, usually carries a message. That message would be missed (re:lost) by melting the OP's mirrors. If it were an act, it doesn't carry the signature of vandalism as it leaves us all questioning what actually caused the problem. Yes, this is a simplified answer, but there is zero logic as to why someone would melt some mirrors over a deliberate and obvious action like throwing a brick through a window.

CNet did an article about energy efficient windows causing the melting of siding on adjacent houses in suburbia. there was also a story floating around about some lady threatening suit because her Prius melted in the same way as OP's from energy efficient windows. (i find this ironic that the go green initiatives are attacking each other!). I'm going with this as the cause, mainly because I can't find my tinfoil hat to put on and start blaming aliens, vandals, and other third parties.

StevoNB 03-22-2013 04:02 AM

I agree with HomerTaco. Just did a quick google search and there's a lot of reports of energy efficient windows melting vinyl siding and the occasional car part.


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