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Kenwood 9980HD, + camera, + ipod, + PAC SWI-RC

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by primer, May 29, 2011.

  1. May 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM
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    primer

    primer [OP] Well-Known Member

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    My install. Kenwood 9980HD, Rev Camera, Ipod integration.

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    Pardon the long post and all the pics. I wanted to include all the links and stuff I could remember so that if I need this info later I can find it. I’ll include some info I wish I’d had, but most of this has been reported before. I haven’t installed a stereo in about 2 decades. I’m happy with the outcome. For those worried about taking this on it is totally doable - if you are careful. I spend a lot of time finding all the wires and making sure I knew what I was doing before I actually put things together.

    As always this site (and TN) was a huge help.

    Taking the dash apart is easy. It’s detailed a lot of places. I removed my center console as well to install my ipod cables. The worst part was getting the clock/hazard component out of the stock face plate. There are small raised areas on all 4 sides and you just have to gently pry them all away at the same time.

    This was the teardown:

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    I was glad I bought these. Not absolutely necessary, but they were worth it in my opinion:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VYBLJ4
    I was able to pry things apart with a little more confidence the first time knowing these were less likely to tear up the dash than a screwdriver.



    I wanted Navigation and Bluetooth integration, but finally decided to go with the Kenwood 9980HD because of the OBD module.
    http://pacificstereo.com/kenwood-kn...s&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=google-products

    There are less expensive options. Maybe better ones, I don’t know, I’m not an expert. I’m still learning the Kenwood UI, but so far I’m happy with my choices.

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    I like having the OBD info on the HU instead of a scangauge or something. But I can’t say I used it as much as I thought.

    I got my HU here:
    http://www.wickedcas.com/product.php?productid=136&cat=28&page=1

    They were having a one day sale and I got a good price. I also got a break on the OBD module from them. The ipod cable, dash kit, SWI-RC, and wiring harness were full price. I had called them with a few questions and they were helpful. I would order the HU from them again at that price. Overall I think they were helpful and gave me a good deal. Shipped quick and items were packed well. I think their customer service and attention to detail could be better.

    The dash kit they sent was a JOKE. Only cost $15 but it was ugly as sin and an off brand. Someone else had returned it to them because the package was opened and then taped back up - in a really haphazard way.

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    It wasn’t worth the trouble or cost to me to send it back, but I called and told them I thought that was pretty lame. I called later because I was considering returning the SWI-RC and going with the other brand. I knew their official return policy, but they weren’t very accommodating.


    Because what they sent was so horrible I ordered the Scosche dash kit:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014KOA42

    I read good and bad reviews of both the Metra and Scosche kits. The fit was fine. It was hard for me to figure out exactly how it was supposed to go together.

    Basically the two black side brackets clip onto the faceplate, then the HU screws directly to the side brackets. Finally I used the trim piece from the Scosche kit. It all fit fine. I had to trial and error to figure out what to use.

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    These pieces were extra (they all came with the HU):

    IMG_1688_a5f8ca67d348b296f820fcaa4c88b90311349341.jpg

    Don’t forget to take the little clips off the stock radio and put them on the new face plate. This seemed obvious to me, but I’d read where people missed this. You can see one of the clips sitting on the stereo. It goes on the tab below:

    IMG_1712_580020e680da5732dfab2585a8150b7f02277ee2.jpg


    I used the Metra wiring harness - The big harness on top comes with the HU:

    IMG_1689_371ab84093fe82eeabb5390eb1c440241dd25afd.jpg

    Soldered and shrink wrapped almost all my connections first:

    IMG_1693_91520b5561251f8f43952f489953fb5301ec8fb5.jpg

    The parking brake wire tells the HU the brake is on so that you can watch a DVD and use all the phone/Nav/setup functions. If you are moving you’re locked out of some of that. Most people hook this wire up to ground - which means you have all the functions all the time. I’m not sure if that’s legal or not, but I wanted to hook it up as intended first.

    The parking brake wire is at the top of the brake assembly. It’s hard to understand this pic, but it shows the wire plugged in AFTER I tapped into it. Sorry for the poor focus.

    IMG_1708_6314fe8cab69e50b82a13241bc3b7c11b8da484d.jpg

    The green/yellow wire comes from the plug and my red tap is visable


    You can unplug the wire from the brake and then free it from some of the other wires it’s bundled with. Then it hangs low enough that it’s easier to tap into.

    IMG_1703_42ba0686ce106f206c99ed76835ed861c0b61e53.jpg

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    Once you’ve hooked things together just plug the wire back in and zip tie everything up out of the way.


    I ran the mic up to the top of my a-pillar. I’ve seen this elsewhere, but don’t have a link. If you look in the pic you can see my GPS antenna on the dash at the base of the pillar as well.

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    This is the Push to Talk button:

    IMG_1802_ff417a666d2286f509c31ed3d75bcc324783c7b2.jpg


    I wanted my ipod cables in my center console.

    This thread tells how to remove it:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/57895-center-console-removal-w-pics.html

    P2 Post #32 was my inspiration.

    I used this drill bit to open up one of the holes in the bottom of the compartment.

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    Then just cut the carpet to pull the cables through, and put it all back together.

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    This is my primary ipod cable:
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/Accessories/KCA-iP301V
    It has video input as well.

    For the second ipod input I just used a USB extension with a female end:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TH7GUU
    Then I used this retractable Ipod cord:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00295RB3S


    Steering wheel button integration was important to me, but was kind of a hassle. The PAC unit worked, but it surprises me how much trouble you have to go to. It’s not hard to set up, but there are a lot of steps and the instructions could be a little better.

    I used this DIY:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/au...-interface-2006-taco-4d-4wd-jbl-swi-jack.html

    It is helpful - but isn’t quite accurate for the newer SWI-RC. The resistor I used was a 560ohm and the programming instructions are a little different.

    IMG_1691_398a7df11032545f76a03deb2879e0a460a990dd.jpg

    See my links:

    SWI-RC:
    http://www.pac-audio.com/productDetails.aspx?ProductId=1016&CategoryID=29

    Instructions:
http://www.pac-audio.com/PACProductData/SWI-RC/1_Instructions/swi-rc_instructions_012711.pdf

    Portal for wiring instructions:
    http://www.pac-audio.com/SWI/

    This is the plug in the truck where you find the wires.

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    IMG_1682_2b1276d88c455217a5c1fcfb56ac0b793269c65f.jpg

    I was confused at first because I thought the plug should plug into the wiring harness somewhere - it doesn’t. Just tap into the wires and tuck the plug back with the rest of the wires..

    IMG_1710_5f012201cf2217b787b2b60757c81f262e5a4b7e.jpg


    I used this reverse camera:

    Reverse Cam:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002X8VF4C

    I wanted a switch that would allow me to turn it on anytime. This is the switch I used:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TQMU5C

    Some background on the switch method - identifies Rev wire:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/audio-video/157053-camera-help.html

    To work correctly I had to include the Reverse wire from the HU with the power wire to the camera from the switch. This diagram should make more sense:

    IMG_64d8c29f0c2a1e342371340225daa9205a28c4f4.jpg

    This means that whether you turn on the camera with the switch or by putting the truck in reverse the HU switches to the camera input.

    The switch has 3 connections on the back. The middle one should be power out to the camera and the rev wire together. One of the other two is from the Rev wire in the kick panel, the last one is from the red power wire to the HU. Interestingly the connection at the top of the switch is selected when the switch is flipped down and vice versa - so the connections are opposite of what I would expect.

    Works like a charm. If I have it in position 1 the camera comes on when I shift into rev. Position 2 is on anytime. Middle position is off.

    I put the switch in one of the switch blanks L of the steering wheel. Tight fit, but it went OK.

    IMG_1757_f50affd97a256b1f9274969a456d5290c00bde43.jpg


    These are some pics of how I got the camera wires out of the cab. These are from when I installed my dynalock. I ran the camera wires right with the dynalock wires.

    I removed the R kick panel and door sill and routed the wires under the door sill:

    P3040075_4c09753ac6283d6009e793fc55bc49a3e8d65620.jpg

    Then I ran them out through this plug in the body under the passengers seat:

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    These pics are of the dynalock wires, but I just ran the camera wires through with them:

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    P3040097_e5727760680db3ea64089c9f2449cf4ba81e553d.jpg

    Then I just zip tied the wires to the harness running back to the back of the truck.


    That's it...

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  2. May 29, 2011 at 11:30 AM
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    seksilumpia

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    nice work and good pics. i want to get a double din soon and i will use this as a reference
     
  3. May 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM
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    Nice write-up. This will come in handy when I get around to doing mine...
     
  4. May 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM
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    wow...nice work. maybe someday.
     
  5. May 30, 2011 at 12:24 AM
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    Nice work! This is the HU I've had my eye on. I really like the OBD II communication. What info does it tell you? Are there issues with the HU booting up?
     
  6. May 30, 2011 at 4:03 AM
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    Well thought out and executed.
     
  7. May 30, 2011 at 5:08 AM
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    Thanks guys.

    The KNA-EC100 OBD dongle is actually a rebranded Garmin product:
    http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/us/services/ecoRoute
    http://ces.cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10425380-269.html

    The Garmin product is a little less expensive. Some on the Kenwood forums have used it with good results. It seemed to me like there were more reports of problems connecting with the Garmin. Hard to say. I really hadn't made up my mind if I was gonna do the Garmin one, but I stumbled across a "today only" sale on the HU and KNA-EC100 at about 11PM one night. Pulled the trigger on both.

    I think it does about everything a scangauge does - but I don't know that for sure. You can check and clear codes with it and I was surprised how easy it was to customize which "gauges" you are viewing.

    Here is some discussion:
    http://www.kenwoodforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1827

    The boot-up is not a problem for me, but there is no doubt that the music does NOT start right away like it did on my stock HU.

    Some suggest this units processor is too small. I think it keeps up fine for my demands. I've been very happy with the Nav. This is the best Nav unit I've used. The screen is beautiful. Very sharp. Much better than OEM '11 4runner Nav.
     
  8. May 30, 2011 at 10:58 PM
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    Nice! Will the GPS let you plot multiple locations for a trip? For example, I leave my place but I have 7 destinations in one city. Will the unit let you enter each address as a "waypoint"?
     
  9. May 31, 2011 at 8:16 AM
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    I got my first 4x4 in 1972...haven't been without one! I still like Chrome!
    Very nice writeup, I am bookmarking this for use when I get a HU.
    Thanks!
     
  10. May 31, 2011 at 8:26 AM
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    OP correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it does.
     
  11. May 31, 2011 at 9:15 AM
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    Nicely done OP!
     
  12. May 31, 2011 at 11:19 AM
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    That is about a nice as I have seen. Great work........
     
  13. May 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM
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    Yup. It does.
     
  14. May 31, 2011 at 5:02 PM
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    was it a pain in the butthole?
     
  15. May 31, 2011 at 6:58 PM
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    Pain?

    What could be painful about this:

    IMG_1709_8f8d7a9064fb6a314984bb444521bb0e39e7d890.jpg

    Yes, it hurt. But I'm glad I did it. Learned a lot.

    I've read people say they installed a dbl DIN in 2-3 hr. I believe it - if you know what you're doing and don't do any extras.

    It took me all weekend. The reverse cam, SWI-RC, cables to the center console, and switches I installed increased the time a bit. I was careful and went slow. If I did it again it would go much faster.

    I'm thinking about speakers now - but I might pay to have that done...
    :eek:
     
  16. May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM
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    Bad ass!!! I'm going to be pulling the trigger on this in a few days. Does the Bluetooth OBD II thing give you instant fuel or A/F info?
     
  17. Jun 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM
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    It has instant MPG. Everything lags a second or two, but that doesn't bother me.

    Graphs instant MPG over last 5 hr. You can zoom into each individual hr or 10min period.
     
  18. Jun 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM
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    Nice!! How is the Nav working? I haven't been able to get any real world functionality info of the Nav.
     
  19. Jun 2, 2011 at 6:46 AM
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    Not sure I understand what you're asking. The Nav works, and it looks pretty. But I have to confess that I don't NEED nav most of the time. I guess I could let it guide me home from work, but does that count as "real world functionality"? I'm not sure. Sometime this summer I'm gonna go somewhere in my truck where I need it - then I'll know if it's really helpful I guess.
     
  20. Jun 3, 2011 at 11:13 AM
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    Does it lag? Is it accurate from where you have used it? Is the UI of the nav easy to navigate?
     

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