Why not a Taco Deisel in USA?

wow. that is one random post.

sure... that's why so many people drive prius'

 

I read the first page, got tired of reading and had one thing to chime in with. American's think diesels are dirty. They see the exhaust and think it's horrible for the environment. American's hate diesel (except a very very small percentage). I don't think it's worth the money to get it certified in the US, because it wont sell very well.

 

My parents have a new 2011 2500 GMC Duramax diesel. It weighs 7,000lbs and still gets 18mpg on the back roads, it also is rated at over 700ftlbs of torque and has all of the epa stuff. So diesels don't do too bad with all of the emissions stuff. Oh and it doesnt stink at all when it first starts up (even less then my tacoma) unless its burning out the particulate filter every 700 miles.

 

To bad it's 2wd. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/2546283954.html

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGYgtpIHaO4

 

You are ignorant. Those numbers were accurate for the previous generation power strokes, but the new ones get >20mpg. My dad's F350 6.0l long bed 4x4 gets 17-18mpg (the same as my Tacoma which probably weighs almost 1/2 as his truck)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu7KA-GzeOA

The bottom line is a diesel can easily be 40% more efficient, and the cost different between gas and diesel is less than 10%.

 

The price between gas and diesel is moot you have to figure cost per mile and with out a doubt a diesel will win, it will do a rock bottom difference of 30% better, by the way diesel in Canada is cheaper then regular. GM did an very good job of killing the diesel in the states, gone are the days of dirty noise diesels that explode at 12K They are now direct injected and computer controlled. I have driven a MB V6 3L turbo diesel in a small class A motor home amazing power 450+ torque and better then 15 MPG. The cost of a new diesel is greater and if you don't put a lot of miles on your car/truck it's not for you but it will last 400K or more before an overhaul and they love to be driven.

 

One day the USA will get diesels... I spend a lot of time in the UK and have driven many types of diesels. They are quick, clean and 40+mpg.... VW is getting into the diesels with several vehicles with diesels.
I expect many military folks have driven the (Tacoma) diesel over seas.....
Why we dont have them in the USA, EPA and ignorance.

 

My opinions in bold.....

 

VW is number one in diesel sales world wide all most every VW wagon sold in the US is diesel. Europe and Japan have had diesels for ever reason? fuel economy. High compression engines have high NOX emissions this is the deal with the EPA gas engines can pass with a few tricks because of the lower compression but it's a bit more complex with the diesels the real reason for the lack of small diesels in the US is customer perception of niosey stinky slow diesels and they won't buy them. The not so big 3 advertise 400 HP trucks wonder how that does on fuel? Give me a high torque diesel I don't care about HP figures and racing I pull things it's a truck remember. Right now the fastest GP car out there is an Audi TDI yes a diesel race car. It maybe a long wait but we'll see diesels in north America and if the US does not pull their thumb out they maybe from China.

 

Modern Toyota diesel engines are very different from the old diesel engines you all remember. maintenance cost due to turbo charger, injectors, cylinder head, etc. start showing up as early as 100,000 miles. In my country you can by diesel hilux or 150,000 miles used tacoma. I will always buy the tacoma because repairing costs of modern diesel engine are really are so high that the economy you get on MPG will be lost on repairing costs.

 

A diesel engine option only costs about 8% more than the base price of a vehicle.

Well, it's only about 8% more in Europe. When sold in the United States, the lowest cost diesel versions of the same vehicle cost 40% more than the base price of the car.

 

Has anyone seen the 1.6L TDI diesel offered in the new Audi A1, and various VW cars? making about 70 MPG, and are not imported to the US.... thank you big government.....

 

you are correct. the claim is 74.3 MPG.

 

http://www.motorward.com/2011/06/74mpg-audi-a1-1-6-tdi-for-uk/

 

Don't know how true it is. Nor do I understand the emission numbers - maybe someone could enlighten us as to how close their published mileage numbers generally are (I'd be they're not that far off, at least in the high 60's). I'd think the UK would be pretty strict about that kind of stuff. Not sure how far the emissions are from being legal here. Would be interesting to know.

 

As it should????


Diesel is a by-product of gasoline, its similar to a Kerosene (like Jet Fuel). Sure it stores more power in a molecular sense. But it should be cheaper than gas, as it was until they came up with all the new EPA standards.

I actually think Jet-A is cheaper than Diesel right now. Which is crazy.
I used to run Avgas (100 lowlead) in my '67 mustang, and the new Diesel powered Cessna runs off of Jet-A. I'm curious if it would work in a newer electronically controlled diesel.

In Europe the reason why diesel is so popular is that its cheaper than gasoline, and its more readily available in third-world countries were the Diesel Hilux is sold.

 

Mind you they do but you are talking about a country where a pint of beer is 22 OZ. More often they measure it in liters per 100KM. My TDI gets 50+ MPG no matter how hard I drive it. Hyper milers have done as well as 90+ MPG with the VW 1.3L Lupo (sorry none in north America).

 

Yes jet A works fine in a diesel car/truck but don't let them catch you using it (no road tax). Diesel is also is cheaper in Canada. A large portion of US diesel is exported and I guess other countries also realize trucks that bring us goods and food run on diesel. Diesel is the exact same thing as #2 heating oil also so there is a finite amount you can crack from crude. The main reason for diesel power overseas is not because it's cheaper is because the economy is a good 30% + greater then a gas engine of the same displacement.