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Better clutch for 2TR

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by allmotorrex, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. Dec 31, 2014 at 1:34 PM
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    my stock one is slipping and ill end up replacing mine probably towards spring. Which lce would you say for 32" e tires and is in 4wd 10% of the time. Pro or Dual?
     
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  2. Dec 31, 2014 at 2:14 PM
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    Pro is perfect for that. 32s are small tires and with you sticking with stock gears, there won't be any added torque so you will be fine when offroading as well. Dual is overkill for just a size up in tires. Now you could get it and it won't "hurt" anything but it will be harder to drive everyday.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2015 at 1:37 PM
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    Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub'd
     
  4. Mar 13, 2015 at 9:59 AM
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    Quick question on the write up, would it be basically the same to install on a 4L ?
     
  5. Mar 13, 2015 at 10:34 AM
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    I don't see why not. All the components are the same anyway. The things you have to remove will be the same. You may just encounter something like a different number of trans mounting bolts or a different number/arrangement of plugs. Stuff like that. But as far as the clutch/trans compoents go, the process and parts will be the same
     
  6. Mar 13, 2015 at 10:36 AM
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    Great, planning on a rebuild soon. Thanks for write up!
     
  7. Mar 13, 2015 at 11:55 AM
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    Got my LCE Pro Clutch kit yesterday :spy: Do you know where to take a flywheel to get resurfaced? Also what would be a good price?
     
  8. Mar 13, 2015 at 11:59 AM
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    I assumed any machine shop? It just needs to be flat and true right? Someone let me know if I'm being dumb lol
     
  9. Mar 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM
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    Machine shop, eh? I've heard of some people scuffing with sand paper. I know mine is gonna have some big hot spots though...
     
  10. Mar 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM
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    Sand paper sounds like a lot cheaper alternative... hmm
     
  11. Mar 13, 2015 at 12:14 PM
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    Yeah but I was under the impression you can only do that if it is good shape...
     
  12. Mar 13, 2015 at 12:21 PM
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    By the feel of my clutch then, I'd say not sand paper. At least for me :c
     
  13. Mar 13, 2015 at 1:49 PM
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    Find a mom and pop shop. Those seem to be the best ones. There a Toyota/nissa shop in Memphis I go to for random stuff like flywheel resurfacing. They are a small shop that rebuilds motors, trans, diffs, etc ..... and charged me $25 to have my flywheel done. Dont use sand paper. Resurfacing a flywheel is like getting rotors turned. They take off a very small layer of metal until the surface is perfectly even again
     
  14. Mar 13, 2015 at 3:23 PM
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    Ok will do :) basically you just need someone with a metal shop and who knows how to use a lathe
     
  15. Mar 13, 2015 at 7:41 PM
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    Exactly
     
  16. Mar 26, 2015 at 8:21 PM
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    I've seen some use an air drill with a 3m wheeled pad on it,
    Rough it up and clean it off and install it.

    However I think they do that to leave it bolted onto the crank, lol...

    Question for you guys that have been into your clutch/flywheel area. Does the factory flywheel have a lot of surface to work with?

    I am coming from the world of Civics and such, I worked at a dealer a while back for over a century in the service dept. We almost always ended up replacing flywheels with clutch assemblies. Only once in a while would the flywheel look ok enough to have it
    resurfaced at the local Car-Quest.
     
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  17. Mar 27, 2015 at 8:10 AM
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    Yeah I'm kinda surprised on the size of the clutch and flywheel. Honda clutches/flywheels are tiny. I just moved 2 months ago and cleaned out my garage and I had like 5 Honda clutches laying around from my crx racing days. Haha but I think one of our flywheels would have to be complete trash before getting a new one. There's plenty of material on that thing. Hell it weighs like #47. Haha
     
  18. Mar 31, 2015 at 3:15 PM
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    I just drove home after having my Centerforce clutch installed, same one as allmotorrex. That clutch grabs like nothing I've ever seen, going to take me awhile to get used to it. I can't see this clutch ever slipping.

    I took a good look at the old clutch, pretty ugly. The flywheel side of the clutch plate was fine and not much wear, the flywheel had no burn marks either.

    The clutch side however was another story. There were blue burn marks all over the pressure plate and the plate itself was worn pretty good.

    And this was at 40k. Going to be nice not to have to baby the vehicle on the freeway ramp.
     
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