Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Garage > 4 Cylinder

Notices

Synthetic oil in 2.7L?

Reply
 
Referenced Products Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-09-2012, 08:25 PM   #41
Member
EEKANOUSE is on a distinguished road
Name: will
Joined: Nov 2012, #91348
Location: PA
Gender: Male
Posts: 49
EEKANOUSE's Tacoma Gallery
Correct if you use synthetic in it then it better be 0-20
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 08:52 PM   #42
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,555
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by EEKANOUSE View Post
Correct if you use synthetic in it then it better be 0-20
Any weight from 0w20 to 5w30 is acceptable depending on usage and primary ambient temperatures, depending on the year.
For my 2005, 2006, and interestingly, 2010, it is acceptable to run 5w30 in the 2.7. The 4.0 requires 5w30 or 5w20 up to 2010. 2010-2012, 0w20 is also acceptable.


There is no "better be" about any weight and synthetic.
Synthetic ALLOWS alternative weights to be used, such as 0w20, or for Diesel trucks, 5w40, where conventional oil mandates 5w20 or 15w40 because of the viscosity improvers required would result in an oil that could not hold up for 5000 miles.
But if you run synthetic, you can run 0w20, 5w20, or if your spec allows for it, 5w30.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 04:28 PM   #43
Senior Member
texascolt45 will become famous soon enough
Name: mike
Joined: Dec 2012, #93182
Location: groves texas
Gender: Male
Posts: 137
texascolt45's Tacoma Gallery
ive run 5w/20 in my last 2 trucks when new.after 100,00 miles i switch to 10w/30.theres actually bulk oil distributors here close that will sell you a 32 gallon drum of mobil 1.kinda pricey but you got oil for 2 cars forever.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 08:41 PM   #44
Senior Member
808tacomas is on a distinguished road
Name: kingrob
Joined: Aug 2011, #62088
Location: oahu
Gender: Male
Posts: 102
808tacomas's Tacoma Gallery
mobil 1 0w20 is the way to go
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 09:33 PM   #45
Understand the Voice Within
91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold
 
91r100gs's Avatar
Name: Dan
Joined: Apr 2008, #6100
Location: Kansas City area
Gender: Male
Posts: 634
91r100gs's Tacoma Gallery
Heck I am even going to try 10w-30 Maxlife Full Syn this summer. Amazon screwed up and sent it instead of 5w-30. They sent the replacement 5w-30 no charge and said to dispose of the 10w-30 as I please. I doubt if it blows up if I use it in my truck in the summer. Probably put some in my lawn mower, as it specs 10w-30. It has a great NOACK rating.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 08:05 AM   #46
Senior Member
boatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shedboatswain is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
boatswain's Avatar
Navy: boat coxswain,USS SIMON LAKE AS-33
Name: carl
Joined: Jan 2011, #48621
Location: palmerton,PA.
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,553
boatswain's Tacoma Gallery
I switched to synthetic at around 186,000, on a 95 Tacoma 2.7. My neighbor bought it at 227,000 mi. No problems at all after switching to the syn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 05:16 AM   #47
Senior Member
alexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud of
Name: Eric
Joined: Nov 2010, #46454
Location: Buffalo New York
Gender: Male
Posts: 615
alexander323bc's Tacoma Gallery
My service plan just ended and I will be chaning my own oil. I am going to with mobile 1 and either a filter from the dealer or a mobile 1 filter depending on which one is easier to get my hands on. Are most of you guys changing the gasket on the bolt that goes into the oil pan? I believe that's what the gasket is they are talking about in the guide. I never did that with my 4 runner, I guess I never thought about it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 07:40 AM   #48
Senior Member
DGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shedDGXR is one of the sharper tools in the shed
Name: Friend
Joined: Sep 2009, #22094
Location: Sacramento, CA
Gender: Male
Posts: 866
DGXR's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexander323bc View Post
My service plan just ended and I will be chaning my own oil. I am going to with mobile 1 and either a filter from the dealer or a mobile 1 filter depending on which one is easier to get my hands on. Are most of you guys changing the gasket on the bolt that goes into the oil pan? I believe that's what the gasket is they are talking about in the guide. I never did that with my 4 runner, I guess I never thought about it.
Many here at TW do replace the oil plug gasket during an oil change, but not all. I don't replace the one in my 2006 Tacoma, and I have never replaced it in any of my other vehicles (AMC, Ford, Ford, Ford, Mazda) and I have *never* had a leaky plug. I am careful not to under- or over-tighten, which may or may not have anything to do with my good experience, I don't know. But I do know those gaskets are extremely inexpensive, so if you feel better replacing it, then do it and drive happy. If you are at the dealer anyway to buy a filter, just ask them for some plug gaskets and they might give you a handful for free, I've heard this from several TW users -- the dealers sometimes just give 'em away.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 07:44 AM   #49
Senior Member
medusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nice
Name: Jonathan
Joined: Oct 2011, #65457
Location: Morgantown, WV
Gender: Male
Posts: 183
medusa1066's Tacoma Gallery
Fumoto Valve
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 10:42 AM   #50
Senior Member
alexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud of
Name: Eric
Joined: Nov 2010, #46454
Location: Buffalo New York
Gender: Male
Posts: 615
alexander323bc's Tacoma Gallery
Thanks for the reply! Medusa are you using that now? its not a little bit of overkill?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 11:01 AM   #52
Senior Member
medusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nice
Name: Jonathan
Joined: Oct 2011, #65457
Location: Morgantown, WV
Gender: Male
Posts: 183
medusa1066's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexander323bc View Post
Thanks for the reply! Medusa are you using that now? its not a little bit of overkill?
Overkill is up for debate . It makes the process very clean, even more convenient. Never have to worry about a crush washer. I like it, just my opinion.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 08:18 PM   #53
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,555
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by medusa1066 View Post
Overkill is up for debate . It makes the process very clean, even more convenient. Never have to worry about a crush washer. I like it, just my opinion.
+1

Place pan under engine, open valve, have a beer or two while cleaning up the engine compartment, close the valve, replace the filter, refill, and done.


M1 filter is one of the better filters available, but the OEM filter can be had for around $4/filter from Camelback, Titus-Will, or Toyota of Dallas.
There's no reason not to run OEM. It is better than the Mobil-1 filter.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 05:43 AM   #54
Senior Member
Rackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to behold
Name: Kevin
Joined: May 2012, #78628
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Male
Posts: 377
Rackster's Tacoma Gallery
Seconding the motion

Quote:
Originally Posted by 05silvertacoma View Post
I switched to Amsoil 5W30 and a Purolator Gold Filter #20195 five years ago, I noticed my engine reving to 2200 rpm on starting with 'Dino oil'. It's common knowledge that the most wear comes at start up. One solution is to get a 'engine pre lube kit', I wasn't too keen about what I found and deceided to try full synthetic oil. The rpm on cold start is now 18-1900. I lucked out on the brand I chose, it was on sale and has turned out to be an excellent choice. I've had the used oil tested at 8,000 and 15,000 miles with no contamination (from gasoline, coolant or any metals) I'm going 15,000 between changes with a filter change at 7,500 miles. Amsoil makes a 7,500, 25,000 and 35,000 mile oils (between changes). I listen to a Saturday morning auto repair show on am radio and they say Redline, Royal Purple and Amsoil are all ester based oils. Some guys on this site and some other Toyota enthusiast sites like Mobile 1 and their oil filter. I'd stay away from any 'synthetic blends'- why? Because there are no standards of how much synthetic oil (a teaspoon or ??) and the quality of the base stock are huge unknowns. Testing is inexpensive and how else will you know how well the oil (and more importantly) and the engine are holding up? The choice is yours, do your homework, use a quality oil filter, keep the air filter changed and get at least one used oil test. You can easily go 7,000 or more miles with a quality synthetic. I'm just sharing my experience with you, I'm not an Amsoil dealer-good luck on your choice. The oil change places and the dealerships can't upsell you if you don't come in every 4,000 miles.
Good information and advice. I also recommend visiting Bobistheoilguy to read up on all things 'oil'. Lots of folks out there getting ripped off by dealers and quick lube shops who replace dino oil with synthetics but keep the interval the same. Having your oil tested is key to learning what your interval might be. In the test reports I've seen, test facilities sometimes offer clues as to what your oil change interval might be. This is why it's important to test more than once in a step process to know where contaminants are reaching hazardous/corrosive levels and where the oil properties are broken down to a point you risk engine wear or damage.

Changing more frequently than you need to is only robbing you of your hard earned dollars. But without the test results, you are better off following the manufacturer's recommend change interval and specified oil. Also check with your dealer: some have revised what oil can be used safely in your engine as newly developed oils not available when your Tacoma was born might be sanctioned for use. Good luck!!

PS - Rich's point on the filter selection is spot on as well. Folks sometimes are unaware that the aftermarket design is substandard and/or more expensive without offering any benefit (or possibly detracting from effectiveness). Don't buy on pricetag assuming that more expensive equates to 'better'. Also, buy in bulk to save money or leverage a sale/coupon if possible. After doing your research, select the filter you are most comfortable with.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 02:42 PM   #55
Senior Member
george3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shedgeorge3 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
Joined: Jun 2008, #7173
Location: new jersey
Posts: 2,981
george3's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoggyDesigns View Post
Just remember after you switch to synth, u cant switch back
Based on what prey tell ? Don't have any idea why you would switch back but don't know any reason why you couldn't.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 03:11 PM   #56
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,555
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by george3 View Post
Based on what prey tell ? Don't have any idea why you would switch back but don't know any reason why you couldn't.
Absolutely no reason you can't switch back, and you quoted a post from 18 months ago.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2013, 06:07 AM   #57
Senior Member
alexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud ofalexander323bc has much to be proud of
Name: Eric
Joined: Nov 2010, #46454
Location: Buffalo New York
Gender: Male
Posts: 615
alexander323bc's Tacoma Gallery
Thanks for the feedback medusa, I am looking at the valve more now . I was a little worried with 0-20w when its 0 out. Not joking literally 0 and the truck ran just fine
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 07:02 AM   #58
Senior Member
medusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nicemedusa1066 is just really nice
Name: Jonathan
Joined: Oct 2011, #65457
Location: Morgantown, WV
Gender: Male
Posts: 183
medusa1066's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexander323bc View Post
Thanks for the feedback medusa, I am looking at the valve more now . I was a little worried with 0-20w when its 0 out. Not joking literally 0 and the truck ran just fine
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 08:17 AM   #59
Junior Member
Mike84 is on a distinguished road
Name: Mike
Joined: Feb 2013, #97055
Location: Mobile Alabama
Gender: Male
Posts: 18
Mike84's Tacoma Gallery
My 2012 came with synthetic and when I brought it in for the 5k service they didn't change the oil they told me it was due at 10k I had them change it regardless and it was also synthetic. I just can't do a 10k oil change... Maybe I am throwing money out I used to do 5k intervals with my 09 and it was Dino oil.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 12:59 PM   #60
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,555
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike84 View Post
My 2012 came with synthetic and when I brought it in for the 5k service they didn't change the oil they told me it was due at 10k I had them change it regardless and it was also synthetic. I just can't do a 10k oil change... Maybe I am throwing money out I used to do 5k intervals with my 09 and it was Dino oil.
Prior to 2003/2004/2005, Toyota had both 5000 mile and 7500 mile recommended service intervals.

Around 2003 or so, as they "facelifted" the dash displays on various models, they added the "Maintenance Required" light, and they eliminated the 7500 mile service interval.

My 2003 Tundra had 7500/5000 mile intervals, my wife's '04 Rav4 has the idiot light and only 5k intervals.

And these intervals were predicated on conventional oil. I personally go with 5k intervals and full synthetic because I feel that it is cheap insurance, but honestly, 10k is not a problem on a quality synthetic and the Toyota OEM filter.
Repeated tests with used oil analysis show that the TBN (additive package) holds up fine to about 12k.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Products Discussed in this Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Conventional Oil or Synthetic oil ??? what should I use ??? Uncelou1980 New Members 20 09-13-2012 08:13 AM
Synthetic oil dmhart32538 2nd Gen. Tacomas 31 10-14-2011 08:41 AM
Synthetic Oil vs. Standard Motor Oil 03coma Technical Chat 11 10-13-2010 11:59 PM
Changed oil from factory oil to Pennzoil synthetic; Fuel mileage from 16 to 19.9!!! lightfire 2nd Gen. Tacomas 9 01-19-2010 07:34 PM
Synthetic/non-synthetic gear oil jmazur Technical Chat 6 01-15-2010 08:11 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.