Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Garage > 4 Cylinder

Notices

4 Bangin, Fuel Sippin, Full Tank Challenge!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-09-2013, 07:21 PM   #1101
Senior Member
Mr. Pick is on a distinguished road
 
Mr. Pick's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2012, #81609
Location: Middle TN
Gender: Male
Posts: 123
Mr. Pick's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91r100gs View Post
Relax guys, I never fill till I see fuel in the neck. The station I go to 95% of the time is on level ground and has a really sensitive shut off sensors. Just don't like going to the gas station, so I fill'er up.
Same here.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 08:02 PM   #1102
Senior Member
MikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
MikeCB600F's Avatar
Name: Mike
Joined: Aug 2012, #84687
Location: Plainfield, IL.
Gender: Male
Posts: 358
MikeCB600F's Tacoma Gallery
Did this on my way home from Bloomington IL. today. I filled up in Bloomington because the price was on average 45 cents a gallon cheeper. Drove I-55 all the way home staying around 65 mph and 2000 rpms. At one point the ultra guage indicated 29MPG before I exit the interstate and was caught at several lights.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 08:19 PM   #1103
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 04:01 AM   #1104
Senior Member
Rackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to beholdRackster is a splendid one to behold
Name: Kevin
Joined: May 2012, #78628
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Male
Posts: 377
Rackster's Tacoma Gallery
Nice stretch Mike!! Those darned traffic lights can tarnish a fine run but it beats getting broadsided.

I'm with Rich - be careful not to mess up the evap system. It usually gets expensive chasing codes and if the canister goes on our trucks, expect a $300 bill. For a couple dollars' worth of fuel and 10 mile extended range, probably not worth the risk.

I've seen that various stations and angle at fueling can differ about a half gallon or so, but over a tank, the run rate isn't affected much. Normal variation so over the whole of your tracking your truck's FE, not noticeable.

Good luck on your FE challenges!
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 06:14 AM   #1105
Senior Member
MikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
MikeCB600F's Avatar
Name: Mike
Joined: Aug 2012, #84687
Location: Plainfield, IL.
Gender: Male
Posts: 358
MikeCB600F's Tacoma Gallery
I wish I had a 5 speed. The ultra guage and odo were only off a tenth of a mile. Now I get to watch the MPG drop over the next 200 miles
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 01:37 PM   #1106
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Down to a 1/4 tank. Picked up a nice 60 mile round trip for work that averaged 37.4 mpg. 500.4 and it was just a hair over 1/4. Wow my cheapo phone camera really makes that dash look much dirtier than it is?

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2013, 02:06 PM   #1107
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Had to post this trip since I have never had a trip as good as this before to and from Denver. 30 mile one way down to Whisler Bearing to get some bearings for a gearbox on the bottling line. On the way down 37.0 mpg. On the way back 46.2 mpg. Average 41.7 mpg. Stacks of empty kegs about to be filled with Avery IPA in the background. Lot's of construction so 55 or less and just the right amount of congestion so that I had the engine off a lot more than a typical Denver drive.

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2013, 11:24 PM   #1108
Junior Member
Stickit is on a distinguished road
Name: Lance
Joined: Nov 2012, #91052
Location: San Diego
Gender: Male
Posts: 7
Stickit's Tacoma Gallery
Don't Get It

I am not too sure what kind of modifications you guys have all made, if any, but I NEVER get any gas mileage EVEN CLOSE to what you are getting. Truck is waxed, tires are at 40 p.s.i., did the "cold air intake" with the deck plate mod, synthetic oil, 2" lift, 4x2, 2.4 L, 5 speed, manual trans, 2003 Tacoma. I coast ALL the time pulling her out of gear, down hills, to red lights, stop signs, on the freeway down hill, etc., etc.. I average 65 on the freeway and 40 in the city on the road.

The BEST tank I have had, even taking into consideration the larger tires, divide mileage by 0.92, is 24.1 mpg. I average 18 in the winter and the numbers are tracking to 21 based on summer temperatures.

I do not wind out the engine, second toyota I have owned. In third gear by 25, typically shift at 2000 rpm.

WHAT THE HELL?

27 mpg, I am almost inclined to say BS, but I know others are seeing it. I still have not reached 300 miles for a tank of gas. My light comes on at roughly 11.5 gallons.

I am at the fu*#ing gas station every 240 miles, 11 - 12 gallons of gas please.

By the way, without the correction for the tires, if I only do my calculations with the odo, I get 16.9 - 19 mpg. I know that the odo is off based on the circumference of the tire and the speedo, by 0.92... so when I am driving 63 by speedo, it is actually 70. The tires are not big either, I can get the size if needed, but the correction accounts for tire size for sure.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2013, 11:31 PM   #1109
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,537
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
Keep in mind that the 2nd Gen has a 21 gallon tank, so when you see 400 and 500 miles per tank, we are running around 4 gallons more than you are.

Also, those running in excess of 26/28 are generally "hypermileing" which involves more extreme methods, very useful on a manual transmission, such as shutting the engine off when rolling down hill. Don't try it with an automatic, you'll kill it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2013, 06:29 AM   #1110
Senior Member
MikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shedMikeCB600F is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
MikeCB600F's Avatar
Name: Mike
Joined: Aug 2012, #84687
Location: Plainfield, IL.
Gender: Male
Posts: 358
MikeCB600F's Tacoma Gallery
Do you still have the factory gear ratio? Usually the speedo will indicate higher than actual speed.

The only mod I did was a tonneau cover, but I am not sure if it does help the aerodynamics to improve MPG. I did a 100 mile trip last weekend and had an indicated 28.8 MPG. Since then, my Ultra Guage is down to 25.7 MPG.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2013, 12:26 PM   #1111
Member
Taco Pete626 is on a distinguished road
Name: Peter
Joined: Dec 2012, #94116
Location: Southern California
Gender: Male
Posts: 86
Taco Pete626's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stickit View Post
I am not too sure what kind of modifications you guys have all made, if any, but I NEVER get any gas mileage EVEN CLOSE to what you are getting. Truck is waxed, tires are at 40 p.s.i., did the "cold air intake" with the deck plate mod, synthetic oil, 2" lift, 4x2, 2.4 L, 5 speed, manual trans, 2003 Tacoma. I coast ALL the time pulling her out of gear, down hills, to red lights, stop signs, on the freeway down hill, etc., etc.. I average 65 on the freeway and 40 in the city on the road.

The BEST tank I have had, even taking into consideration the larger tires, divide mileage by 0.92, is 24.1 mpg. I average 18 in the winter and the numbers are tracking to 21 based on summer temperatures.

I do not wind out the engine, second toyota I have owned. In third gear by 25, typically shift at 2000 rpm.

WHAT THE HELL?

27 mpg, I am almost inclined to say BS, but I know others are seeing it. I still have not reached 300 miles for a tank of gas. My light comes on at roughly 11.5 gallons.

I am at the fu*#ing gas station every 240 miles, 11 - 12 gallons of gas please.

By the way, without the correction for the tires, if I only do my calculations with the odo, I get 16.9 - 19 mpg. I know that the odo is off based on the circumference of the tire and the speedo, by 0.92... so when I am driving 63 by speedo, it is actually 70. The tires are not big either, I can get the size if needed, but the correction accounts for tire size for sure.
Keep in mind that the 2.7L engine used in 2005+ tacomas have a new engine with fancy variable valve timing and throttle by wire. I am able to get 26+ mpg without hypermilling, just regular driving.

What really causes my truck to waste a lot of gas are:
- cold morning starts
- lots of short trips
- hard acceleration/deceleration
- stop and go traffic

My truck is mainly used for work, carrying about 200-300 lbs of gear in back with tonneau cover. 34-35 psi in the tires. Use Arco fuel. My commute is mostly highway at 70 mph. I do my best to keep my speeds constant, especially when driving in the city. This is important. I am not sure if the valvetrain in the Tacoma does this, but in some engines with throttle by wire and valve timing, when engine is under cruise, the throttle is wide open and the amount of air is regulated completely by valve timing. This greatly reduces pumping losses and increases mpg.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2013, 04:40 PM   #1112
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich91710 View Post
Keep in mind that the 2nd Gen has a 21 gallon tank, so when you see 400 and 500 miles per tank, we are running around 4 gallons more than you are.

Also, those running in excess of 26/28 are generally "hypermileing" which involves more extreme methods, very useful on a manual transmission, such as shutting the engine off when rolling down hill. Don't try it with an automatic, you'll kill it.
It isn't only "rolling down hill", sure that is a great time to shut the engine off, but frequently it is just rolling forward with traffic toward a red light. Any incline helps, but off ramps work, approaching a turn, pulling into parking lots, work, home, etc.

I'll be gassing up later tonight, first 700+ tank in awhile, I'm loving the warm/hot weather.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2013, 07:46 PM   #1113
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Best tank since 2008.

701.3 miles on 19.306 gallons for 36.3 MPG.

180 miles driving to Denver and back 3 times really helped.

Only $0.40 Safeway discount, so $3.229.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2013, 04:46 AM   #1114
Understand the Voice Within
91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold
 
91r100gs's Avatar
Name: Dan
Joined: Apr 2008, #6100
Location: Kansas City area
Gender: Male
Posts: 636
91r100gs's Tacoma Gallery
Fantastic tank.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2013, 06:16 AM   #1115
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91r100gs View Post
Fantastic tank.
Thanks, weird as it seems I think the Michelin Rain-x tires have taken over 10-15K to break-in, I've had them since late 2009 and the first 3 years they sucked for coasting, but now they finally seem to have better rolling resistance like they advertised when I bought them.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2013, 04:13 PM   #1116
Understand the Voice Within
91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold91r100gs is a splendid one to behold
 
91r100gs's Avatar
Name: Dan
Joined: Apr 2008, #6100
Location: Kansas City area
Gender: Male
Posts: 636
91r100gs's Tacoma Gallery
Worthy,

Will be needing new tires soon, probably this fall or early winter. The Firestone LE OEM's have been great. They have never needed rebalancing and have worn perfect. Only rotated 3 times at 15 to 18K intervals. I am considering the new Destination LE 2. Read in a Tire Rack review that they are supposed to have 15% less rolling resistance, although I can not find that info on Firestone's website. They are getting great reviews and are reasonably priced. During my 3.5 miles trip to and from work I am coasting in gear about 1/4 of the time, so I am looking for LRR tires. The Tire Rack does not list them as LRR. My Firestone store is horrible, arrogant and all they care about is upsells, with slow service. Thought about Michelin's but they are a lot higher, and previous Michelin purchases have been so-so experiences.

Again congrats on the great tank.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2013, 04:49 PM   #1117
Senior Member
iroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
iroh's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2011, #65439
Location: michigander
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,213
iroh's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stickit View Post
I am not too sure what kind of modifications you guys have all made, if any, but I NEVER get any gas mileage EVEN CLOSE to what you are getting.
Well, I technically have three:
-front mudflaps gone when I bought it
-tonneau cover, which may or may not help
-about a 50% grill block that lets the engine warm up fast, and moves more air over the truck rather than into the engine bay and down. I can run this even in summer because I don't have to cool an auto tranny and don't climb mountains or tow big trailers. Highest coolant temp I've seen thus far is 197F running the AC on a 90 degree day. Once it gets up to 100 degrees out I'll probably see water temps a little north of 200.

In addition to the other benefits mentioned in other posts, the 2nd gen 4 cylinders can also use the benefits of 0w20 synthetic oil, and 09+ come with 75w85 in the differential(s).
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2013, 04:53 PM   #1118
Senior Member
worthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shedworthywads is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
worthywads's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2011, #58841
Location: Peoples Republic of Boulder
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,198
worthywads's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91r100gs View Post
Worthy,

Will be needing new tires soon, probably this fall or early winter. The Firestone LE OEM's have been great. They have never needed rebalancing and have worn perfect. Only rotated 3 times at 15 to 18K intervals. I am considering the new Destination LE 2. Read in a Tire Rack review that they are supposed to have 15% less rolling resistance, although I can not find that info on Firestone's website. They are getting great reviews and are reasonably priced. During my 3.5 miles trip to and from work I am coasting in gear about 1/4 of the time, so I am looking for LRR tires. The Tire Rack does not list them as LRR. My Firestone store is horrible, arrogant and all they care about is upsells, with slow service. Thought about Michelin's but they are a lot higher, and previous Michelin purchases have been so-so experiences.

Again congrats on the great tank.
I agree, I'm comparing the Michelins to the Firestone OEM and the Michelins are just now getting close to the stock tires. I only got 46K out of the Firestones, not sure what they are rated for. Mine wore pretty evenly even at 45psi.

The Michelins are 90K tires, there should be some LRR improvements before I need another set, it won't be these again.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 06:13 PM   #1119
Senior Member
iroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shediroh is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
iroh's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2011, #65439
Location: michigander
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,213
iroh's Tacoma Gallery
You know what, I think I might be brave enough to push this 4x4 to 500 miles this summer. I'll do it with a jerry can in the bed, just in case.

This one was 26.5 mpg.

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 06:46 PM   #1120
Senior Member
Rich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shedRich91710 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Rich91710's Avatar
Name: Rich
Joined: Feb 2012, #73470
Location: Los Angeles
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,537
Rich91710's Tacoma Gallery
That's awesome, but still a little close to push 500. Keep in mind that the 514 on 21.19, that was 24.3, but it was a matter of being broke the day before payday so I dropped a $20 in the tank and added the two together for the fuelly entry. The numbers are correct, just split between two purchases.

500 miles at 25mpg is 20 gallons. That's cutting it way too close for my comfort, even with a calibrated scangauge.
There's just no reason to run the tank that low. I think a more appropriate title for this thread would be "4 Bangin, Fuel Sippin, MPG Challenge!"
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how many miles does your 4 banger get on one full tank?? 04prerunner 4 Cylinder 213 04-22-2014 05:20 AM
How many miles do you get with a full tank??? 08Tacoma 2nd Gen. Tacomas 381 09-30-2013 04:10 AM
New 2012 - Weird Sound Coming From Fuel Tank (Fuel Pump) When Off Hotwire 2nd Gen. Tacomas 2 12-10-2011 06:07 PM
WTB: propane tank, empty or full tacomaparty Buy / Sell / Trade - Other 10 01-04-2010 06:01 PM
First Full Tank irishpride42 2nd Gen. Tacomas 13 10-17-2008 04:02 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.