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Old 11-05-2013, 06:19 PM   #1221
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Just did a fill up of 12.88 gallons and drove 290 miles which comes out to 22.5 MPG It was all 3.5 mile short trip city driving, except for 80 miles of urban interstate.
Not too bad considering the dozens of short trips.
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WW is an enigma...cold weather, big hills (mountains) and crappy fuel doesn't seem to bother him. We swear he savors these things just to make us all feel bad!!

Good luck!
Hey now, you can easily see from this graph that I take a big hit with cold weather too. I do savor the fact that my WORST winter tanks beat most peoples BEST summer tanks.

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Yes, Connecticut is a hilly place. I have a few that I have to climb each day so the ride into work is worse than the return trip. Truck configuration (lifts, tires, racks, 4x4, auto tranny, etc.) will affect the MPGs too (along with load), but you need to be happy with what you are riding in and the utility you need. In that case, you may sacrifice some MPGs for aesthetics or functionality. That's fine.

The aim then is how to do the best with what you've got. Kase and others here run modified configurations but relative to their own numbers, they post respectable numbers. It's the fun of it!! Relative comparisons are fun, but more meaningful of course when juxtaposed against folks with similar configurations.

Cold weather and winter blends are our combatants at this point. I'm having a hard time getting consistent 22 MPGs at this point. I leave for work early and try to avoid both rush hours. I take the back roads to avoid the highway (large drag) but add about 10 minutes each way to the commute. Not a big deal for me, but some folks rather get 10 minutes more sleep. You may want to look into some alternative routes because as you see, speed robs you of fuel efficiency. But keep in mind that if the highway suits your needs better, the challenge is set up different. The bottom line is that when you are able to drive effectively and efficiently, the $$ ends up in your pocket. Not a bad place to keep cash!

WW is an enigma...cold weather, big hills (mountains) and crappy fuel doesn't seem to bother him. We swear he savors these things just to make us all feel bad!!

Good luck!
I care enough to check it but not so much that I let it affect my plans for the truck. I still mod as I see fit and try to get the best I can given the circumstances. Some days I'm fine not breaking 70 during the commute, others I don't want to be below 80. My commute is a mix of 2 lane state roads and expressway. Let's just say the drive consists of an extreme amount of elevation change. NW CT to New Haven should say enough.
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I hate winter blend. Two 23.x tanks in a row?! Heresy! Something tells me I had better get used to it though.

I'm thinking maybe I need to put the grill block back in so it doesn't take 8 miles to get over 180F.
I'm thinking about doing the block this year. I'll need to figure out a plan. Something with adjustment would be a slick design.
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Hey now, you can easily see from this graph that I take a big hit with cold weather too. I do savor the fact that my WORST winter tanks beat most peoples BEST summer tanks.

Very true...on all points!
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I care enough to check it but not so much that I let it affect my plans for the truck. I still mod as I see fit and try to get the best I can given the circumstances. Some days I'm fine not breaking 70 during the commute, others I don't want to be below 80. My commute is a mix of 2 lane state roads and expressway. Let's just say the drive consists of an extreme amount of elevation change. NW CT to New Haven should say enough.
I know the hills well. I worked in Seymour for 10 years: uphill to work but downhill on the return. But as you know, plenty of grades to climb in either direction (not to mention the insane traffic through NH prior to the new bridge). Add a little snow...classic FE conditions!! I recall Route 8 was prime for some higher speeds but you had to watch for the occasional sneaky trooper.
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I'm thinking about doing the block this year. I'll need to figure out a plan. Something with adjustment would be a slick design.
I've never used a grill block, but think I'll give it a shot, and report my findings. I've avoided it since Boulder can be 15F in the morning and 68F on the way home. I can easily monitor the coolant with the scangauge though.
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Latest tank. 5speed 4x4 access cab

304 miles/14.3 gallons=21.25

Mixture of highway/city about 60/40
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Old 11-08-2013, 03:25 PM   #1229
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I bet it'll be fine. The fan clutch is pretty aggressive and the cooling system is definitely capable. I knew it was past time to take it off in early summer when my max coolant temp went UP without it. It could be 70F outside and I'd get 190fwt with the block but 194-196fwt without it (and I couldn't hear the whoosh of the fan anymore). The day it came out it was 94F and it peaked at 198fwt climbing a hill on the freeway after an hour or so of driving. (That was the 2/3 block.)

I have a full upper block and one for just the top two openings. I'm considering trying the full upper block as it worked well on the 4.0L in the deep freeze. Either way it's also getting the side blocks for the lower grille again that narrow it up to match the width of the radiator.

It dawned on me a couple days ago I've been forgetting to turn off the heat when I start. Sure enough, with one minute of idle after cold start in 31F air, got on the road, engine got to 180F in just over two miles with open grill. Heck of a lot faster than the 4.0 ever could even with the block.
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Thanks for the data. How did you construct the blocks?
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Thanks for the data. How did you construct the blocks?
Keep in mind, not recommended for automatics unless you have separate trans temp monitoring.
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Thanks for the data. How did you construct the blocks?
It's easy on the 2nd gen. Remove two screws, pop out two plugs, and the upper grill is out. Then it's just a matter of blocking a couple unseen holes to make the back side's edges into one smooth curve (not difficult, even gorilla tape works well there), and ziptie some coroplast to it. The vertical supports are strong enough to hold it. I covered the face of the coroplast with black gorilla tape and it's essentially invisible.

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17.5mpg on 35's and stock gears
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22.8 on 33s stock gears :0
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I must just drive like a maniac. 2010 4x4 access cab 2.7 5 speed Ive never gotten 20mpg out of it. Closest i came was with the stock 245's which was like 19.5. Ive tried granny driving and it didnt seem to help. I do a lot of stop and go city driving as well as highway driving in the 75-80mph range (any slower you get run over here...) so i guess thats why I dont do as good. Oh well ill just settle for the steady 18-19mpg, better than the 8-10 i was getting in my jeep.
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I must just drive like a maniac. 2010 4x4 access cab 2.7 5 speed Ive never gotten 20mpg out of it. Closest i came was with the stock 245's which was like 19.5. Ive tried granny driving and it didnt seem to help. I do a lot of stop and go city driving as well as highway driving in the 75-80mph range (any slower you get run over here...) so i guess thats why I dont do as good. Oh well ill just settle for the steady 18-19mpg, better than the 8-10 i was getting in my jeep.
18-19 is not bad for large tires on a 4x4 with a lot of stop and go driving.
Stop and go is a killer, even on my 5-lug spinning 215's.
If I never got on the freeway, I wouldn't top 18.
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May I ask how?
Shifting at 2k and keeping it below 70mph on the highway
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May I ask how?
I personally shift between 2200-2500 rpm
2k is a little low for me, and 70 is my max speed on the highway to keep the Rpms below the 2400 range
I have a intake, headers and a straight through exhaust, it helps quite abit
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Colder weather and winter blend, lost about 2.5MPG since mid October.
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