Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Garage > 4 Cylinder

Notices

2012+ Clutch Problems

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-21-2013, 06:04 AM   #61
Senior Member
guitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shedguitarjamman is one of the sharper tools in the shed
Name: Zach
Joined: Jan 2013, #94410
Location: MA
Gender: Male
Posts: 584
guitarjamman's Tacoma Gallery
I got a 2012 2.7L 4X4 5-Speed with 25K on the clock. Bought it brand new with 6 Miles and in all honestly, my clutch feels like a beast. It took about 5K to get some carbon build-up and that helped smooth out some of the "mechanical clunkiness" of the shifts. Hopefully it doesn't start to crap out in the future but it feels great and now that I am used to HOW the truck shifts, I got it down to a science.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #62
Senior Member
jassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura about
 
jassco's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2009, #20568
Location: Boston
Gender: Male
Posts: 558
jassco's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by EatMyTacomaDust View Post
I'll throw in my .02:

Link to a thread I started about this issue for those interested:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...ms-issues.html

End result I got:

I took my truck into the dealer and told them I had a slipping clutch and that there was a TSB to resolve the issue. They checked it out for about 30 mins and came back and said they would fix it under TSB 0066-11.

They replaced:

Clutch Cover Assembly
Clutch Disk Assembly
Flywheel Sub-Assembly

Replacement parts are AISIN, NOT LUK! Truck feels like new, shifts better than it did when new.

__________________________________________________ __________________

This is a real pain in the Ass! Good luck to all you '12-'13 owners out there. Stay on 'em!
Same results for me with TSB. I just think the 4x4 and the added weight were just too much for this combo of engine, gearing and drive-train. The result is a clunky acceleration with lots of hops and chatter no matter how well you drive it. Add in the Access Cab and it gets worse faster with this weak clutch plate. This is why it shifts so much better when you rev it to 3k and especially with the 1st to 2nd shift.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 09:18 AM   #63
Junior Member
mcflymarty is on a distinguished road
Name: Marty
Joined: Jun 2012, #80998
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: 18
mcflymarty's Tacoma Gallery
The chattering in 1st gear on my '12 continues to get worse, with only 16k miles. Now on occasion when, for example, I'm pulling slowly (2 or 3 MPH) into my driveway in 1st gear, the truck will just literally stop, as though I had just quickly slammed on the brakes. When I get out of the truck, I immediately smell what seems like clutch burning... even though I haven't been riding on the clutch at all.

Any ideas what in the clutch assemble could be causing the vehicle to halt like that while trickling forward in 1st gear? Or something else? Looks like I'll be taking this in to the dealer... what a crappy clutch.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:38 PM   #64
Senior Member
jassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura about
 
jassco's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2009, #20568
Location: Boston
Gender: Male
Posts: 558
jassco's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcflymarty View Post
The chattering in 1st gear on my '12 continues to get worse, with only 16k miles. Now on occasion when, for example, I'm pulling slowly (2 or 3 MPH) into my driveway in 1st gear, the truck will just literally stop, as though I had just quickly slammed on the brakes. When I get out of the truck, I immediately smell what seems like clutch burning... even though I haven't been riding on the clutch at all.

Any ideas what in the clutch assemble could be causing the vehicle to halt like that while trickling forward in 1st gear? Or something else? Looks like I'll be taking this in to the dealer... what a crappy clutch.
If you are not on level ground with the tires straight and it is in 1st gear it will struggle/stall. The engine is just too weak. Even on a slight grade the engine will balk and rock in 1st letting off the gas and crawling slow. If you are going less then 5-8mph then you pretty much have to be in first gear with this truck.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 04:07 PM   #65
Junior Member
mcflymarty is on a distinguished road
Name: Marty
Joined: Jun 2012, #80998
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: 18
mcflymarty's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by jassco View Post
If you are not on level ground with the tires straight and it is in 1st gear it will struggle/stall. The engine is just too weak. Even on a slight grade the engine will balk and rock in 1st letting off the gas and crawling slow. If you are going less then 5-8mph then you pretty much have to be in first gear with this truck.
I should clarify... I'm basically coming to the verge of stopping so I have already begun to release the clutch, when out of nowhere the vehicle comes to an immediate halt (as opposed to rolling). I have not even touched the brake, nor does the vehicle stall out. Hope that makes sense... it's as though the clutch just all of a sudden graps and stops the vehicle's forward momentum...
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2013, 03:49 PM   #66
Junior Member
kRiStOf is on a distinguished road
 
kRiStOf's Avatar
Army: Patriot System Repairer/Recruiter
Joined: Jun 2013, #107347
Location: Sacramento Area
Gender: Male
Posts: 12
kRiStOf's Tacoma Gallery
I am so glad I found this thread. I bought my Taco used at 12k miles. It had this issue with a jumpy clutch in 1st gear, but the dealership(Subaru) told me it was that I wasn't used to new clutches(i have a '94 yota and a '00 focus both manual). It's a '12 Double Cab 4x4 Manual with the tow package. Reading through here seems that the more weight the truck has, the worse the problem seems to be.

Ive put 20k on it doing Army business, and have had 5 Toyota services(including immediately upon purchase), and they tell me there is no issue each time. They can't duplicate. I have gotten to the point of wanting to get rid of it, until NOW.

BCTSR5 wrote: TSB 3663 for '12 model
eatmytacomadust wrote: TSB 0066-11 for '11 model
MRJ wrote: Replaced clutch parts, didn't specify TSB # he used.

~k

UPDATE (2July): Went to the dealer and checked in on the clutch creaking and jumping while engaging 1st gear. They found the TSB for the creaky clutch specifying replacement of the master cylinder, etc, but didn't have the TSB 3663 that BCTSR5 mentioned. I'm in Texas, so I understand they could have a different number for 'Merica, but when I saw their list, only 2 clutch TSB's were on it. I have an appointment for Monday morning, and will update this post after its done.

~k
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2013, 09:00 AM   #67
Junior Member
kRiStOf is on a distinguished road
 
kRiStOf's Avatar
Army: Patriot System Repairer/Recruiter
Joined: Jun 2013, #107347
Location: Sacramento Area
Gender: Male
Posts: 12
kRiStOf's Tacoma Gallery
Thumbs down

Currently at the Toyota dealership getting a service and having them check over the clutch. I left the truck overnight so I could replicate the clutch problem, but it was already 84* outside and didn't stutter. Talking to the head technician, he said the last time tacoma's had that issue was '11s, according to his research. He is checking for oil or moisture inside to see if that's the problem, but without replicating, he said he can't do anything.

The squeaky clutch pedal TSB covers '12 tacoma's up to 25,000 produced before my vin(I'll get official numbers), and it's not squeaking this morning, so it's not being fixed. It will be squeaking this afternoon, so I told him I'll be back, and maybe I can get the TSB extended out to my vin.

Any help on the clutch issue would be appreciated. I'll post my vin in a little while if it will help. I read to call Toyota up, but who would I talk to? This dealership seems willing to do the work if there is any documentation they can find on it.

~k
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2013, 08:20 PM   #68
TL;DR BOSS
hour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the rough
 
hour's Avatar
Name: Brandon
Joined: Jul 2012, #83174
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Posts: 360
hour's Tacoma Gallery
Oh wow, I have creaky clutch pedal but it hasn't been doing it reliably since it started getting hot as piss outside before 10am. Crap, only have like 8k left before I'm out of that 25k window...

Sounds like my clutch pedal farts when i push it in
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2013, 08:07 AM   #69
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
I have a 2012 RC MT with 20,100 on it and clutch works like new, Praise the Lord,

Thankfully second gear has smoothed out a bit with the internal burnishing over those miles, There seemed to be quite a bit of drive line slack in it and a test drive with a new RC MT confirmed it's all the same...
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #70
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by kRiStOf View Post
The squeaky clutch pedal TSB covers '12 tacoma's up to 25,000 produced before my vin(I'll get official numbers), and it's not squeaking this morning, so it's not being fixed. It will be squeaking this afternoon, so I told him I'll be back, and maybe I can get the TSB extended out to my vin.

Any help on the clutch issue would be appreciated. I'll post my vin in a little while if it will help. I read to call Toyota up, but who would I talk to? This dealership seems willing to do the work if there is any documentation they can find on it.

~k
That's good they are willing,

My appt Monday also has two clutch squeaks, one internal, which I can remedy sometimes by reaching up under the dash and turning the rod that connects the clutch pedal to the master cyl, but it comes back after a feqw days, it's very hard to get lubricant in there.

The outside squeak is also annoying, I am hoping it's an easy fix,
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2013, 07:14 AM   #71
Junior Member
kRiStOf is on a distinguished road
 
kRiStOf's Avatar
Army: Patriot System Repairer/Recruiter
Joined: Jun 2013, #107347
Location: Sacramento Area
Gender: Male
Posts: 12
kRiStOf's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by KWMF View Post
That's good they are willing,

My appt Monday also has two clutch squeaks, one internal, which I can remedy sometimes by reaching up under the dash and turning the rod that connects the clutch pedal to the master cyl, but it comes back after a feqw days, it's very hard to get lubricant in there.

The outside squeak is also annoying, I am hoping it's an easy fix,
I haven't had the time to update my issue's/fixes, but will more thoroughly explain everything this afternoon. I am currently on the phone with Toyota Customer Experience Center, asking about the clutch issue, and the leaf-spring replacement(3-leaf to 4-leaf) found in other threads here.

~k

EDIT: While I'm on hold with Heather, I will tell you the internal clutch "farting"/squeak was fixed by the tech by tightening the rod's nut on the underside of the pedal. Its been 4 days without a squeak/fart. Tightening the nut in the direction of the pedal.

~k
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2013, 12:34 PM   #72
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by kRiStOf View Post
I will tell you the internal clutch "farting"/squeak was fixed by the tech by tightening the rod's nut on the underside of the pedal. Its been 4 days without a squeak/fart. Tightening the nut in the direction of the pedal.

~k
Awesome,

I am going out there now to crawl under my pedals and see if it's something I can knock out myself,

I appreciate the info....
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2013, 09:20 PM   #73
Junior Member
East coast navy is on a distinguished road
Joined: Jul 2013, #108341
Gender: Male
Posts: 1
East coast navy's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by norcaldude82 View Post
I had my clutch go out at 10k! It was replaced by my dealer basically to save me as a customer. THERE ISN'T A TSB FOR 2012+ TACOMA CLUTCHES. Toyota "fixed" the issue of the TSB for the 2005-2011 model years, but my 2012 had the same problems. If you have clutch problems with your 2012+ 2.7L Taco please post! Also let your dealer know, the more people with problems with the crap LUK clutches may result in only AISIN clutches being used.
I'm new to this site, so bear with me. I have a 2012 Tacoma 2.7 5 speed. It has 16,000. When I shift to one gear to another. It will slip for two to three seconds. As if the clutch is stuck. Doesn't happen all the time. Took it to the dealer. They said we can't find the problem, but we did notice the shifter is stiff. Other wise no problems they said. So then then two days later I put on my Ac on and I hear rattling by my trans. I put my cultch down and it goes away. Then it comes back when I take the foot off the cultch. Then I shut off the Ac and it goes away. Please tell me if someone had this problem.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2013, 10:21 PM   #74
TL;DR BOSS
hour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the roughhour is a jewel in the rough
 
hour's Avatar
Name: Brandon
Joined: Jul 2012, #83174
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Posts: 360
hour's Tacoma Gallery
Idunno about the slipping but I have 1,000 miles more than you on same truck, ac rattle shit since day one (literally, heard it in drive thru driving it home).
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2013, 05:47 AM   #75
Senior Member
jassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura aboutjassco has a spectacular aura about
 
jassco's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2009, #20568
Location: Boston
Gender: Male
Posts: 558
jassco's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by East coast navy View Post
I'm new to this site, so bear with me. I have a 2012 Tacoma 2.7 5 speed. It has 16,000. When I shift to one gear to another. It will slip for two to three seconds. As if the clutch is stuck. Doesn't happen all the time. Took it to the dealer. They said we can't find the problem, but we did notice the shifter is stiff. Other wise no problems they said. So then then two days later I put on my Ac on and I hear rattling by my trans. I put my cultch down and it goes away. Then it comes back when I take the foot off the cultch. Then I shut off the Ac and it goes away. Please tell me if someone had this problem.
Welcome and yes. http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...sel-sound.html
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2013, 09:01 AM   #76
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
Dealer said the clutch "fart" sound from under the pedal area has a TSB, had to order parts, I'll get the details up when I have em,

  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2013, 10:34 AM   #77
Junior Member
BCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shedBCTSR5 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
Name: Jeff
Joined: Oct 2011, #65000
Location: Vancouver
Gender: Male
Posts: 21
BCTSR5's Tacoma Gallery
All TSB's I mention are listed in Canada.
There are TSB's related to the clutch system on 2012+
There has also been an addition of a new TSB related to a few clutch components on 2012 4cyl
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2013, 08:44 AM   #78
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
Appt Monday for the repair,

They did say it should be a clutch pedal assembly and new master cylinder also,

I'll have more details when it's finished and I get to test drive it...
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 01:10 PM   #79
B.S. Goodwrench
KWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shedKWMF is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
KWMF's Avatar
Name: Zack
Joined: Aug 2012, #84332
Location: WNC
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,107
KWMF's Tacoma Gallery
Just got back from dealer performing TSB 0186-12 on my 2012 RC 4cyl,
manual transmission of course,

Praise the Lord, squeak is gone, feels smoother, I am pretty sure Toyota changed something in the spring that returns the pedal, I think it's a tad stiffer, for real.

The dealer got me done in half a day, I did drop it off though.

I got a Clutch Pedal assembly 31311-04012
and master cyl assembly 31420-04020

I may need to adjust the starter switch though, I thought I was going to have to put my foot through the floor to get it to start, lol...

  Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 03:57 PM   #80
Senior Member
RC4413 is on a distinguished road
 
RC4413's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2013, #106210
Gender: Male
Posts: 169
RC4413's Tacoma Gallery
Here it goes, does anyone with a manual trans have an issue with their clutch pedal kicking out to the left slightly within the first 1 inch of engaging the clutch? It does not seem to interfere with shifting, but I am wondering if it is an issue that I should be concerned about or do I just have to live with it. 2013 RC Manual 4x4. Thanks.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Clutch problems yamahahauler 1st Gen. Tacomas 11 08-16-2012 01:17 PM
Clutch problems blitz 2nd Gen. Tacomas 4 04-06-2012 01:11 PM
Clutch Problems I Think JimmyIvine Technical Chat 23 05-14-2009 10:04 PM
clutch problems 1 bad tacoma 2nd Gen. Tacomas 1 03-16-2009 06:06 PM
clutch problems offroadTRD Technical Chat 0 03-12-2009 04:53 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.