Complete 30k Maintenance

danteisme · 05-24-2009, 04:45 PM

i was flippin thru the manual, it says for the rearend whether you have lsd or not that you need hypoid gear oil. my motorcycle takes the same stuff, what is the difference between the hypoid gear oil and regular gear oil? can you just use the regular stuff with our trucks?

DanGer · 05-25-2009, 12:56 PM

Chris 4x4 told me to use mobil 1 75W-90 all across the board (for manual tranny, transfer case, front and rear diffs) so I did. Maybe he can come in and address that or shoot him a PM

db67fm · 05-29-2009, 05:14 PM

I also read that the LSD requires an additive.
The e locking diff (TRD Off-road) you simply use only the 75w-90.

Colton · 05-29-2009, 05:45 PM

Great job dgerm!

rpastro · 05-29-2009, 05:58 PM

Thanks, I learned a lot from it...even at my ripe old age of 61!

TacoNut · 05-29-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by db67fm

I also read that the LSD requires an additive.
The e locking diff (TRD Off-road) you simply use only the 75w-90.

Yes and Yes

Deer Slayer · 06-02-2009, 11:50 AM

Thanks dgerm and Chris 4X4 for the excellent write up and pictures. it helps alot for people like me who have never done it before. Just one thing I wanted to point out. when I looked at my maintenance schedule again, it indicated that you change the differntial oil only if you have LSD. It appears that if you have a conventional 4X4 without the LSD or anything like that, you never have to change any of the gear oils. neither front or rear differtial, transfer gear box or manual transmition. at least not according to Toyota's recommended service schedule, unless there is somthing that I missed.

Kenobe · 06-02-2009, 12:11 PM

I saw a sign saying 30k maintenance at the dealer (for 4x4) is $550! I have a while before that, but debating if it's better to bang up my knuckles or one of the kids at the dealer...

DanGer · 06-02-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

Thanks dgerm and Chris 4X4 for the excellent write up and pictures. it helps alot for people like me who have never done it before. Just one thing I wanted to point out. when I looked at my maintenance schedule again, it indicated that you change the differntial oil only if you have LSD. It appears that if you have a conventional 4X4 without the LSD or anything like that, you never have to change any of the gear oils. neither front or rear differtial, transfer gear box or manual transmition. at least not according to Toyota's recommended service schedule, unless there is somthing that I missed.

I think what you read is that you don't have to add the LSD additive to it unless you have the TRD sport package. My service manual says that I should change the gear oils at 30K but not add the additive

DanGer · 06-02-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenobe

I saw a sign saying 30k maintenance at the dealer (for 4x4) is $550! I have a while before that, but debating if it's better to bang up my knuckles or one of the kids at the dealer...

Definitely do it yourself! Without having to take pictures and write ups, it would have taken me about 2 hours to complete with only simple tools, fluid receptacles and replacement fluids. The only time consuming thing would be changing the spark plugs on the V6's

Deer Slayer · 06-02-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dgerm

I think what you read is that you don't have to add the LSD additive to it unless you have the TRD sport package. My service manual says that I should change the gear oils at 30K but not add the additive

What I was refering to was that in the maintenance schedule for 2008 Tacoma, it lists replacing the differntial fluid at every 30K, but in the paranthesis it states something like: for forrunner and 4X4 trucks with limited slip differntial only (I don't remember the exact wording), but something in that line indicating that if you don't have LSD you never have to change it.

DanGer · 06-02-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

What I was refering to was that in the maintenance schedule for 2008 Tacoma, it lists replacing the differntial fluid at every 30K, but in the paranthesis it states something like: for forrunner and 4X4 trucks with limited slip differntial only (I don't remember the exact wording), but something in that line indicating that if you don't have LSD you never have to change it.

Ok I will check mine out. I think I know what you are referring to and thought it was the section about adding the LSD additive. I will check tonight and I'll be prepared to stand corrected

NAAC3TACO · 06-02-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dgerm

Ok I will check mine out. I think I know what you are referring to and thought it was the section about adding the LSD additive. I will check tonight and I'll be prepared to stand corrected

If your truck is a base 4x4, it probably doesn't have limited slip. Therefore, you shouldn't have to change the fluid at 30,000 miles unless you want to. I'm gonna do mine at 5yrs or 50,000 miles whichever comes first.

bobwilson1977 · 06-02-2009, 01:18 PM

Good idea about the cabin filter. I've NEVER changed mine. I bet it barely works since its been 220,000 miles.

DanGer · 06-02-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NAAC3TACO

If your truck is a base 4x4, it probably doesn't have limited slip. Therefore, you shouldn't have to change the fluid at 30,000 miles unless you want to. I'm gonna do mine at 5yrs or 50,000 miles whichever comes first.

Ok, regardless I wanted to change everything over to synthetic anyway. I always thought I was supposed to do it at 30k, but even if I had known it wasnt required I would have done it.

And I don't regret it at all. Damn that oil that came out was SHINY from all the metal in it.

TacoTycoon · 06-02-2009, 01:24 PM

hey good write up buddy, too bad we didn't have a chance to wheel up in the NRV. Looks like i'll be at CNU this upcoming year but if I ever make it up there again we should hit the trails

DanGer · 06-02-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TacoTycoon

hey good write up buddy, too bad we didn't have a chance to wheel up in the NRV. Looks like i'll be at CNU this upcoming year but if I ever make it up there again we should hit the trails

Thanks! I'm taking it easy on the taco with the trails until my tires wear out, then I will get some better ones and feel a bit more confident!

neslerrah · 06-02-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dgerm

Ok, regardless I wanted to change everything over to synthetic anyway. I always thought I was supposed to do it at 30k, but even if I had known it wasnt required I would have done it.

And I don't regret it at all. Damn that oil that came out was SHINY from all the metal in it.

There was some metal when I changed by rear differential. I want my truck to run all on synthetic, that was the only reason why I changed my fluids.

Deer Slayer · 06-02-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by neslerrah

There was some metal when I changed by rear differential. I want my truck to run all on synthetic, that was the only reason why I changed my fluids.

That is a good enough reason to change those fluids, required or not. My truck only has 16K, but I am thinking about switching all the gear oils and manual transmision oil to synthetic too in the hopes of making it run smoother and more efficiently (hopefully better MPG).
What synthetic oils you guys recommend for these different applications?

chris4x4 · 06-02-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deer Slayer

That is a good enough reason to change those fluids, required or not. My truck only has 16K, but I am thinking about switching all the gear oils and manual transmision oil to synthetic too in the hopes of making it run smoother and more efficiently (hopefully better MPG).
What synthetic oils you guys recommend for these different applications?

Any quality synthetic should be good. I use Mobil 1 as its easy to find.

05-24-2009, 04:45 PM	#21
danteisme Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4248 Location: pittsburgh Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 87	i was flippin thru the manual, it says for the rearend whether you have lsd or not that you need hypoid gear oil. my motorcycle takes the same stuff, what is the difference between the hypoid gear oil and regular gear oil? can you just use the regular stuff with our trucks? __________________ 2005 reg cab 4x4 1996 acura integra gsr

05-25-2009, 12:56 PM	#22
DanGer Avatar approved by 98tacomav6 Joined: Jun 2008, #7155 Location: Northern Virginia & Blacksburg Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 5,854 07 Base 4Cyl 4x4 Manual 2007 Access Cab Manual 2.7 5 speed White Head Light mod, White shorty antennae, Doug Thorley Long Tube headers, AFE Drop in air filter, Secondary Air Filter Removed,	Chris 4x4 told me to use mobil 1 75W-90 all across the board (for manual tranny, transfer case, front and rear diffs) so I did. Maybe he can come in and address that or shoot him a PM __________________ 30K Maintenance Write up My build

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rpastro Junior Member Joined: May 2009, #17776 Gender: Male Posts: 4 Red Tacoma 2009 Regular Cab Manual	Great writeup... Thanks, I learned a lot from it...even at my ripe old age of 61!

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