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Big Bear dude 03-17-2013 12:34 PM

4 cylinder power
 
Hi I'm a new member and considering the purchase of a 4 cylinder 4x4 standard or access cab. My concern is that living in the mountains I have to climb up and down frequently and that the power will be an issue. I'm an electrician and carry mostly hand tools and a ladder but I'm climbing 4000' on a 16% grade at times.
Secondly how will it do in the snow?

Gelo760 03-17-2013 12:41 PM

Get the stick and it will most likely need a regear .

Big Bear dude 03-17-2013 12:52 PM

Regear ?

Tacoyota 03-17-2013 07:20 PM

My manual does fine going skiing/hiking in Oregon or Washington, no 16%s though, holds speed on grades at say 50mph, but wont accelerate on them over 4-5k altitude. As far as snow, it'll do as well as any other truck, but I always use winter tires. Power will be an issue, its a 4 cylinder, but it does damn good for one.

oldblue1968chevy 03-17-2013 07:23 PM

Theres about a 1/2 mile hill pretty steep grade, I can pull it @ 3500rpm's @ 70mph in my 4cyl auto, granted that's pretty windin it out for the lil Toyota though.

Gelo760 03-17-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bear dude (Post 6602651)
Regear ?

Lower gears to help . If you don't mod it ( bigger tires , lift ) it should probably be ok .

Tacoyota 03-17-2013 07:26 PM

On freeways, it holds speed any grade/speed for me, but mountain grades and altitude start to challenge any engine, especially smaller ones for a given model.

pigger 03-18-2013 11:04 AM

I live above 5000 feet, and my 2.7L reg cab is not fast by any means, but it goes up hills OK if I'm in the appropriate gear. At this altitude, I have to shift down for the steeper hills, especially if I've got weight in the bed.

jmlinne 03-18-2013 02:11 PM

My 2.7L 5-speed handles hills and snow just great. Now that It has 170,000 and low compression I don't try hills in 5th but in 4th I have no problems. The 4wd is excellent in snow and ice. In and out of 4H with a flick of the wrist. In Montana we all use studded snow tires for the ice.

DGXR 03-18-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlinne (Post 6607996)
My 2.7L 5-speed handles hills and snow just great. Now that It has 170,000 and low compression I don't try hills in 5th but in 4th I have no problems. The 4wd is excellent in snow and ice. In and out of 4H with a flick of the wrist. In Montana we all use studded snow tires for the ice.

Did you check your compression? How do you know it's low? 170k is not that many miles for a modern Toyota 4-cylinder.

Billyj870m9 03-19-2013 05:37 AM

Honestly if I lived in hilly areas I would have traded my 4 banger already. For where I live it's ok but I have a feeling you'll need a little more power for all the hills.

That being said I love mine for what I do. I don't tow and don't haul a lot besides my self and work stuff. I will prolly be getting a v6 soon just because I want a dclb and it only comes in the sport in my area.

newertoy 03-19-2013 05:51 AM

6 cyl is better for steeper and longer grades--had a 4cyl-did OK.
BUT 6 cyl is MUCH BETTER-have the 6cyl now. spend the extra $$$ you will not regret it.

jmlinne 03-19-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DGXR (Post 6608676)
Did you check your compression? How do you know it's low? 170k is not that many miles for a modern Toyota 4-cylinder.

Yes I did a differential pressure compression test like we do on aviation engines. It registered an average near 40/80 psi if you understand the meaning. This test also helps identify the source of leaks and mine are primarily rings.

Juggernaut 03-19-2013 03:07 PM

I have the 4 cyl and live at sea level. When I took it skiing I was surprised how much power it lost. If i lived above 5000 ft elevation I would not have bought my 4cyl.

On the plus side once you get used to it and you bring it back down the hill it is as if someone dropped a supercharge in it, so much more power!

BuzzardsGottaEat 03-19-2013 03:14 PM

What power?

Tacoyota 03-19-2013 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=newertoy;6611579]6 cyl is better for steeper and longer grades--had a 4cyl-did OK.
BUT 6 cyl is MUCH BETTER-have the 6cyl now. spend the extra $$$ you will not regret it.[/QUOTE

Drove one, better acceleration, but only does the exact 75mph as a 4 cyl. My 4 cyl is paid and I don't regret it . I don't regret the 25-26 mpg either , I don't regret the lower maintenance. 6cylinder is nice , nothing against it , but a lot of us just either don't need or want it.:)

BuzzardsGottaEat 03-19-2013 03:59 PM

25-26 in a 5 lug, no problem, in a 4x4, thats a stretch . . . not saying you're lying, just impressed at such FE with 4x4.

Tacoyota 03-19-2013 04:10 PM

65 mph speed limit in Oregon, as opposed to 75 elsewhere, its highway mpg too still on stock tires too, fuel efficient , but not great off road. Its not too hard to do with some small efforts.

EatMyTacomaDust 03-19-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacoyota (Post 6604483)
My manual does fine going skiing/hiking in Oregon or Washington, no 16%s though, holds speed on grades at say 50mph, but wont accelerate on them over 4-5k altitude. As far as snow, it'll do as well as any other truck, but I always use winter tires. Power will be an issue, its a 4 cylinder, but it does damn good for one.

^^^^ Excellent Answer

Test drive both and you'll probably get your answer. But if you get the 2.7L - Get a stick.

bjmoose 03-19-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bear dude (Post 6602592)
Hi I'm a new member and considering the purchase of a 4 cylinder 4x4 standard or access cab. My concern is that living in the mountains I have to climb up and down frequently and that the power will be an issue. I'm an electrician and carry mostly hand tools and a ladder but I'm climbing 4000' on a 16% grade at times.
Secondly how will it do in the snow?

Nobody will mistake the 2.7 banger for a speed demon. That said, it has plenty of power for everyday driving use - even on hills, as long as you're willing to use the gearbox.

I'm lifted and running on oversized tires, carrying a fair amount of armor and tools, and even still on the Barstow to Bakersfield climb yesterday (into a heckuva headwind) I could always hold 70 or 75 on the climbs - unless I had to slow down for other traffic.

But only you know how much power you really need. So I advise you test drive both for a lengthy test drive.


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