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Old 11-05-2011, 10:14 PM   #1
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Prerunner brake swap?

I was curious if it's a bolt in job or not. After some frustrated comparing, I've discovered the pads I want for towing and aggressive driving (EBC Yellow Stuff) are available for the Prerunner models but not my model. The listing on the fitment guide is inaccurate.

Therefore, I'd like to switch over to Prerunner brakes. What's involved, beyond the obvious bleeding the system, calipers, rotors and (duh) pads?
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:29 PM   #2
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Most likely spindles also
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The best way to do this is to buy a prerunner because nothing from the front suspension of a 6 lug will bolt onto a 5 lug truck.
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IIRC xrunner BBK fit 5 luggers with proper rims no?

Id look into it a lil
TRD makes a kit for the X runner. They are 5 lug.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:42 PM   #5
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thats what I was referring to BBK for teh xrunner.....this isnt scrabble ya poop head


jk, u know what rim size is needed?
Lol.

No clue.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:23 AM   #7
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Damn, I forgot about the whole 6-lug spindles part.

This sucks. D:
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Look into a bigger bore master cylinder swap..it'll help.
and pads..
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Valve is dumb as fuck unless you tow often.
I'd eliminate it from the loop.

No links or writeups as I've never done it..I just know from expirience on older Toyota pickups..you use a V6 master cylinder(1" bore)..compared to a 7/8ths bore of a 4 cyl one..bolts right up. Dual diaphragm boosters help too.

Maybe a Tundra master cylinder would work? or some other vehicle..it's all about the bolt pattern on the booster..the piston in the booster will work fine in most master cylinders..it's just all about the bolt pattern of master cylinder.
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Valve is dumb as fuck unless you tow often.
I'd eliminate it from the loop.

No links or writeups as I've never done it..I just know from expirience on older Toyota pickups..you use a V6 master cylinder(1" bore)..compared to a 7/8ths bore of a 4 cyl one..bolts right up. Dual diaphragm boosters help too.

Maybe a Tundra master cylinder would work? or some other vehicle..it's all about the bolt pattern on the booster..the piston in the booster will work fine in most master cylinders..it's just all about the bolt pattern of master cylinder.
the master cylinders on the 2nd gens are pretty massive. and i'm pretty sure they are the same size (see below) it's been already stated on XRU and such that there is no real need for an upgrade master cyinder with the TRD BBK or even larger BBKs (one guy i remember was running a 355mm bbk stoptech kit and the master cyl was enough stock)

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My dad's truck (V6 DCLB PreRunner)
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Good shit Kelson, good to know that.

Looks like your only option is more surface for braking..equal bigger rotors..= relocation brackets for calipers and some random calipers and adapt some mustang rotors or some other type of rotors from a similar hub assembly.

Fuck your guys brakes hahaha.
FJ80 rotors, V6 calipers, V6 master cylinder, and V6 dual diaphgram booster will stop my truck 35% faster then stock brakes and can lock all 4 up if I really wanted to.
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Any chance an X-Runner swap would be possible? <.<
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Any chance an X-Runner swap would be possible? <.<
I believe all 5 lug brakes are the same. The X is a 5 lug.
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Even the X-Runner has same size rotors and calipers? Kind of odd!
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I've got a stoptech 5 lug BBK in the classifieds right now for $750
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The best way to do this is to buy a prerunner because nothing from the front suspension of a 6 lug will bolt onto a 5 lug truck.
What he said, I tried swapping uppers, lowers, spindles to my 5lug, thet only thing I got to work was the trd bilstein struts after swapping the upper strut mounts.
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Well, one thing's for sure, I'm definitely going to need better brakes. After a local mountain run of ~ 3.5 mi, my brakes were toast. I guess pads and rotors are my best bet, huh.
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Call Edwin at RaceShopper.com and order some SP Performance slotted rotors and Hawk pads. Install them, bleed your brakes, adjust your rear drums, and you'll be fine.

If you want a little more performance then swap out your flexible rubber brake lines for some stainless braided lines.
Also downshift your trans for engine braking.
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The transmission doesn't like to shift down into 1st unless you're < 25 MPH, and 2nd gear is way too tall for effective engine braking when you're doing a downhill attack.

Probably something y'all would consider lunatic driving, mind you. Highest cornering speeds possible, full acceleration, full braking. Hey, since my truck is low enough to handle this stuff without flipping (for the time being anyways), might as well enjoy it, right? :P

Anyway, thanks for that info. I'll look into the rotors and pads.
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