2011 Tacoma cummins + mid travel feeler

haha, yeah.....

do you know how much it costs to properly long travel a truck?
and its what he wants to do so who cares. i think it will be badass

 

About 10 Grand to properly do LT im guessing? which leaves 8500... Thats about how much 2001 Dodge Ram cummins are going for so whats your argument? I agree the guy should do whatever he wants, I just think for almost 19K he could do a ton more better things, He could have alot more to show for his 19K. Id personally feel like an idiot showing off a 19K mod.

 

I'll send a reminder out, I mispelt the subject. I want midtravel. since i have to tune the suspension to the new weight of the drivetrain i figured why not do a little upgrade.

 

ToyComa92, we are not in the low-end market segment nor do we claim to be. That being said, I think a little research into the engine conversion market segment may be in order. There are bundles of companies offering Hemi swaps for Jeeps that make our $25k conversions look cheap. These have NO additional benefit other than power. There is a large user-base here in the USA that wants not only increased range, but better torque, and alternative/multi fuel capability, and in a reliable platform. They've looked at the big Ford/Chevy/Dodge platforms and are not keen on buying a $60,000 12 mpg rig that will lose more than half of it's value in 2 years. The problem with the "buy a Ford/Chevy/Dodge" approach is those trucks are not only $55k+ , but the cost of ownership is astronomical comparatively. If you're in the market for small, modern diesel pickup, you have no options. For a cost analysis experiment, one can go buy a brand new Tacoma, put a diesel into it, and still have $15k+ left over for goodies. Sure, you cant tow a house with it, but you'll also be seeing twice the fuel economy numbers as the Ford/Chevy/Dodge with far less headaches. Then there's the resale value...

 

ive thrown this idea around before and ive always wanted to do it just funds dont work right now for all that lol. just think 4BT cummins makes 150 hp but 450 ft lb of tourqe stock! you can dump a little more fuel and be making around 200 hp and close to 550 ft lb sounds like a great idea for a tacoma and be one of a kind. if i do it im going to put a stack in the bed for shits and giggles bcz everyone would wonder why you have a stack on a gas 6 cylinder then you start it up and puff the smoke hahahaha

 

That Second Gen that dieseltoys made is super nice. If I had the cash to do it I would do it in a heartbeat! It is going to be a long time until Toyota figures out that there is a market for mid-size diesels in the U.S. This is the only option for now unless you can do everything yourself.

 

We have stayed on a 14+ month waiting list since we opened the doors in 2004 so there is definitely a market there. We geared the kits to towards folks who have the ability to do the work themselves but don't have the cash to pay someone to do it.

 

What kind of fuel economy do you get with the diesel conversions in a Tacoma? The reason I ask is my old man's full size diesel gets better MPG unloaded than my unloaded Tacoma.

 

I completely agree with you. We're always hearing people say "if Toyota or jeep etc. brought this vehicle over with a diesel, I'd be the first guy in line...". Well, if you price out that vehicle overseas, it's a $45-50k truck. Now, adjust that for US marketshare and taxes etc. and you're easily at the $40k+ mark. Many people will not buy that vehicle if Toyota offered it as they cannot afford the payment. Now, that doesn't negate the capabilites of the vehicle or the people that want/need a small diesel truck. There are simply people that are prepared to pay a premium to get exactly what they want.

 

Dieseltoys, let me ask you something.

What does your company source your D4-D's from? 100k/km Shaken (since at 100k/km the Shaken inspection/registration process switches from being mandatory every 2 years to being mandatory every 6 months) trade-ins? Junkyard wrecks? Japanese engine rebuilders?

The only way I can see myself accepting of a 25k pricetag for a swap is if both the engine AND transmission are brand new from Toyota.

 

In order to have a successful conversion, you have to get everything from a good low-mileage donor vehicle. This means all the computers, wiring, gauges, mounts, radiator, accessories etc. all must come from the same functional vehicle. So, the cost not only includes all of these things, but shipping to our shop (+ oceanic freight, customs duties, isf bond, LTL, etc). Then you have the monumental task of fabricating, plumbing, and wiring (converting) these systems into your vehicle and making them all work. Buying a brand new engine and transmission looks great on paper, but is still a far cry from having everything necessary to make that engine/transmission work correctly in your vehicle. You can buy several low-mileage (less than 20k) conversion vehicles at auction for the price of one new one. If you were to call Toyota overseas and try to buy all the stuff brand new, it would cost you a fortune and you would still have to figure out how to make the brand new stuff work as they are not designed to fit into a Tacoma. Nothing is plug-n-play.

 

Here's an access cab Prerunner D-4D

 

Low mileage is always a great place to start, but what goes into ensuring that there are no failure points on the donor powertrain and that it will perform damn near like new and last a long time?

 

I realize that this thread has kind of been hijacked so I apologize to the OP. The importance cannot be overstated about knowing, flying over and personally meeting, and having a good relationship with your buying company overseas. We do not use a brokering service. We have our guys test run everything before we buy, run a full leak-down + compression test on each engine, and all conversions include new timing belt, water pump, cam seal, tensioner, and new serpentine belt. We also plug into the DLC3 port and check for injector variances, sensor malfunctions, as well as any CEL's. We take the buying process quite seriously because we actually do our own installs. By this I mean that it is in nobody's best interest (least of all ours) to buy something questionable and make the investment in bringing it over here with a possible problem. It would be our responsibility to then bring it up to par. We're not going to invest the money into dismantling, crating, and shipping it over to ourselves only to have issues.

 

sub'd and this^^ is what i would do with a diesel tacoma lol

 

Subbed on this one, I have always had some crazy dream of putting a 12v cummins into a 5lug

 

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