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Old 06-15-2013, 01:02 AM   #1
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Lift vs Lower!

Alright well I have an access cab sr5 and I'm torn between lowering / lifting. I like the idea of a lifted truck especially since the main purpose of the truck is to haul dirt bikes. The only problem is tires, lift, re gearing rear end, adjusting the speedo and alignment is going to cost a lot! I also use this for daily driver and I fear the lift and 31" tires will just kill my MPG's. This got my looking into lowering. I've been looking at all the lowered 5 lug build threads on here (which are very detailed!) and I've fallen in love. If I were to lower it though I wouldn't want to notch the frame and I'd need a lowering setup that would still give me the stock hauling capacities (ei: I don't want the rear end sitting on the bump stops the entire time when the truck is loaded with 2 dirt bikes + gear). I've been looking at the XII Underground lowering kit which is about $1300 with sway bars and everything which has interested me. Just curious on what setups some of you lowered guys recommend especially if the truck will be loaded with 500 pounds of dirt bikes and probably another 100 in gear / gas. The XII underground kit looks good because they say the truck will have the same load capacities, but does this require a frame notch? One more thing to add is I have Xrunner 18's on my truck. I saw ryanjboutin's truck when it was lifted and lowered on the Xrunner 18's and I loved it both ways! Sorry for all the questions and thank you in advance! Feel free to leave any suggestions about setups here!

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Old 06-17-2013, 07:23 AM   #2
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Around here, most everyone will say lift. I can appreciate both. I've been recently cruising through dropped builds too, as most of the turbo'd tacos are dropped and I've been looking specifically at those. It's ultimately your decision that you have to make, personally I think it looks kinda dumb seeing a slammed truck hauling stuff around. I don't know why, but it just doesn't seem right to me. You could do a spacer lift for very cheap (nowhere near the $1300 for the drop). I chose lift to kinda stand out, as "way back" when I did it (2011 :P) there were hardly any options for 1st gens (and still really aren't, Fabtech discontinued the spindles I have and I could never find any spacers that were specifically for the 1st gen 5 lug) plus most of the minis around where I lived were lowriders
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:26 AM   #3
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5 Lug, either lower or go LT. I've seen a couple of sick LT'd 5 luggers
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Lifting a 5 lug is generally pointless. If you are going to lower it you can get Monroe air adjust shocks that fill up to about 100 psi and increase payload by 500 pounds (they lift the rear a bit and stiffen the rear). I had those shocks when i lowered my 5 lug, worked very well to haul the bikes. You should be able to do. 3/3 or a 2/3 drop with lo pro bump stops and the air shocks an still haul the bikes fine.
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Just pull a Ryan and lift and lower as much as you want to
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:53 AM   #7
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I've subbed as I'm very interested in this discussion. I'm leaning towards lift or don't mess with. Not lower. I do a lot of work with my truck which it eats up without breaking a sweat.

When I got my truck I didn't mess with it because I was going to wait for the pretty decent tires on it to need replacing which they are close to that. I wish I'd just had done everything then though and sold the tires while they had a lot of tread because I really love the acceleration and handling characteristics of my truck after driving it for a few years. Now I'm going to change them.
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Def lift if hauling. I respect the lowered trucks but for bikes and gear it wouldn't look right in my opinion. Gas mileage won't really drop bad with 31s. I run 265/75r16 and still get between 21-22 in town and roughly 24-25 on the highway. I haul quite a bit and am happy with the larger tires. Also if u ever wanna camp or drive the bikes offroad ur screwed lowered.
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I'm leaning towards the lowering. I see a lot of the lowered guys have DJM arms, is it recommended to replace the arms if you're dropping the front that low? Also I see a lot of the slammed Taco's are notched. How far can I drop the rear without needing to notch? From what I've seen lowering the back is going to be the limiting factor if you're not notching. My main concern is keeping the truck level with whatever I choose (although a little bro lean may be acceptable in a lift =P).
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I'm leaning towards the lowering. I see a lot of the lowered guys have DJM arms, is it recommended to replace the arms if you're dropping the front that low? Also I see a lot of the slammed Taco's are notched. How far can I drop the rear without needing to notch? From what I've seen lowering the back is going to be the limiting factor if you're not notching. My main concern is keeping the truck level with whatever I choose (although a little bro lean may be acceptable in a lift =P).
3~3.5" at best without notching, and still maintain some sort of ride quality.

There's a link in my signature of lowering parts for sale.

Shoot me a PM and we can make a deal if you want multiple parts.
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