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Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by linked2002, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. Mar 2, 2014 at 1:10 PM
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    jeverich

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    I don't even own a bender.. yet.

    But from the limited research I've done, i don't think you'd get very good results by using an oversized die. Fairly certain that the dies actually specific shape to them; rather than just being a straight form to the outside of your pipe/tube. Each manufacturer is a little different - I know JD2s claim to have more R&D than JMR, etc..

    Short version. I think you'd f up your bends pretty good.
     
  2. Mar 2, 2014 at 1:12 PM
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    Just do a test bend and see how much it deformes. If its to much you can always pack the pipe with sand to help it keep its shape.
     
  3. Mar 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM
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    With how close the sizes are, I doubt it would be too bad. You'll probably just get a tad more flattening of the tube around the radius.
     
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    Need more practice, I need to weld some tabs on my roof mount light bar, but don't have anyone to teach me so YouTube it was. I'll get it eventually, it sucks I can really only do any type of mods on the weekend's since work has me out of town 4-5 days a week.
     
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    Best way to learn is get some 1/4" flat stock and lay flat beads next to each other until you get it down, then move to vertical, then to joints.
     
  6. Mar 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM
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    hi everyone i just joined this forum today. ive been working with steel for a few years now, and also attending school to become certified in several areas of welding, so im fairly savvy when creating the strongest possible design for any of steel structure. that being said, for the question im about to ask, im not looking for the easiest solution, but your advice on the strongest most effective solution.

    I am in the process of caging my cab, i am almost finished with the bed now. When assembling my cage inside the cab, would it be better to drill through the floor of the cab with the hole saw to weld my tubing to the frame? or should i just weld the tubing to a flat plate of steel, and then attach that to the floor of the cab?

    my tacoma was stock a month and a half ago and ive been working on her every weekend since, heres some pics of where im at so far on my build

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  8. Mar 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM
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    Do not just weld it to the cab. What I did is cut square holes way too big, weld to plates on top of the frame. Build the structure and then you can knock the tack welds off the plates and drop the cage to weld the top

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    Then after finishing all welding to the structure you can push back into place, re-weld the plates and gusset them

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    Then you can tack the cab floor plates back in :)

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  9. Mar 26, 2014 at 11:22 AM
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    Thanks for the replies. I tried it out and I'm satisfied with the results. :D

    1 5/8" tube in a 1.66" pipe die flattened only slightly more than the correct size, approx .03" more as far as I can tell. I wouldn't notice just by looking at it.

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    uhhh kinda stuck and though this would be the right place to come for the answer? I have a 1994 pickup (extended cab, 22re) and i want to do the whole long travel thing but i don't want to have my bed removed (actually wanna be able to put stuff in the back of my truck) so is there a MT option that allows for that?
     
  12. Mar 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM
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    I just realized this is in the LT section, weird.
     
  13. Mar 27, 2014 at 12:00 AM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    options on the front are endless. as for the rear and gaining travel without going into the bed, you could always relocate the shock mounts similar to the bamf relocation brackets. not entirely sure on how the older pickups are set up, but can't imagine a leaf spring set up having too many options. I know that's the plan for my rear if i ever save up the money to do so since I don't want to intrude on the bed space either. Other option is something like this guys set up for his 4runner. http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4675318_460s.jpg
    though that takes some serious fabbing and r&d

    good luck
     
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    wow man thats pretty solid looking i probably would have never thought of that. i like it alot, thanx for the advice. i will post some pics once i get to that part of my build. im going to finish the bed cage this weekend and hopefully have time to start on the cab
     
  15. Mar 30, 2014 at 11:08 AM
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    I know exactly what you mean.
     
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    Are you thinking about filling it in with plate or just a pure tube bumper?
     
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    looks pretty good. think it would look a little(slightly) better if the top tube was sticking out farther than the bottom one. only down side i see is the gap between the tube and lower grill/lights will be bigger.
     
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