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Floppy shifter dampener "fix"

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by metalpeddler88, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. Apr 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM
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    metalpeddler88

    metalpeddler88 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I figured I would share this, in case it helps someone else. Plus, I am bored right now. :p

    To start, I drive a 6 speed manual. For the past month or so, it seemed like my shift lever would get floppy, then somehow "fix itself". It was strange, so I naturally blamed the old shift ball seat. I ordered one of the white Delrin ball seats from Marlin Crawler, and proceeded to install it. When I took out the shift lever, I noticed that the rubber ball seat still looked fine, but the ball socket was way out of whack.

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    I luckily had a replacement one from another shift lever, so I was able to replace that right away. Even though the old ball seat appeared to be fine, I installed the new one anyway. Why not, I had it. Before I reinstalled everything, I noticed the rubber vibration dampener on/in the shift lever was loose. Looking online, there were only a few solutions. I didn't want to take it apart to re-epoxy. I didn't want to weld it. I didn't want to send it off. And I certainly didn't want to spend $150 or more to replace it. So, I came up with a "temporary" solution. I only say temporary because this is not the most conventional means to fix something, and I am not sure how long it'll last.

    I started by finding my Hi-Temp Red Silicone (others may work fine too, this is all I had). I started spreading it, trying to push it into the grooves of the dampener. Then I grabbed a box of finish nails. Yes I am crazy. :D I pushed nails into the gaps between the 2 parts of the shifter, and kept filling it up until the wiggle felt more sturdy. Once I got done with that, I added more silicone around it to help "seal it up".

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    Forgive me for the blurry picture, I didn't realize until after I reinstalled the shifter, and after I uploaded to my computer.

    After letting it dry for an hour, I reinstalled everything. Since the silicone takes 24 hours to cure, I only did a few "test shifts", and initial impressions was it was a vast improvement. No more floppy shifter. I can't say if it was the ball seat, socket, or the "fix" for the dampener that made such a huge difference, so I'll say all 3. When I drive more after this, I'll post my final say. If I had to put a "cost to fix" for the dampener, I would say under $10, but since I had everything already, it was free.

    Eventually, I will replace the shifter, but I am not about to spend that much money yet. Perhaps when I get a short throw shifter. :)
     
  2. Apr 4, 2014 at 4:20 PM
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    metalpeddler88

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    It's only been a day, but I figured I'd give an update. ;)

    The shifter feels great. A much more "defined" shift than I had before. As for vibrations, there is minimal. It is just as I would expect/have had in my other stickshift cars. Now the next test, how long will it last. But for now, I am happy! :D
     
  3. Apr 24, 2014 at 5:07 AM
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    metalpeddler88

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    Well, here's more of an update for anyone looking here.

    I ended up installing a URD short shifter kit, and used this shifter instead of a new one. Within a week, it is loose again. I'm not entirely sure how long it would have lasted without the short shifter kit, but nonetheless, attempt one to fix is was a failure. :( Onto attempt 2.

    Next attempt is just making it more of a permanent solution, instead of a temporary "fix". I'm going to drill out some holes at different points on the shifter, and push a 1/4" rod through. Break out the welder, and start spot welding each end. :eek: Yes, I am aware of the rubber, and now silicone, and I do not care. A metal rod is $3, and a new shifter from Toyota is $150, what would you do?

    I was enjoying the new feel, and now it's gone again, so I am impatient and want it back. I do feel a little dumb trying something stupid, and it didn't work out. But hey, it's all learning experience. That, and you guys now get a little laugh. :eek:
     
  4. Apr 24, 2014 at 5:32 AM
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    357sig

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