Lug nuts

CometKat · 05-02-2008, 09:28 AM

I hope this is not too dumb a question. But is there any difference in the lug nuts for a 05-08 steel wheel vs. an alloy (quality or otherwise)? I see lots of OEM alloy wheels for sale without the nuts.

lsocoee · 05-02-2008, 09:44 AM

Seems like a good question to me. I probably wouldn't have asked, but I could see there might be a difference.

zmtnbik · 05-03-2008, 09:39 AM

There is a difference between stock steel wheels and alloy wheels.
Steelies are acorn shaped:

Alloys are short shank design:

CometKat · 05-03-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmtnbik

There is a difference between stock steel wheels and alloy wheels.
Steelies are acorn shaped:

Alloys are short shank design:

Does that mean they are not interchangeable?

zmtnbik · 05-03-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CometKat

Does that mean they are not interchangeable?

That is correct, not interchangeable.

ChibbMD · 05-03-2008, 04:08 PM

Yep, this is correct. They are not interchangeable. I found this out first-hand when I upgraded my stock steel wheels for alloys. I was able to find a dealership that had some used take-offs but they still cost me $5 or $6 a piece. Ouch!

yak · 05-09-2008, 06:37 PM

I just changed my 08 stock steel wheel with 07 TRD sport wheel, and it seems OK. Did i do something wrong?

mikedaz · 05-10-2008, 03:08 PM

I found this out too when I up graded to alloys. You need to get the shank style lug nuts. I bought them at the dealer for $2.50 each. $60. total for 24 lug nuts.

yak · 05-11-2008, 11:39 AM

mikedaz ans chibb, How are they not work? Do they not fit? Again, cause I did mine, and seeems to work. Make me worry now..

CometKat · 05-16-2008, 11:08 PM

Alright, so here is another obscure question. Is the OEM spare the same for the alloy equipped Tacoma and the steel wheel equipped Tacoma or is it different to accommodate the different type of lug nuts?

CometKat · 05-23-2008, 06:38 PM

Let me try another question. For those of you who have the factory TRD off-road wheels do you have a steel rim for a spare or another factory alloy? I know some of the 4runners actually have another aluminum wheel as a spare.

Toy4Life · 05-23-2008, 07:05 PM

CometKat, not only is this not a dumb question, but I'm gonna rep you for asking it. I dunno about the 2nd gen trucks, but my 02 TRD had 4 alloys and a steel spare. I've never used the spare, but I have to assume that the shank lug nuts from the alloys also worked with the steel spare. Well, now, I have aftermarket steel wheels with acorn lug nuts. I sold my stock alloys and the original lug nuts with them. Your question has brought to my attention the possibillity that the new lug nuts won't work with my old spare.

joedirt · 05-23-2008, 07:29 PM

My 05 has a steel spare. I am going to assume that if I get a flat and need to put the steel one on, the alloy nuts that I have WILL tighten up the steel wheel. I didn't get 6 extra lugnuts when I bought my truck. Or maybe I was supposed to?

CometKat · 05-23-2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yak

mikedaz ans chibb, How are they not work? Do they not fit? Again, cause I did mine, and seeems to work. Make me worry now..

After installing my new TRD off-road wheels using the proper alloy nuts, I don’t think using the nuts off the steel wheel would be a good idea. The alloy wheels are not going to fall off the truck but the interface of the acorn nut to the alloy wheel is not correct.

m&m1951 · 05-28-2008, 08:09 AM

I am in the same position looking for some chrome lugs to use on new factory alloys I have coming. Does anyone know if the shouldered Toyota chrome lug is vehicle or wheel specific--or do they fit most wheels and vehicles. I see generic lugs for Toyota/Lexus on ebay, but do not know if they will work with the alloy wheels I have coming. Size wise they are correct--1.5x12mm.

Chuy · 10-21-2008, 01:31 AM

My 07 4X4 Taco has alloy 17-inch OEM alloy wheels with shank-style lugs. However, my OEM spare is a steelie wheel with acorn-style holes. A close inspection of the shank-style OEM lugs reveals an acorn cut on the lug ends, but only a paltry 1/8" contact surface. In other words they will hold the spare for a temp period.

Some alloy wheels are set up for acorn-style lugs; so, you have to take a close look at the wheel lug cut-outs. If you see a 45 degree angle, they will be set up for acorns. A flat surface (as if someone drilled a hole right through) will require shank-style lugs. The shank length must not be longer than the thickness of the wheel where the lug goes through; otherwise, the lug will contact the rotor/wheel surface without gripping the wheel.

05-02-2008, 09:28 AM	#1
CometKat Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008, #6182 Location: Carson City NV Posts: 251 08 Tacoma 4X4 Regular Cab SR5 2008 Regular Cab Manual	Lug nuts I hope this is not too dumb a question. But is there any difference in the lug nuts for a 05-08 steel wheel vs. an alloy (quality or otherwise)? I see lots of OEM alloy wheels for sale without the nuts.

05-02-2008, 09:44 AM	#2
lsocoee Church of Zoidburg Joined: Feb 2007, #872 Location: Metairie, LA Gender: Dude Posts: 5,740 2007 PreRunner SR5 Double Cab Long B 2007 Double Cab Automatic V-6 Bed mat, URD CAI, URD MAF Calibrator, C2C Hood Struts, Wet Okole Seat Covers, Pop-n-Lok, Wet Okole Underwear	Seems like a good question to me. I probably wouldn't have asked, but I could see there might be a difference. __________________ Tacoma World: One big happily dysfunctional family.

05-09-2008, 06:37 PM	#7
yak member Joined: Mar 2008, #5334 Location: so cal Posts: 29 08 indigo dc prerunner sr5 2008 Double Cab Automatic roll n lock bed cover - tinted window - debadge - blue interior light	I just changed my 08 stock steel wheel with 07 TRD sport wheel, and it seems OK. Did i do something wrong? __________________ 08 indigo prerunner sr5

05-11-2008, 11:39 AM	#9
yak member Joined: Mar 2008, #5334 Location: so cal Posts: 29 08 indigo dc prerunner sr5 2008 Double Cab Automatic roll n lock bed cover - tinted window - debadge - blue interior light	mikedaz ans chibb, How are they not work? Do they not fit? Again, cause I did mine, and seeems to work. Make me worry now.. __________________ 08 indigo prerunner sr5

05-23-2008, 07:05 PM	#12
Toy4Life Walking in shadows Joined: Aug 2007, #2566 Location: Slippery Rock, PA Age: 29 Posts: 3,330 Radiant Red 02 TRD Offroad 2002 Access Cab Automatic 3.4L V6 Toytec 3" Lift(TAC3-PC-1000), 1" diff. drop, Tacoma World sticker, gray wire mod, 15x8 black steel wheels, 33/10.5/15 BFG AT KO's, Hella 500's(cracked), K&N High Flow air filter, trash can tonneau cover, Manik Brush Guard(whenever I get the brackets[I'm impatiently waiting!])	CometKat, not only is this not a dumb question, but I'm gonna rep you for asking it. I dunno about the 2nd gen trucks, but my 02 TRD had 4 alloys and a steel spare. I've never used the spare, but I have to assume that the shank lug nuts from the alloys also worked with the steel spare. Well, now, I have aftermarket steel wheels with acorn lug nuts. I sold my stock alloys and the original lug nuts with them. Your question has brought to my attention the possibillity that the new lug nuts won't work with my old spare. __________________

05-03-2008, 09:39 AM	#3
zmtnbik FMLYHM Joined: Aug 2007, #2534 Posts: 194 4x4 Trd Off-road 2006 Access Cab Manual Donahoe (Icon) C/O, TC UCA's, Dakar leafs, BilStein 5125's, 285/70/17 BFG MT KM2's, Raceline Renegade 17x9's, u-bolt flip kit, debadged, TRD CAI, TRD exhaust, URD MAF controller, 20% front window tint, 3M clear bra on bumper, cam locks in all storage compartments, fog light mod, Alpine X100 deck, Co	There is a difference between stock steel wheels and alloy wheels. Steelies are acorn shaped: Alloys are short shank design:

05-03-2008, 04:08 PM	#6
ChibbMD Member Joined: Mar 2008, #5567 Location: Dallas, TX Gender: Male Posts: 53 08 PreRunner Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic	Yep, this is correct. They are not interchangeable. I found this out first-hand when I upgraded my stock steel wheels for alloys. I was able to find a dealership that had some used take-offs but they still cost me $5 or $6 a piece. Ouch!

05-10-2008, 03:08 PM	#8
mikedaz Junior Member Joined: Oct 2007, #3182 Location: NH. Posts: 24 07 SR5 I4 4x4, access cab, 5 speed, 2007 Access Cab Manual 4 banger bug deflector, vent guards, running boards ,stainless tip,summer + winter tires + wheels,secondary filter removed,60 series delta flowmaster,tow hitch,pop+lock	I found this out too when I up graded to alloys. You need to get the shank style lug nuts. I bought them at the dealer for $2.50 each. $60. total for 24 lug nuts.

05-16-2008, 11:08 PM	#10
CometKat Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008, #6182 Location: Carson City NV Posts: 251 08 Tacoma 4X4 Regular Cab SR5 2008 Regular Cab Manual	Alright, so here is another obscure question. Is the OEM spare the same for the alloy equipped Tacoma and the steel wheel equipped Tacoma or is it different to accommodate the different type of lug nuts?

05-23-2008, 06:38 PM	#11
CometKat Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008, #6182 Location: Carson City NV Posts: 251 08 Tacoma 4X4 Regular Cab SR5 2008 Regular Cab Manual	Let me try another question. For those of you who have the factory TRD off-road wheels do you have a steel rim for a spare or another factory alloy? I know some of the 4runners actually have another aluminum wheel as a spare.

05-23-2008, 07:29 PM	#13
joedirt Northern Alliance: Supplier Joined: Jan 2008, #4365 Location: Northern Va Age: 46 Posts: 813 Subaru Forester 2009 Double Cab Automatic H4 Foglights, Puddle Lights, iPod Adaptor, and the usual things you would associate with a suv. Yeah me.	My 05 has a steel spare. I am going to assume that if I get a flat and need to put the steel one on, the alloy nuts that I have WILL tighten up the steel wheel. I didn't get 6 extra lugnuts when I bought my truck. Or maybe I was supposed to? __________________ ^^ What mjp2* really wanted his Tacoma to look like.*

05-28-2008, 08:09 AM	#15
m&m1951 Junior Member Joined: Apr 2008, #6200 Location: west virginia Posts: 7 04 Tacoma reg cab 4x4 5spd. 4cyl. 2004 Regular Cab Manual 2.7	I am in the same position looking for some chrome lugs to use on new factory alloys I have coming. Does anyone know if the shouldered Toyota chrome lug is vehicle or wheel specific--or do they fit most wheels and vehicles. I see generic lugs for Toyota/Lexus on ebay, but do not know if they will work with the alloy wheels I have coming. Size wise they are correct--1.5x12mm.

10-21-2008, 01:31 AM	#16
Chuy Junior Member Joined: Aug 2008, #8328 Location: Lakeside, CA Posts: 4 07 Tacoma 4Dr 4X4 2007 Double Cab Automatic	My 07 4X4 Taco has alloy 17-inch OEM alloy wheels with shank-style lugs. However, my OEM spare is a steelie wheel with acorn-style holes. A close inspection of the shank-style OEM lugs reveals an acorn cut on the lug ends, but only a paltry 1/8" contact surface. In other words they will hold the spare for a temp period. Some alloy wheels are set up for acorn-style lugs; so, you have to take a close look at the wheel lug cut-outs. If you see a 45 degree angle, they will be set up for acorns. A flat surface (as if someone drilled a hole right through) will require shank-style lugs. The shank length must not be longer than the thickness of the wheel where the lug goes through; otherwise, the lug will contact the rotor/wheel surface without gripping the wheel.

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