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Installing 5100's--LCA Alignment Tab Popped Out

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by devkurf, Jun 28, 2014.

  1. Jun 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM
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    2005 DCLB all stock, putting billies at 1.75 and 1.5" Wheeler AAL on.

    Installing the 5100's on the front on the 1.75 setting. I got the passenger side coil over back on, but the alignment disk on front LCA bolt wont go back in the slot. I had to loosen the bolts to get the LCA to drop enough to get the billies on. I got everything bolted back on, and now the alignment disk is off center and I cant get it back. All the other tabs went back into place. This is the only one off.

    What can I do? The wheels are still off, its up on jack stands. I haven't touched the drivers side yet, I ran out of daylight. Any help would be appreciated.

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    I'm guessing the alignment cam bolt is frozen. I've tried turning the nut on the side of the tab that is out, but it wont budge even with a breaker bar.
     
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    Drench the cam bolt and nut with WD 40 and let it sit overnight . Or try to use rust off spray . you can get it at your auto parts store . Hope this helps
     
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    Turn the bolt head. The bolt has groves on it that keep/turn everything else that is on the bolt. I did mine two days ago and did not run into any problems like this.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. I can turn the bolt and nut freely, and I had them loose to drop the LCA down to put the billies on. Its when I went to tighten them back down I noticed it wouldnt align back into the slot, and I cant turn it any way I've tried.
     
  6. Jun 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM
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    I would start to hit things with a rubber mallet until something moves.......... Hahah all joking aside I don't realoy know what else might have happened. There is really nothing like that that can go wrong. Good luck.
     
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    Were you able to move yours after you had the coilover back in place, or will they only move when everything is dis-assembled?
     
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    Ok do this , I did this to the cam alignment disk when I put my billies in and the cam alignment disk shifted . Take a flat head screwdriver and put it in one of the slots of the cam alignment disk ( the oval slots )and tap the screwdriver with the hammer till it seats back into place . I had to do this with mine two weeks ago when I installed the 5100s
     
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    I can turn the bolt head freely, it just loosens the nut with this semi circular collar. This nut fits over another sleeve that goes through the LCA bushing. The bolt goes through that sleeve. As of yet I cant get anything to move to adjust it back.
     
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    Good advice, I'll give it a shot first thing in the morning. It must be really siezed in there. I tried turning the sleeve the disk nut sits on with a wrench and breaker bar and couldnt get it to budge.
     
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    Sorry just noticed your cam alignment bolt does not have the slots like my 04 . Tap the top of the cam alignment disk with a flat head and a hammer downward
     
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    good luck on that , sometimes working on our vehicles sucks . I changed all the gear oils today and when I drained the old oil back in the bottle I noticed a copper washer in the bottom of the oil pan . I did the rear end , transfer case and the front dif . So I had to track down were it came from and had to drane the new oil out of the front dif and install the washer and then refill . uuggg
     
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    Im looking at the picture of your cam bolt . It looks like the cam disk is spot welded to the control arm at the bottom of the disk . Check that out . Thats why you cant spin the disk . Let me know if im right or wrong after looking at it .
     
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    Yeah, it does look like it, but it's not. I can spin the cam disk by hand all the way off with ease. Its the sleeve that goes through the metal bushing sleeve that wont move. I have been researching it on here, and I think I have a siezed alignment cam.
     
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    well good luck on it , sorry I couldn't help . Hopefully other guys with more experience will chime in .
     
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    So, I've been messing with it some this morning, and I was able to get the disk back in the alignment tabs. However, I think the alignment disk nut just stripped on the sleeve that goes through the bushing, it turns without the sleeve moving. The threads on the bolt and disk nut are still good and it tightens up.

    I dont see how it could fail completely, my alignment just wont be right until I get the bushing and cam bolts replaced. Here is my question. Would it be totally unsafe to drive it this way?

    On a side note, I started the drivers side, and the lca bolts are move freely.
     
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  17. Jun 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM
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    If you can get that bolt to tighten up tight and there is a alignment shop close to your house then you should be ok as long as you drive slow , but once U get everything put back together I would drive strait to enlightenment shop and get it fixed asap . You dont want to do anymore damage . Its better to be safe then sorry .
     
  18. Jul 2, 2014 at 3:33 PM
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    So how did it turn out ? What was the problem ?
     
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    I think the sleeve the cam bolt goes through was seized to the metal of the bushing. I hit it with 2 cans of penetrating lube, and waited 48 hours. When I got home from work Monday, I took the tire off expecting a battle, and it broke loose almost effortlessly.

    I threw it back together, ran it straight to the alignment shop, and told him what trouble I had. He didn't report having any problems, and the specs came back right on. I'll just keep an eye on it knowing I'll probably need new upper and lower control arm bushings and cam bolts soon.

    The only remaining problem is it's an inch higher on the passenger side in the front, where it was maybe half an inch or less before. So I've got taco lean. Its also close to half an inch higher in the back on the passenger side. I've double checked everything and can't find out why the lift exaggerated it. I couldnt have switched coils, because I never had them both off at the same time.

    Some of that may be due having the sway bar off. I'm waiting on sway bar end links right now, one of the nuts wouldn't come off, so I cut it off.
     
  20. Jul 2, 2014 at 5:06 PM
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    No I didn't. I kept the stock coils which I thought already compensated for the taco lean. Thats why I was overly cautious not to remove both of them at the same time.
     

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