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Old 09-25-2009, 04:33 AM   #41
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Like i said if i could ever make a trip, i would just to see what its about. Also ive been outrun by a girl, 2 that i remember, one is the national womens MX champ, Heather Rose, or Byrd, dont know what name she is useing now. right now i have 2 250r's, 2 400ex's a 450r, and a wolverine.

Anyway, back to being dangerous and people allways getting hurt, do you think some of the accidents could/can been avoided if people would not try to ride over their heads, or use caution when going out? Pushing yourself is fun, but IMO most people out there, dunes, woods, anywhere is uauslly riding out of their ability, too much motor, and just dosent have any real reason to be on a bike or atv.
I think the biggest cause of accidents in the dunes are people being unfamiliar with the terrain and then being over confident in their abilities.
It seems that people who are new to the dunes, but have ridden in other terrains and are good riders tend to crash more often than people who have been around the dunes and may not be so good of a rider but is cautious.
I think most of the deaths are people who were new to the dunes.
Those who are familiar with the dunes crash when they get too confident with their abilities, I think that is the same on tracks or trails also.
I absolutely think some people put themselves in unnecessary danger by becoming over confident and riding beyond their ability in all types of offroading.
Ref my above stories.. the sandrail crash, they had just bought the car, I heard it was their 1st trip out with it, so overconfidence and unfamiliar with the veh and terrain...the quad crash, they were riding over their ability and for the conditions of the terrain even though they were veteran dune riders.

My first experience on a quad was in the dunes on a 450, bought myself a z400 cause I didn't think I'd ever need to power of a 450 for my style/ability. My z400 got me around just fine in the dunes and on the trails, even keeping up with the guys on the 450's but with a lot of effort on my part. I rode that for 2 years and now I have added an ltr450, I don't ride it any harder than I did my 400, it just takes less effort (constant shifting) on my part to ride with the guys. I'm actually more comfortable on the ltr450 in the dunes because of the wider stance and lower center of gravity, not to mention the stock suspension is much more forgiving. The group I ride with usually cruises the dunes in about 4th gear, 3rd gear rides for when some of the girls join in. Most of us don't enjoy 5th gear pinned runs, to technical to enjoy the ride. We are some of the safest riders out there.
My collection is a z400, ltr450, yfz450, funco sandrail, atc70 .
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i just want to say i am so jealous of everyone that lives near & gets to go to glamis and any other dunes....

enjoy it!

PA sucks!
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i just want to say i am so jealous of everyone that lives near & gets to go to glamis and any other dunes....

enjoy it!

PA sucks!
I'm originally from Pennsylvania and moved out here to Arizona back in 1993.I am so glad I did.Discovered Glamis in 1998.Right now my anticipation for our first trip this season(Halloween)is eating away at me like cancer!I'm addicted to the sand to say the least.
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I'm originally from Pennsylvania and moved out here to Arizona back in 1993.I am so glad I did.Discovered Glamis in 1998.Right now my anticipation for our first trip this season(Halloween)is eating away at me like cancer!I'm addicted to the sand to say the least.

oh and the success story just rubbs it innn!! haha.. jk jk

that's great brother! i want to get out there for a vacation or something, i have to ride dunes before i die..

have fun and stay safe!
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Hill climbs are for people who like to race ie 'hillshooters' that is not duning. Jumping lips a few times when you find a good jump is not duning, a lot of people on dirt bikes will jump all day long, still that is not duning. Roosting the top of a hill is just showing off, not duning.

This video here shows some of the technical riding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3iHkyavBqQ
But until you have done it its very hard to see it from the view of the rider, videos don't do it justice.
If you ever get the chance to visit some dunes you should try it out .


How is it not technical?? Ride as fast as you want and fly off the top of a dune at 40-50mph to find out the other side is straight down and now you are falling 200ft....or go off the top of the same dune and not know how to make the transition and you are rolling 200ft straight down the dune.
Or you are cruising along 5th gear pinned and all of a sudden you are in a witches eye that you couldn't see and slam into a wall of sand.
Ride all day one day and think you know the dunes only to find out they moved and changed during the night and what was a roller one day is now a sharp razor. Dunes are not like a track where you can see what is coming up in front of you and riding the same thing over and over again. Or like following a trail, if you stay on the trail it obviously leads somewhere and not into a tree or off a cliff..in the dunes just because you follow some tracks does not mean you have the skill of that rider to be able to make the same transition he/she did. Sand robs your power, if you get scared and slow down too much you will not make it up the hill or through the transition, hit the brakes or let off the throttle at the wrong moment and you will lose traction and crash.
Not many quads out in the dunes actually have long travel. All our quads are stock suspension and we get around just fine. We just got a long travel sandrail, but had a midtravel before that.

Come out for a ride with me and see if you can keep up with a girl . What do you ride??


Well said .
Some friends of mine and I were out at Coral Pink Dunes in Utah, we all rode sand so it wasn't new to us... 5 of us were heading back to camp, it was around noon and the sun was straight up, gets rid of all the shadows and the sand appears flat, you can't see the drop offs and at Coral pink they are steep. So 1 guy split from the group to get back faster, 2 more took off faster than me and 1 other guy cared to ride..me and that guy came to the edge of a drop off and luckily slammed on the brakes before we landed on top of our 2 friends who had left us...1 had gone off the edge and slammed into the facing hill side...the guy following him hit the brakes to avoid landing on top of the guy and ending up rolling down the hill with the bike landing on top of him..he suffered 5 broken ribs, a broken collar bone and a punctured lung, we got him to the hospital about 45 mins away and they flew him to the hospital where we live, the other guy had internal bruising and a concussion, he was in and out of consciousness the entire times and he spent the night in the hospital.
It was not nice seeing my friends laying at the bottom of a hill with the bikes upside down and mangled.
There are too many stories where the people didn't survive. You never ride in the dunes alone, if you crash it could be hours or even days before someone finds you.
i dont ride haha im not good enough for it to be technical.... i just take my truck out...

im not dissing on it at all either it looks soooo fun!
i have only ridden quads
raptors and banshees thats it lol
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Just got back yesterday,,,, sand was really soft and truck did not like it,,,lol but still able to play in the sand a jump the toyota.... weather was great....
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I think the biggest cause of accidents in the dunes are people being unfamiliar with the terrain
Yup Yup. The last time I was there was about 10 years ago when I went over a razorback and took a dive about 30 feet down. I was in my 1998 Nissan Frontier. I totally hit the front end and made the airbag deploy. Haven't been back since. It was near the obsorn overlook. You should have seen that bill for towing using a caterpillar, storage, towing to Pacific Beach and then body work/repair. WOW. $13k later.

Have fun... watch out for the tailgate guy. Haha. I had to.
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i just want to say i am so jealous of everyone that lives near & gets to go to glamis and any other dunes....

enjoy it!

PA sucks!
I have been out to Silver Lake dunes in Mi. Pretty cool, But Pa does not suck as far as riding goes. Not saying it couldn't be better, But really is not that bad. Our closest thing to Glamis is Coal Hill at Trevorton on the big weekends! Smurfs pond, Mud Road, Good stuff!
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lol... you say that like you were going to go, but because I'm going now you're not going to

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I work the local trauma center. And you guys have NO IDEA! how much stupidity goes on, on Halloween,tg,and xmas. We take trauma after trauma all weekend during these times. I will get patients from the dunes,glamis,ocotillo all weekend for the next few months. Countless patients come through my dept. Everyone is a newb that some "freind" got drunk and put on the back of a quad. The local er to glamis sees well over a hundred patients a day during these weekends. I could tell you stories for hours.
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We had a great weekend at "G".Here is a video of a truck that rolled in front of us at the top of Olds.

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Another short video I took at Olds on Halloween day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHYMWgTOqc


Alot less people in Glamis then I expected for the start of the season.
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