Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Garage > Audio & Video

Notices

Supersuks 2010 Tacoma Audio Build

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-22-2010, 02:29 PM   #21
Senior Member
ToyoDrew will become famous soon enoughToyoDrew will become famous soon enough
 
ToyoDrew's Avatar
Air Force:
Joined: Sep 2010, #43262
Location: St. Louis area
Gender: Male
Posts: 167
ToyoDrew's Tacoma Gallery
I haven't worked with fiberglass, but when I worked with bondo, sanding a curved surface was just as big of a pain as you seem to be having. lol I was very surprised how long it took me...
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 02:44 PM   #22
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
I know what you mean. All I did last night was sand and apply more filler then sand. At least its looking a lot better now. Just need to knock down some high spots and feather the edges and it should be ready for some paint!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:20 PM   #23
Senior Member
rscecil007 will become famous soon enoughrscecil007 will become famous soon enough
Joined: Mar 2009, #14605
Location: Seattle
Gender: Male
Posts: 189
rscecil007's Tacoma Gallery
sweet, can't wait to see them finished.

Can you me a favor? Can you take some pics of your install process when you put them in? I'm more interested in what the area behind your kicks looks like before you start, and what all you have to move (wires/harnesses,etc) and where you move it to, in order to make room for the speakers and the kicks to work.

From what I've looked at, behind the passenger side doesn't look bad. The drivers side looks to be a real adventure...

My tweeters should be here next week, so I'm going to start glassing them into my a-pillar panels. Should really help, the stock locations are horrible.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:35 PM   #24
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
The way I constructed my kicks allow me to install it without moving anything. All I have to do is push the wiring in about a 1/2" or so which is an easy task with some zipties. I'll take some pics when I get home.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:40 PM   #25
Senior Member
rscecil007 will become famous soon enoughrscecil007 will become famous soon enough
Joined: Mar 2009, #14605
Location: Seattle
Gender: Male
Posts: 189
rscecil007's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by supersuk View Post
The way I constructed my kicks allow me to install it without moving anything. All I have to do is push the wiring in about a 1/2" or so which is an easy task with some zipties. I'll take some pics when I get home.
Oh nice! That will help tremendously.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 11:32 AM   #26
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
Ok, here is the kick panel installed and showing the wires. You can see that I have a lot of clearance where the speaker magnet would go. Hope these pics help...lmk if you need more specific angles or locations.





  Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 11:38 AM   #27
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
I bought this memory closed cell foam sanding block made by motorcraft and it helps with sanding curves so much! It seriously helped me to knock down high spots in the curves and make it look more smooth. Don't know how I sanded without this thing!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 11:52 AM   #28
Senior Member
rscecil007 will become famous soon enoughrscecil007 will become famous soon enough
Joined: Mar 2009, #14605
Location: Seattle
Gender: Male
Posts: 189
rscecil007's Tacoma Gallery
Awesome, thank you! You still have full use of your e-brake (looks like it from the pics).

How did you go about aiming yours? Are both aimed at the overhead light or something similar?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 12:03 PM   #29
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
Yes, I have full use of everything. Even the footrest, although I have to put my foot on it at an angle. Still useful. hahaha I aimed the speakers to each person head, meaning driver side aimed to the passenger left ear and the passenger side aimed to the driver right ear. I estimate the driver side is about 15-20 degrees off-axis at most. These mids have pretty decent off axis response up to 4-5kish, which is where I plan to cross them over. I only aimed them this way to give me more room for my feet.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 06:15 PM   #30
Sounds Gooooood
ItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
ItalynStylion's Avatar
Name: Steven
Joined: Jun 2009, #18467
Location: DFW, Tx.
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,396
ItalynStylion's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by supersuk View Post
I bought this memory closed cell foam sanding block made by motorcraft and it helps with sanding curves so much! It seriously helped me to knock down high spots in the curves and make it look more smooth. Don't know how I sanded without this thing!
That makes so much sense...why do I not own one!?!


Kicks look good man. I think they'll turn out very nicely!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2010, 01:35 PM   #31
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
I worked on the pods more this weekend and got around to making the other one. So far one is complete and ready for paint while the other just had 1 layer of chopped mat applied. I will apply filler during the course of this week and hopefully will be ready for paint by Sunday.

I auditioned the pods for a little while and so far they sound pretty good. I'm really impressed with the Peerless HDS Exclusive mids. They have a level of detail that I haven't heard in other speakers and are very smooth. Using two channels of the JL Audio 300/4 to power the speakers, they get plenty loud and don't sound strained at all. In its current state, the stage is pulled to the right. Most likely because the right kick has a direct line of sight to my right ear. The left kick is somewhat blocked by my steering wheel, but I can still see it. Hopefully with some tuning it'll have a solid center image. After I finish making the tweeter pods, hopefully it'll raise the stage a little. Right now its about chest height. I don't have any pics yet, but will in a couple days.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 03:42 PM   #32
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
So last week and this week has been a sad week since one of my channels on my PXA-H700 went dead. I removed it and sent it back to alpine for repairs. Its a good thing I had a PXA-H100 lying around and decided to install it to try out the imprint feature. This is how I hooked everything up:

Front: Hooked this up to the JL 300/4 using only two channels of input to actively crossover the mid and high.
Rear: Hooked this up to the JL 300/2 for the midbass
Sub: Hooked this up to the JL 250/1 for the sub

This is the only way I could figure out to connect all my components and let the imprint unit auto tune everything. I used all 6 recommended test positions from the imprint software using a 42" camera tripod made by targus to hold the mic in the correct positions. The amp gain settings were untouched from the previous install using the PXA-H100

Here is my findings:
1. The highs are a little to bright for my tastes, just like everyone says. I attenuated the tweeters a little by adjusting the gains on the amp.
2. The bass is def there. Its defined and hits pretty hard. Almost makes my sub sound like its in a sealed enclosure.
3. The center image has been set pretty well, however the sweet spot is very small. Most people say that the image gets pulled to the right. My head needs to be right at the center of the headrest for the perfect center image. If not, it sounds as if the center image gets shifted more towards the right.
4. The Midbass is a little too strong. This could be due to resonances in my doors since I didn't apply the sound deadener yet. I'm just too lazy.

Overall, i'm pretty happy with the results. Just wish I could adjust the eq after running the imprint...I'll mess around with this even more when I find some time. I know i'm prolly missing a lot more info, but if you have any questions just ask.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 05:28 PM   #33
Sounds Gooooood
ItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
ItalynStylion's Avatar
Name: Steven
Joined: Jun 2009, #18467
Location: DFW, Tx.
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,396
ItalynStylion's Tacoma Gallery
I think Npdang did a lot of different testing/tweaking with imprint to get some very different results. I know it's not what you plan to run in the long run but you might check out some of his threads on the subject to figure out how to make the most of it till you get your other unit back.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 06:59 PM   #34
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
I read as much of the imprint posts as I could on DIY and applied every method possible. The best result came from the software suggestions using all 6 positions. All the others the treble was blazing hot, the bass was just missing and the midbass was weak. What I also learned was that the first mic position is the most important. Make sure that the mic is exactly where your head will normally be while driving. One time I started with the mic in the center of the vehicle and all the other measurements where the imprint told me to put it and the image was exactly in the center of the vehicle above the center console. So I just assumed that is the most crucial measurement.

Its pretty cool technology, but would be even more cooler if all those frequency points, phase, and time alignment could be user adjustable! Then we would have the best processor possible! I wonder if someone can crack the software so that we can send our own data to the PXA-H100. Its all set up in a certain way in excel and can be viewed by the user. It saves every run you do with the imprint by date.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 07:18 PM   #35
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
Italian - I tried out the reference disk and that really helped me point out flaws of my system! Its an awesome disk and i'm happy to have it! Thank you.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 08:03 PM   #36
Sounds Gooooood
ItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shedItalynStylion is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
ItalynStylion's Avatar
Name: Steven
Joined: Jun 2009, #18467
Location: DFW, Tx.
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,396
ItalynStylion's Tacoma Gallery
You're welcome man! Not only is it good to find the flaws but it's also great to see what your system can really do!

Starting with a good recording is key to getting the most out of it and you really have a lot to choose from on there.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2010, 01:13 PM   #37
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
Over the weekend, I was able to begin the final process of finishing the right kick panel and getting it ready for paint. Not done yet since I did run out of time. However it is coming out pretty nice.

As for the tweeters, I temporarily mounted them in the OEM tweeter locations until I finish the tweeter pods. Hopefully the upcoming weekend? Anyways, here's some pics:





  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2010, 08:11 PM   #38
Senior Member
cmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to beholdcmytacoma is a splendid one to behold
 
cmytacoma's Avatar
Joined: Jul 2008, #7874
Location: Humboldt county NORCAL
Posts: 399
cmytacoma's Tacoma Gallery


I totally cheated though and bought these off of audio dave on DIY about 2.5 years ago! they sound amazing and he recomended the dayton 8s for the door and sound awesome...i also have the dayton HO's but 2 in a sealed box. how much and could would u build a ported dual ten box for me? id relocate the the amp to the other cubby under drivers side seat. sx 900.4 in passenger side under seat storage compartment!
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2010, 08:12 PM   #39
Panda Jerk
THXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shedTHXEY is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
THXEY's Avatar
Name: Jacob
Joined: Dec 2008, #11614
Location: San Diego
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,401
THXEY's Tacoma Gallery
sweet!!! thats so sick i wanna do that too
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2010, 08:18 PM   #40
supersuk [OP] supersuk is offline
Senior Member
supersuk is on a distinguished road
Joined: Apr 2009, #15529
Location: Honolulu, HI
Gender: Male
Posts: 111
supersuk's Tacoma Gallery
I don't think you could fit two of these ported back there...One box already takes up almost half of the space and you'd have to have enough room for the ports. Maybe some clever design would work though. Possibly a sub on each side with ports going through the center firing up. That could possibly work if I tune it higher then 30hz which would allow a shorter port. Instead of using two small round ports, i'd have to use square or rectangular. Honestly, I wouldn't mind having two of these subs back there!

Now you got me thinking. I wanna design that...I'll let you know what I come up with, but its not a priority right now. This would probably gonna cost you an arm and a leg to ship over to you from hawaii.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Build 2010 Tacoma Double Cab TRD Sport (Need Help??) aubi1414 2nd Gen. Tacomas 3 08-03-2012 08:55 PM
All Beef Taco’s 2010 Tacoma Build All Beef Taco 2nd Gen. Builds 34 07-24-2012 04:38 PM
Need 2010 Tacoma Audio Wiring Diagram GSteve Audio & Video 4 06-24-2012 08:59 AM
2010 Tacoma Audio XD40SC Audio & Video 8 02-07-2012 11:42 AM
2011 Tacoma Audio Build Advice? MyNameIsLego Audio & Video 6 10-24-2011 01:50 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.