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Old 03-11-2013, 07:52 AM   #1
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What makes a good speaker?

So i'm looking to add a component set to the front doors and probably some sort of midbass speaker to the rear doors. I'm sure this question has been answered at some point but I couldn't find a thread based on my search input. Question is what makes a good speaker? There are component sets anywhere from $50 all the way up to $4000 maybe more! I'm not trying to break the bank but I like a clean crisp sound. What should I look for in the makeup of a speaker I guess is my question so that I know i'm getting a good speaker. I'm not an audio guru but following threads posted by other members once I have all the parts that I want for a system I plan to install the system myself so I will be running new wire and connecting them to an amp.

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Thanks for the recommendation, but the question is what makes the hifonics you recommend better than say a set of kenwood speakers for instance?
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What's a good speaker? Listen to them and if you like them, buy them. Everyone's listening preference is different. So if like the sound of them then buy them.
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Its not possible to listen to all of them and you can get a way better deal online than going into a store and buying some. Obviously I can read reviews and see what people are saying about them as well. I'm just trying to figure out if there are certian parts to a speaker that would make them better than others. Speaker composition, surround material type, sesitivity, frequency response, etc. I know its not an easy quesiton to answer just looking for a little direction while in my search.
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Go to your local car audio store listen to some and if you like them buy them online. I like hard metal dome tweeters like titanium where others prefer soft dome like silk. It's all listening preference.
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Go to your local car audio store listen to some and if you like them buy them online. I like hard metal dome tweeters like titanium where others prefer soft dome like silk. It's all listening preference.
You have alot of speakers in your truck! What is your four channel amp hooked to and what are you running off of the head unit? I assume your other amp is strictly for the subs?
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Materials is a key factor. Design. Personally I love Focals. The 30th Anniversay 6.5 component set sounds AMAZING in my truck. My mid/low bass from my door speakers is more than the JBL 8inch sub that came with the truck.

Here is a link about why speakers are different.. It's for home speakers but same idea really.

http://www.techhive.com/article/2000...n-another.html
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The 4 channel is running two sets of JL Audio ZR components front and rear and another set of ZR tweeters in the rear. The other amp is a mono running the two 13TW5's. Nothing is ran off the headunit. Most people suggest focusing on the front for front sound staging like in a concert and running the rear off the headunit or leaving them out completely. I choose to run the rear and run components on the rear. My cab is smaller then a gen2 so its like having all the speakers up front and close to me anyways.
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Materials is a key factor. Design. Personally I love Focals. The 30th Anniversay 6.5 component set sounds AMAZING in my truck. My mid/low bass from my door speakers is more than the JBL 8inch sub that came with the truck.

Here is a link about why speakers are different.. It's for home speakers but same idea really.

http://www.techhive.com/article/2000...n-another.html
Thanks I'll read this and see if it helps me.
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Thanks for the recommendation, but the question is what makes the hifonics you recommend better than say a set of kenwood speakers for instance?
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The 4 channel is running two sets of JL Audio ZR components front and rear and another set of ZR tweeters in the rear. The other amp is a mono running the two 13TW5's. Nothing is ran off the headunit. Most people suggest focusing on the front for front sound staging like in a concert and running the rear off the headunit or leaving them out completely. I choose to run the rear and run components on the rear. My cab is smaller then a gen2 so its like having all the speakers up front and close to me anyways.
So on the four channel is power run from the amp to a crossover in each door and back pannel and the crossover decides how much power each speaker gets? I ask because I know that typically the midrange speaker can handle more watts than a tweeter can. Like I said before i'm not an audio guru at all so i'm just trying to figure some things out. I have to purchase an amp at some point and I was planning on doing what you mentioned above and just running the rear speakers off of the headunit but if I can run the front components and rear speakers all off an amp I'd probably go that route instead.

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Yes I am running 150watts to each of the 4 components and the crossover filters the frequency.
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Crutchfield get them there. Alpine Type S speakers sound fantastic in my truck. I am very picky about sound and I'm impressed for how much I paid (150) for 4. You Defiantly need the audio reflective insulation.
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Well, stupid me should learn to read better. I guess having played with car audio stuff for 20 years (as I have) doesn't give me a feel for what's what. But like I said, don't listen to me. Good luck.
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Like others have already said, its ultimately up to what you think sounds best. Generally the more expensive speakers will sound better, but not all the time. I know you're looking for X is better than Y when it comes to speakers, but that isn't always the case. However, there are some things which make a definite difference though. The materials used can have a dramatic impact on the sound.

For the woofer, there are lots of materials used. You want to look for materials that are rigid and will not flex as much. Distortion occurs when the cone flexes. Woofer cones are made out of everything from everyday materials like paper and aluminum to more complicated things like polypropylene and kevlar. Here's a list of nearly all the materials used to build speakers. But remember, its whatever sounds best to you.

You'll likely end up with tweeters made of either silk or metal (aluminum, titanium, etc). Either one is great as a material. Some people love one and hate the other, while others don't have a preference.

While you're researching online, keep in mind that some of high-end brands have similar specs (i.e. frequency, wattage, responsiveness, etc.) as some of the low-end brands. So don't just go online and look for good specs and a low price. For instance, the best set of component speakers I've heard were made by Hertz. The Hertz HSK165 components have a slightly narrower frequency range than the Sony XS-GTX1622S components. I don't know an exact price for the Hertz, but they're probably in the $500-$600 range and could be more. Whereas the Sonys will set you back $120. The Hertz speakers will likely sound much better to you even with a slightly narrower frequency range. That's why listening to speakers is so important.

I always tell people to just go to several local car audio stores and skip looking at speakers online. This will give you a better idea of which brands your ears like better. Speaker manufacturers tend to have a similar sound from their speakers, but not always. So if you like a set of Alpines, for instance, don't assume that you'll like every Alpine speaker.

You'll probably want to do a bit of online research to make sure the speakers you're thinking of buying have good reviews from other people. You don't want to end up with speakers that are known to give out after a year. From there you can narrow it down to perhaps 2 or 3 sets of speakers. Then go back to the store to listen again and then buy your favorite.

When you go to the stores, make sure to take your iPod or some CDs so you can demo music that you're already familiar with. That way you aren't forced to listen to the radio or whatever Top 40 song the store has on hand.

Good luck with finding some speakers and keep us updated when you buy them!
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I believe I am going to go with the Polk Audio DXi6500 6-1/2" component speaker set. Haven't made a purchase yet but have always heard good things about them in the past an here lately on the forum. I used to have a pretty nice set of mb quart speakers so I was leaning that way as well but I believe ultimately I'm goin to give the Polks a shot.
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I believe I am going to go with the Polk Audio DXi6500 6-1/2" component speaker set. Haven't made a purchase yet but have always heard good things about them in the past an here lately on the forum. I used to have a pretty nice set of mb quart speakers so I was leaning that way as well but I believe ultimately I'm goin to give the Polks a shot.
Have you heard them? I hated them. A very directional speaker that the tweeter cant be mounted in the stock location. Only buy a speaker you have heard prior to purchase. I have had multiple multi thousand dollar systems and that is my best advice. It is the same advice you will get from anyone with any experience. Other people's opinions are worthless. For example... I think anyone who would buy a Polk car speaker is on crack. They sound terrible from the cheapest to the most expensive (speakers that cost less sound better at any of their price points) and especially so in our truck's factory location. All current MB Quarts suck too. They produce speakers that are a pale shadow of what they used to make. Please go listen to Focal, and not the garbage polyglass and low end stuff. Not everyone likes speakers that detailed because it shows flaws in the source material but you owe yourself a demo.

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Have you heard them? I hated them. A very directional speaker that the tweeter cant be mounted in the stock location. Only buy a speaker you have heard prior to purchase. I have had multiple multi thousand dollar systems and that is my best advice. It is the same advice you will get from anyone with any experience. Other people's opinions are worthless. For example... I think anyone who would buy a Polk car speaker is on crack. They sound terrible from the cheapest to the most expensive (speakers that cost less sound better at any of their price points) and especially so in our truck's factory location. All current MB Quarts suck too. They produce speakers that are a pale shadow of what they used to make. Please go listen to Focal, and not the garbage polyglass and low end stuff. Not everyone likes speakers that detailed because it shows flaws in the source material but you owe yourself a demo.

NEVER BUY BASED OFF OF REVIEWS. I REPEAT... NEVER BUY BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION.
Already bought the Polk's...guess i'm on crack They are sitting in one of my empty bedrooms at the house. Trying to decide which HU to get and what 5 channel amp to get now. Looking at the MB Quart ONX4.80/500, Alpine V70, or the Kenwood X700-5. Makes me wonder about the MB Quart amp now if you are saying their speakers are now crap. Thats the second time i've heard that about their speakers here recently though. I definatley didn't think the old ones I had were crap, but I bought those in like 97 or 98 probably. Think i'm leaning towards the Kenwood amp though, I seem to be able to get the best price on it and it will push my whole system fine so it seems.
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