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Old 04-08-2009, 12:33 AM   #1
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how to plug an amplifier directly to the battery?

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I want to add an amplifier for a subwoofer, this amplifier is only 220w of max power with a sub of 250wmax too, but for plug the amplifier, Do I NEED to go to the battery or I can plug it on the headunit wires? Because I think it doesn't need high power and I don't know how to go to the battery with the cables
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yes, you will need to go to the battery. the hu has no constant power output to support an amplifier. amplifiers are deigned to be used this way.
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Please do not take offense with this...but with that question, it seems you really need to have someone do this for you, or have someone that knows what they are doing help you out. That's what friends are for.

An amp needs to be wired straight from the battery due to it's power requirements. The HU only triggers a small turn-on signal to turn the amp on and off. The small 12v power wires that are used to power the head unit are completely inadequate for an external amp.
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Please do not take offense with this...but with that question, it seems you really need to have someone do this for you,
i respectfully disagree. if he is going to learn, there is no better way then research, and doing it himself.

just take your time, and don't cut corners...
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i respectfully disagree. if he is going to learn, there is no better way then research, and doing it himself.

just take your time, and don't cut corners...
You disagree with this?
"it seems you really need to have someone do this for you, or have someone that knows what they are doing help you out. That's what friends are for."

He doesn't know you can't use the factory wiring to the deck for an amp, or how to run wires to the battery. Don't ya think it would be better for someone to help him out?
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:39 PM   #6
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You disagree with this?
"it seems you really need to have someone do this for you, or have someone that knows what they are doing help you out. That's what friends are for."

He doesn't know you can't use the factory wiring to the deck for an amp, or how to run wires to the battery. Don't ya think it would be better for someone to help him out?
he knows now...


all i am saying is if he doesn't do it himself, if he runs into a problem later on down the road, or if something breaks, he's going to have a hell of a time fixing/diagnosing it if he didn't get his hands dirty...

it's not like we are talking about diving into a valve job or a transmission. if you take your time and don't cut corners, car audio is very easy to learn.
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Yo AF dudes simmer down LOL...


Power needs to go directly to the battery, as stated above
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im idle haha, just some debate, nothing personal
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he knows now...


all i am saying is if he doesn't do it himself, if he runs into a problem later on down the road, or if something breaks, he's going to have a hell of a time fixing/diagnosing it if he didn't get his hands dirty...

it's not like we are talking about diving into a valve job or a transmission. if you take your time and don't cut corners, car audio is very easy to learn.


I've also seen trucks/cars burned to the ground by peeps that didn't know what they were doing. Improper wiring can make for a bad day. No shame in having a friend help and SHOW him as he get's his hands dirty for the first time dealing with car audio.
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he knows now...


all i am saying is if he doesn't do it himself, if he runs into a problem later on down the road, or if something breaks, he's going to have a hell of a time fixing/diagnosing it if he didn't get his hands dirty...

it's not like we are talking about diving into a valve job or a transmission. if you take your time and don't cut corners, car audio is very easy to learn.
x2 its pretty simple wiring an amp I have only done it once and its not all that hard. I researched before I did it and learned exactly how to do it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:58 PM   #11
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I've also seen trucks/cars burned to the ground by peeps that didn't know what they were doing. Improper wiring can make for a bad day. No shame in having a friend help and SHOW him as he get's his hands dirty for the first time dealing with car audio.
i think we are on common ground. as long as he would be involved in the install. i guess i'm just weird about my audio. in my younger days i let worst buy do an install. i have never seen so many wire nuts and t taps in my life. needless to say, after looking at the mess a "professional" made of my poor car, i took it upon myself to learn how to do it.
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Yes thanks guys for trust in me, I think I can do it because I just need to know how to have a cable on the engine compartment to the interior of my car, is there a special hole? Where do you think the hole is?
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There is a large rubber grommet where some wiring already goes through the firewall on the driver side of the truck. You may be able to fit the power wire through one of the existing holes in the grommet. I'll see if I can find some pics........
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Yes thanks guys for trust in me, I think I can do it because I just need to know how to have a cable on the engine compartment to the interior of my car, is there a special hole? Where do you think the hole is?
there are several ways to do this. some people drill a hole in the firewall, install a grommet (well most people install a grommet, and all should) and run it under the carpet to the amp or distribution block. some people (including myself) run it through the floor, closer to the amp.



first you run your wire from your fuse holder (always fuse your wire BEFORE going through any chaffing areas) down into the frame rail far enough to get to the plug, which should be right under your seat.

you cant really see the actual grommet in this picture, but you get the general location.



what i did was drill a hole in the plug (black circle thing that plugs a hole through the floor) that was slightly smaller then my wire. after that i just pushed the plug onto my wire, and pulled all the slack through then just pushed the plug back in the floor.
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There is a large rubber grommet where some wiring already goes through the firewall on the driver side of the truck. You may be able to fit the power wire through one of the existing holes in the grommet. I'll see if I can find some pics........
are you talking about where the main harness goes through the fire wall? i looked at that, and i would be worried that trying to fit any other large guage wires through that might compromise it's "seal".
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are you talking about where the main harness goes through the fire wall? i looked at that, and i would be worried that trying to fit any other large guage wires through that might compromise it's "seal".
I ran a couple of wires through the main harness and haven't had any problems yet. There is a nipple that you can cut the end off of and run the power wire through that. It's a tight fit and seals pretty well.

I like how you ran your power wire through the floor. I though about doing that as well, but ended up doing it the other way. Is that Elemental Designs sound deadening you used? It looks like it from the picture.

The pics of the grommet I attached are from another thread about running wires for extra lights that I participated in. They are from jward2331's truck.
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Oops, I forgot to mention it might not hurt to tape off the area where the wires run through the grommet with electrical tape for extra protection.
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I ran a couple of wires through the main harness and haven't had any problems yet. There is a nipple that you can cut the end off of and run the power wire through that. It's a tight fit and seals pretty well.
that looks good, but i am wondering if his amp power wire might be to large for that hole. i was figuring on him using at least 4 awg
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I like how you ran your power wire through the floor. I though about doing that as well, but ended up doing it the other way. Is that Elemental Designs sound deadening you used? It looks like it from the picture.


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that looks good, but i am wondering if his amp power wire might be to large for that hole. i was figuring on him using at least 4 awgyup, that's edead. good eye
You're right, the 4 gauge power wire would be a tight squeeze! There are possibilities to run it through other places on that grommet though.

I am happy with my eDead and used quite a bit on my truck. It is pretty easy to work with!
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I am happy with my eDead and used quite a bit on my truck. It is pretty easy to work with!
that's a pic of my old 07

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i did the floor and the doors (layer on the skin, and a layer on the frame) and i went through about 70 sqft. your right about it being easy to work with, but i am not looking forward to doing my access cab...
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