Dynamat-->$1,339.00 to do Tacoma?

Ocean's · 10-31-2009, 07:22 PM

http://www.dynamat.com/download/vss/...ota_Tacoma.pdf

I want a nice job but my 43 yr old ears aren't going to be able to tell the difference netween dynamat and RAAMMAT from RAAMAudio...

Has anyone ever used the RAAMMat? I would like to do my Tacoma but now I'm scratchin my head about the price...

I'm wondering how little can i get away with?

Keason1* · 10-31-2009, 07:25 PM

ummm I would do the doors at the least. then go from there if you want more sound proofing.
and no you should not be able to tell the dif between the two

lookylookitzadam · 10-31-2009, 07:38 PM

I just used frost king insulation from Lowes. Aluminum backed on one side closed cell dense foam. Made a huge difference and cost $30 =)

Ocean's · 10-31-2009, 07:59 PM

I will check out Lowes...Thanks

Here is some other stuff called B-Quiet?

http://www.b-quiet.com/

what do yo think?

http://www.b-quiet.com/testimonials.html

atsaubrey · 11-01-2009, 07:31 AM

Personally IMO this is the best stuff on the market. I use it exclusively.

www.secondskinaudio.com

sooner07 · 11-01-2009, 08:10 AM

I don't second guess ATS, he has some good ears and uses very good products.

However, I recommend Raammat. I have used Raammat and have been nothing but pleased with it. Rick is a fantastic guy and the product is a great product especially for the price.

My recommendation of Rammat versus Secondskin is nothing against secondskin. I just havent ever used it.

I would easily recommend both products over dynamat. Dynamat is just over priced and there isn't anything inherently special about it.

huyissuperman · 11-01-2009, 09:16 AM

I used about 11 sheets (18x36) ~ $150 and free labor if you do it yourself.

Ocean's · 11-01-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huyissuperman

I used about 11 sheets (18x36) ~ $150 and free labor if you do it yourself.

Was that 11 sheets of RAAMat or second skin?

After your install and driving it a couple of days did you think it was sufficient or could have used a bit more in some areas?

thx any pics of your install...

huyissuperman · 11-01-2009, 09:23 AM

11 was more than needed since I'm a bit anal and wanted to cover the entire truck.

Anathollo · 11-01-2009, 09:28 AM

Checkout fatmat. It's the same thing as all of them. and cheap too!

http://www.fatmat.com/

atsaubrey · 11-01-2009, 01:15 PM

I would not say that "its the same as all of them".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehY72CmxyU

Here is my experience with Second Skin compared to another product out there.

Gossamer · 11-01-2009, 01:19 PM

call rick and order BXTII. I spent $230 and did all four doors and the floor. It's great stuff.

95SLE · 11-01-2009, 03:57 PM

I received this e-mail from 2nd Skin this week.

Use this code to take 15% off of our Luxury Liner Pro noise barrier
LLP15FD
Luxury Liner Pro is a mass loaded vinyl barrier that blocks the transmission of airborne noise. The foam side of this discounted batch has a slight texture that is not smooth, but will work just as well as the regular material.
Please visit our site to take advantage of this offer
www.secondskinaudio.com
Thanks so much for your attention!
ANT

Evil Monkey · 11-01-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocean's

http://www.dynamat.com/download/vss/...ota_Tacoma.pdf

I want a nice job but my 43 yr old ears aren't going to be able to tell the difference netween dynamat and RAAMMAT from RAAMAudio...

Has anyone ever used the RAAMMat? I would like to do my Tacoma but now I'm scratchin my head about the price...

I'm wondering how little can i get away with?

That's insane! Do the Raammat. I did four doors inside and out and 1/2 of the back wall for under $200 including ensolyte and the adhesive that Raammat sells:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/aud...-finished.html

My build (in my signature) also includes a graph of the music levels before and after (3rd page).

Ocean's · 11-03-2009, 05:28 AM

I was wondering now with the rains, if we get water on the floor with the sound deadening down there, can it get moldy and funky?

ItalynStylion · 11-03-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsaubrey

Personally IMO this is the best stuff on the market. I use it exclusively.

www.secondskinaudio.com

I used to feel the same way. I did my entire IS300 with Damplifier, spectrum and overkill.

However, now I've moved on to even better stuff. Sounddeadenershowdown.com is a site owned by Don, great guy. He originally started testing all sorts of deadener. His tests included adhesive strength tests, heat tolerance, and dampening effects. He originally concluded that Second Skin products were the best....that was a while ago.

Now Don has taken what he's learned from all the testing (the good the bad and the ugly) and put it into a product set of his own. His products are much better than anything else. You want to know how I know he's honest? He says that you DON'T need to cover the entire surface. He says that 25% coverage in the center of the panel is realistically all you need to make the most difference for the money. This is coming from a guy who wants to sell deadener.

In fact, I just got my shipment in from Don 3 days ago and I've got the carpet pulled out of my truck right now. I'll be starting my project either Thursday or Friday. I think he's got some sample packs too so you can get a small amount of what he offers to test for yourself. It's a little kit that has some of everything in it.

atsaubrey · 11-03-2009, 08:10 PM

no doubt Don has a good product, but to say it is better? I doubt i would go there. I truly believe either Second Skin or Don's (sound deadener showdown) is probably the best stuff out there. I will say you you not beat Second Skins customers service, Don...honestly dont know but would guess it is up to par.

ItalynStylion · 11-03-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsaubrey

no doubt Don has a good product, but to say it is better? I doubt i would go there. I truly believe either Second Skin or Don's (sound deadener showdown) is probably the best stuff out there. I will say you you not beat Second Skins customers service, Don...honestly dont know but would guess it is up to par.

The deadeners are very similar but I think the adhesive properties and heat tolerances of Don's deadener are a little better. Though I'll be honest that I've never had problems with the second skin stuff either; that stuff doesn't let go!

One thing I can say FOR CERTAIN is that Don's foam is better. It wont squash quite like overkill will. I had used some overkill in my car and it squashed dead flat after a while. The nitrite foam Don sells is way better in terms of returning to original size.

PS: I had bought a gallon of spectrum for the IS300 as well when I was doing that car. I don't think it made much difference at all.

Muy Grande · 11-03-2009, 09:29 PM

Checkout Elemental Designs....

1. eDead 45, 80 or 120 -tickness (you can buy as much as you want).
2. eDead Teklite.

I searched and read as much as possible and compared everything out there, in the end it was price. I did it my self and did all 4 doors and the rear seat wall. I spent around $80 for all the material both the eDead 80 and eDead Teklite.

I am happy with my setup.

AVIC-D3
CDT Audio 6.5 upfront
2 10" Image Dynamics behind the seats
2 Alpine Amps (450 & 800)

ItalynStylion · 11-04-2009, 05:23 AM

^I'd love to hear your setup one day man. Is there a DFW taco get together anytime soon? I'm starting to deaden tonight

10-31-2009, 07:22 PM	#1
Ocean's Member Joined: Oct 2009, #23920 Location: Bay area, CA Gender: Male Posts: 90	Dynamat-->$1,339.00 to do Tacoma? http://www.dynamat.com/download/vss/...ota_Tacoma.pdf I want a nice job but my 43 yr old ears aren't going to be able to tell the difference netween dynamat and RAAMMAT from RAAMAudio... Has anyone ever used the RAAMMat? I would like to do my Tacoma but now I'm scratchin my head about the price... I'm wondering how little can i get away with?

10-31-2009, 07:25 PM	#2
Keason1* time travel exists Joined: Mar 2008, #5246 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 1,762 07 PreRunner-Driver Mod 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 2.0 Fox Coilovers, 285-65X18" Dune Grapplers, moto metal rims. K/N CAI. 4X Hella 500's, 6K HID's, Pioneer HU, Image dynamics, rear 5100's, painted engine cover. aux reverse lights, Blacked out tails, LED cupholder mod, flowmaster 50, custom bed bar.	ummm I would do the doors at the least. then go from there if you want more sound proofing. and no you should not be able to tell the dif between the two __________________ http://zombiedefense.org/main/index.html

11-01-2009, 08:10 AM	#6
sooner07 1/2 man 1/2 amazing Joined: Feb 2008, #4783 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 28 Gender: Male Posts: 1,202 Debadged 2008 Rugged Trail 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 L V6 Working on the stereo, painted the front skid plate black to match the truck, debadged Looking into a supercharger and new exhaust.	I don't second guess ATS, he has some good ears and uses very good products. However, I recommend Raammat. I have used Raammat and have been nothing but pleased with it. Rick is a fantastic guy and the product is a great product especially for the price. My recommendation of Rammat versus Secondskin is nothing against secondskin. I just havent ever used it. I would easily recommend both products over dynamat. Dynamat is just over priced and there isn't anything inherently special about it. __________________ There are only 10 types of people in this world... those that understand binary and those who don't.

11-01-2009, 09:16 AM	#7
huyissuperman Superman Name: Huy Joined: Oct 2008, #9649 Location: SoCal Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 131 Interwebz - Cowboy Country 2004 Xtra Cab Automatic 2.7L Wheels, tires, coils, shocks, leafs, JL everything, and some other crap...	I used about 11 sheets (18x36) ~ $150 and free labor if you do it yourself. __________________ Name: Huy AIM: huyissuperman '04 Tacoma Super White (My Daily) '04 4Runner Natural White (Her Daily) '00 S2000 Silverstone (The Fiance) '09 GT-R Ivory Pearl (Garage Queen)

11-01-2009, 09:23 AM	#9
huyissuperman Superman Name: Huy Joined: Oct 2008, #9649 Location: SoCal Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 131 Interwebz - Cowboy Country 2004 Xtra Cab Automatic 2.7L Wheels, tires, coils, shocks, leafs, JL everything, and some other crap...	11 was more than needed since I'm a bit anal and wanted to cover the entire truck. __________________ Name: Huy AIM: huyissuperman '04 Tacoma Super White (My Daily) '04 4Runner Natural White (Her Daily) '00 S2000 Silverstone (The Fiance) '09 GT-R Ivory Pearl (Garage Queen)

10-31-2009, 07:38 PM	#3
lookylookitzadam Senior Member Name: Adam Joined: Jul 2009, #19777 Location: San Diego Gender: Male Posts: 129 07 PreRunner SR5 OR 2007 Double Cab Automatic	I just used frost king insulation from Lowes. Aluminum backed on one side closed cell dense foam. Made a huge difference and cost $30 =)

10-31-2009, 07:59 PM	#4
Ocean's Member Joined: Oct 2009, #23920 Location: Bay area, CA Gender: Male Posts: 90	I will check out Lowes...Thanks Here is some other stuff called B-Quiet? http://www.b-quiet.com/ what do yo think? http://www.b-quiet.com/testimonials.html

11-01-2009, 07:31 AM	#5
atsaubrey Dealer/Sales Rep for Sundown Audio. Joined: Apr 2008, #6087 Location: california Posts: 302 blue 2007 double cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic Sundown Audio 100.4 and 1500D, Pioneer 880PRS, Zapco Refernece 6.5" comps, 2 10" Image Dynamics IDQ, 200ft of Second Skin deadener, Kicker wire	Personally IMO this is the best stuff on the market. I use it exclusively. www.secondskinaudio.com

11-01-2009, 09:28 AM	#10
Anathollo Is finally lifted! Name: Michael Joined: Feb 2009, #14071 Location: Houston Gender: Male Posts: 554 07 Tacoma TRD Sport 2007 Double Cab Automatic OME N140S, OME 885 Coils, OME N182 rear shocks, Toyo A/T's 285/70/17, Rear TSB AAL, Touchscreen JVC Headunit, Custom Rhino-lined sub box, Pioneer components and Rockford Fosgate 10" shallow sub, Pioneer and Alpine amps, 1250 watts total, Autometer Volt and Trans gauges with Lotek A-pillar, K&N CAI, Flowmaster 40, WO Seat covers, Tint, NST WP pulley, Hi-lift jack, TW sticker, Sockmonkey Front bumper cover, Diff breather mod, horn relocation mod, extra "D" rings, de-pinstriped, carrier bearing drop, Rear brake light mod, A lot more planned...	Checkout fatmat. It's the same thing as all of them. and cheap too! http://www.fatmat.com/ __________________ "You may all go to hell, And I will go to Texas"- Davy Crockett I have ten friends and a crowbar that says you ain't gonna do JACK!- UnderOATH FS: 800watt 4-channel amp! http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/buy...tml#post956329

11-01-2009, 01:15 PM	#11
atsaubrey Dealer/Sales Rep for Sundown Audio. Joined: Apr 2008, #6087 Location: california Posts: 302 blue 2007 double cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic Sundown Audio 100.4 and 1500D, Pioneer 880PRS, Zapco Refernece 6.5" comps, 2 10" Image Dynamics IDQ, 200ft of Second Skin deadener, Kicker wire	I would not say that "its the same as all of them". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehY72CmxyU Here is my experience with Second Skin compared to another product out there.

11-01-2009, 01:19 PM	#12
Gossamer Howard Roark Joined: Aug 2009, #21438 Location: West of Illinois and East of Nebraska Gender: Male Posts: 92	call rick and order BXTII. I spent $230 and did all four doors and the floor. It's great stuff.

11-01-2009, 03:57 PM	#13
95SLE Senior Member Name: Tom Joined: Aug 2009, #20718 Location: Maryland Gender: Male Posts: 427 09 RWD Access Cab 2009 Access Cab Manual 2.7L Custom XM Install, Window Tint, Intermittant Wiper Install, AVS Bug Deflector, Bed Mat, SS Ultra Lamps.	I received this e-mail from 2nd Skin this week. Use this code to take 15% off of our Luxury Liner Pro noise barrier LLP15FD Luxury Liner Pro is a mass loaded vinyl barrier that blocks the transmission of airborne noise. The foam side of this discounted batch has a slight texture that is not smooth, but will work just as well as the regular material. Please visit our site to take advantage of this offer www.secondskinaudio.com Thanks so much for your attention! ANT

11-03-2009, 05:28 AM	#15
Ocean's Member Joined: Oct 2009, #23920 Location: Bay area, CA Gender: Male Posts: 90	I was wondering now with the rains, if we get water on the floor with the sound deadening down there, can it get moldy and funky?

11-03-2009, 08:10 PM	#17
atsaubrey Dealer/Sales Rep for Sundown Audio. Joined: Apr 2008, #6087 Location: california Posts: 302 blue 2007 double cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic Sundown Audio 100.4 and 1500D, Pioneer 880PRS, Zapco Refernece 6.5" comps, 2 10" Image Dynamics IDQ, 200ft of Second Skin deadener, Kicker wire	no doubt Don has a good product, but to say it is better? I doubt i would go there. I truly believe either Second Skin or Don's (sound deadener showdown) is probably the best stuff out there. I will say you you not beat Second Skins customers service, Don...honestly dont know but would guess it is up to par.

11-03-2009, 09:29 PM	#19
Muy Grande Senior Member Name: John Joined: Feb 2009, #14111 Location: Dallas, TX Gender: Male Posts: 141 06 DC TRD 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Toytec Spacer lift, AVIC-D3, Image Dynamic Subs, 6.5 CDT Audio Speakers	eDead Checkout Elemental Designs.... 1. eDead 45, 80 or 120 -tickness (you can buy as much as you want). 2. eDead Teklite. I searched and read as much as possible and compared everything out there, in the end it was price. I did it my self and did all 4 doors and the rear seat wall. I spent around $80 for all the material both the eDead 80 and eDead Teklite. I am happy with my setup. AVIC-D3 CDT Audio 6.5 upfront 2 10" Image Dynamics behind the seats 2 Alpine Amps (450 & 800)

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