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Old 01-22-2010, 04:24 PM   #1
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need feed back on 2 choices Eclipse AVN726E or dnx 6140

Spent a lot of time reading all of the posts here, great info, love this site , thanks to all the admins who make this site available and dedicate their time to it, so im down to 2 choices, the eclipse AVN726E, or the Kenwood 6140, here in Canada, not that many places carry either cause who will stock such a expensive unit, we don't have the buying power of the US, that being said i live 15 km (9 miles for u americans lol) from the border so (i can get it there too). I know Tuhastsu ten is going OEM only, if i want one of these eclipses i have to move now or maybe wait for a clearout that may happen or not.

Couple questions:

eclipse says its live memory not dvd based, you can update with a sd card, will this always be true in the future?

I know that kenwood is garmin nav, having never used any nav system is that the best?

I just want i nice clean unit that will give me, blue tooth, nav and a backup camera, sound out of the system is ok, i dont need huge bass, but might want to do the speakers too ,


So here it is, all your opinions and feedback will be HUGEly apreciated, and for sure , I hope help others, thanks in advance
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I have the AVN276e. It has great features but i'm not happy with the Navigation part at all. You can't enter addresses for highways, county routes, State routes etc.( Rt 23, US 206, CR 517, highway 46 etc) This is a real problem where I live. I have had to use my cheap magellan that sticks on the windshield 95% of the time. Extremely frustrating. Eclipse acknowledged the problem but no fix. The audio, Bluetooth, Satellite radio, USB port all work great for me. Hope this helps.
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I can't comment.....yet. I have the Eclipse in the mail right now. Should have it in by Thursday.
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I have an EclipseAVN52D and I love it. Eclipse works flawlessly with Toyota, because Fujitsu-10 aka Eclipse here in the US is a subsidiary of Toyota.
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I have an EclipseAVN52D and I love it. Eclipse works flawlessly with Toyota, because Fujitsu-10 aka Eclipse here in the US is a subsidiary of Toyota.
So how exactly does this help it integrate with the truck? I'm happy to hear about it but I don't quite understand.
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So how exactly does this help it integrate with the truck? I'm happy to hear about it but I don't quite understand.
Because the shit is plug-n-play. Mine didnt need any harnesses. Plug and play sucka.
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I can't comment on the Eclipse (since I don't own one), but I will comment on Kenwood.

I have been a long time supporter of Kenwood and have owned nothing else for the last 20 years. Kenwood puts a lot of great features into their head units and have (in my opinion) the best navigation (Garmin) and bluetooth (parrot) manufactures built into their products. I have always been extremely happy with their products; however, after the problems I'm having with my DNX9140 Kenwood is about to lose a long time supporter.

The biggest problem I have is with changing tracks on my iPod. It takes about 5-10 seconds for you to change from one track to the next. The problem is that the album art from the iPod is displayed on the HU and has to load every time you change a track... this loading time take about 5-10 seconds... in other words you can not quickly change through songs on your iPod.

I contacted Kenwood directly via telephone and the tech support guy was completely clueless and offered no help. I also sent an email to their product support group to see when they were going to fix the problem. This was their response:

"The IPOD album art is working as intended. The album art area is setup with a higher resolution than the DNX8120. Track options cannot function until the album art finish loading loads."

They mention the DNX8120 since I have that unit in my wifes car and it works without any problems. So.... Kenwood is telling me that they "intended" to have a 5-10 second delay when switching tracks during which time the track functions don't work.

This is complete CRAP and Kenwood just lost a long time customer. I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming the DNX6140 works the same way since it is from the same product line year.

I'm looking at the AVN726E and Pioneer, but haven't decided yet which is the better route to go. My biggest hangup is the navigation... it's hard to move away from Garmin.
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I have a 726e and the only issue I had was a turn on and off pop...not sure if anyone else had that problem. I swapped out my old Alpine IVA-D900 and AudioControl EPIC Four.1 for the 726e since the Alpine was single din and the EQ was on the bottom of that. When I got the 726e...its a double din and I had no where to mount the EQ...so I was having that problem with the on/off pop on the woofer. All the wiring was the same and at one point redone and still have the problem. We finally cut the center AC vents, installed the EQ and no more problem.

BTW: Eclipse is closing their doors to aftermarket audio in focus on factory stuff. It doesn't mean that the Eclipse doesn't honor their warranty. They do because Fujitsu Ten is still open.
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I ordere the Eclipse today.
Will be installing it with front components and a sub / amp this week.

Lots of research tells me that kenwoods garmin is best in the industry right now, but eclipse with 3d maps beats everybody else.
Built in Bluetooth and inexpensive iPod cable, along with good audio output for a good price has sold me on the eclipse.
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I ordere the Eclipse today.
Will be installing it with front components and a sub / amp this week.

Lots of research tells me that kenwoods garmin is best in the industry right now, but eclipse with 3d maps beats everybody else.
Built in Bluetooth and inexpensive iPod cable, along with good audio output for a good price has sold me on the eclipse.
Don't need a iPod cable unless you want video...I just use the iPod USB cable that comes with the iPod.
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That's true!
I only bought the iPod cable so I can use my iPhone for music, video, and Bluetooth.

One other down side to the eclipse is that I've read (not totally sure) that no album art is on screen.
I can live with that because the pioneer unit in my wires truck has album art but it's blurry as crap!
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That's true!
I only bought the iPod cable so I can use my iPhone for music, video, and Bluetooth.

One other down side to the eclipse is that I've read (not totally sure) that no album art is on screen.
I can live with that because the pioneer unit in my wires truck has album art but it's blurry as crap!
No album art at least with just the USB cable so yeah no art.
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I almost bout the eclipse 726 but decided to go with the pioneer avicz110bt. awesome unit, everything is flawless.

but what someone said about eclipse being plug and play, it is no longer like that. the older units would plug right up but the new ones you have to buy a harness
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I almost bout the eclipse 726 but decided to go with the pioneer avicz110bt. awesome unit, everything is flawless.

but what someone said about eclipse being plug and play, it is no longer like that. the older units would plug right up but the new ones you have to buy a harness
Yes you need a harness.
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I just installed the avn726e a few days back and this is what I can say. It's not plug and play, it will need a wire harness adapter. Do not buy the steering wheel adapter it's not needed and a waste of 80 bucks, you can tap in to your wiring. I wonder if there is a way to tap into the stock rear camera, I haven't figured that out yet.

A few issues I have with the unit. The sound quality is awesome however it doesn't have much adjustability, which may be good for some. I've always depended on a good/adjustable built in eq.

The screen is tilted up and can not be tilted down, only further up, but the picture is great.

It has frozen 2-3 times in 6 hours or so of use.

You have to pick your region and press the agree to terms button upon every start up, wtf!!!

It doesn't show dvd menus, or they don't work right so far for the ones I have tried so it makes watching dvd take longer than necessary.

I do like the fit and finish of the unit, and most of the controls. Kinda wish it had a small harddrive, lol.
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Can you elaborate on tapping into the stock wiring for the steering wheel controls? I want to keep mine as well.
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there is an extra wire harness that will not be plugged into anything, this is where the steering wheel controls are, someone did a write up somewhere, do a search and you should be able to find it, I don't have a link. I know the wires were pin 5 and 6 and then one wires is grounded but without pulling it all apart I couldn't tell you the colors.
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I just installed the avn726e a few days back and this is what I can say. It's not plug and play, it will need a wire harness adapter. Do not buy the steering wheel adapter it's not needed and a waste of 80 bucks, you can tap in to your wiring. I wonder if there is a way to tap into the stock rear camera, I haven't figured that out yet. Stock camera might not work. I didn't buy the Eclipse camera since I had no where in mounting the camera so I kept my BOYO VTL-300 and it is wired just into the VTR input so I have to turn it on manually.

A few issues I have with the unit. The sound quality is awesome however it doesn't have much adjustability, which may be good for some. I've always depended on a good/adjustable built in eq. The HU could use more adjustments as far as for tweaking the SQ but again I have a AudioControl EPIC Four.1 for that job and I leave the HU default.

The screen is tilted up and can not be tilted down, only further up, but the picture is great. No tilting down, just up.

It has frozen 2-3 times in 6 hours or so of use. The only time my froze is when I use the iPod and adjusting the volume. But since I installed my EQ and use that as the primary volume and just leave the Eclipse at 80...it hasn't happened.

You have to pick your region and press the agree to terms button upon every start up, wtf!!! Yes that is Navigation for you. Its the Caution screen and it is displayed automatically. I usually keep mine on Sirius and rarely use my Navi so it doesn't bother me.

It doesn't show dvd menus, or they don't work right so far for the ones I have tried so it makes watching dvd take longer than necessary. DVD menu is kinda tricky...from inserting disc into the deck and it playing...you hit the NEXT button then the arrow w/ up/down/left/right...it gets you to the ENTER button and ARROW up and down to go through the menu.

I do like the fit and finish of the unit, and most of the controls. Kinda wish it had a small harddrive, lol.
I think I answered them all.
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the only thing i am not liking about my pioneer right now (which can probably be fixed some way) is that i can not get it to play my podcasts off the ipod, They are not in the podcast tab and when i put them in a playlist all the regular music will show up but not the podcasts???
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