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Old 01-29-2010, 10:56 PM   #1
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Polk Audio Sound Help

Hey have a problem with my polk audio MM speakers.. I just installed them yesterday at a little shop here in town owned by one guy that does everything himself and when i turned them on I expected to be blown away because they cost about 300$ for both pairs and tweeters with crossovers and they sounded kinda weak and rattled. Stock speakers sounded just as good without the rattle. and when i asked hoping that they were installed wrong and that was the problem he said that it was because i need a amp(at least 300watt 4channel) to help power them because their going "power hungry". All I have is a pioneer avh-3100 touchscreen giving out 20x4 watts RMS(at best) and both the front 6x9 and back 6x5 Polk Audio MM speakers are rated at 125 RMS. I didnt use any tacotunes or any speaker adapters other than the ones that the speakers came with. I was wondering if the amp idea is right because i dont wanna spend another $200 if its not needed, or do i buy baffles from mr.marv or tacotunes or do i dynamat the 4 doors.. Help needed

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Old 01-30-2010, 07:50 AM   #2
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Sorry but he is telling you the truth about the amp, I have never installed aftermarket speakers and them sound louder or better UNTIL i put a amp on them, thats when they shine. as far as the doors go i bet he just screwed you new speakers to the door what he needed to do or you can do yourself is cut some speaker rings out of 3/4 mdf. Dynamat is always a good idea even if you still have factory speakers.
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Amp. I was experiencing the same problem with my sub. Rattling sometimes and whatnot. I thought and was hoping it was a loose connection or a bad wire. But after checking everything, it was the actual amp that was going bad. And it died earlier this week. R.I.P. Amp. Luckily, I have a second one that run the speakers solely, so at least I still have sound coming through.
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Thanks for the help so far.. So i should get speaker baffles because i do think that he did just screw the speakers to the door. I already set up the appointment for the dynamat for the 4 doors this tuesday.
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:44 PM   #5
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the factory holes are too big for the aftermarket speakers to fit properly so i would at least do speaker rings.
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you spend $300 on speakers and didnt realize that you needed an amp...!! of course you need an amp to drive those speakers!! maybe you should do a little more research and understand what your getting into before you go and blow $300 on speakers and expect them to sound great w/ only 20w!!
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Ha what do i needa do research for when i have the experts here on this fourm.. lol looks like its time to search for a amp
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I don't want to start something here but I installed front and rear Polk MM 6.75 component speakers in my 2006 access cab. I drive them just with the head unit Pioneer D3, and it sounds great. Much better then the stock. I also bought a Premier 4 channel amp which I was going to install later. But in my opinion I did not have the sound problems you mentioned. Before you add an amp be sure to check if the polarity is correct. I used an MDF baffle and also plan on installing some RamMat.
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Always power your components with an external amp. The HU amp is terrible...it may run cheap coax or stock paper cones but not components to the fullest.
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I don't want to start something here but I installed front and rear Polk MM 6.75 component speakers in my 2006 access cab. I drive them just with the head unit Pioneer D3, and it sounds great. Much better then the stock. I also bought a Premier 4 channel amp which I was going to install later. But in my opinion I did not have the sound problems you mentioned. Before you add an amp be sure to check if the polarity is correct. I used an MDF baffle and also plan on installing some RamMat.
Glad to hear man, and i think my problem is the baffles because I messed with the eq setting on my HU and it sounds better but theirs still that pretty loud rattle and im starting to confuse it with blown speakers even though i know that cant be. Im currently in the process of buying baffles from my speakers and tweeters from mr.marv. And then dynamat after i buy the amp
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Im surprised the guy installing your speakers didn't give you a heads up about needing an amp...most car audio places will at least let you know that your speakers will require one before they sell them to you and especially before they put them in. But an amp will help with the volume. Check into the rattling. Tacotunes sells great stuff
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Your problem is the fact he didn't use the correct baffles to mount the speakers. That is the source of the rattle you hear. I bet you have almost no audible bass response either do you?

Get some proper baffles on there, then listen to it. It will be a world of difference.

If after that you find yourself cranking the volume up over 80% of the radio's max volume and craving more, then do an amp. But if you are happy with the volume at half to 75% of max, then no need for an amp.
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It will always sound better with an amp, however this does not mean a good HU won't sound good to you. Some people just don't crank the music up high enough to merit the money. As I stated I was sure my components would not sound good without the amp, but during a week when I just installed the speakers I was very surprised how good it sounded minus the amp. Just my 2 cents
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Amp is a very good idea and a very good thing to have...
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Thanks everybody for the responds so far.. I just sent my payment to mr.marv for the baffles and am excited to see the difference they make, also this friday i will be buying a 1600w 4 channel power acoustik amplifier and installing it with the baffles next week..

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I bet you have almost no audible bass response either do you?
And no i have very little bass response, and the little i do have is overpowered with the rattle
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Ook so Im having another audio problem.. A small one but a annoying one. So heres the story. Im installing dynmat myself in my four doors and everything seemed well, the rattle i was talking about was gone and the system was sounding GREAT but when it was time to but the door panel back on it wouldnt line up correctly on the two opposite sides, the bottom and top line up perfect but the two sides have spaces as well as the door knob. The white clips that plug in the door from the panel go in fine on the bottom but on the sides they dont go in, I have to force them but they pop back out. I was wondering if i put to much dynamat or did i cover up a hole that wasnt supposed to be covered up. The door closes but the spaces between the panel and the door look ugly. Heres some pics for you do-it-yourselfers so you can see what i messed up. Not shown in the pic i have the baffle for the tweeters.
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Sounds like you might have a bulge somewhere in the door. Does your crossover or speaker stick out too much?
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Im pretty sure my crossover doesnt touch, ive measured it and i still have about half a inch of room between the crossover and the door panel and as for the speaker I knew it was gonna stick out especially after adding the 1 inch thick speaker baffle but I shaved off a good inch and a half off the door panel as you can see in the picture of the door panel. Plus the bottom fits perfectly its the top left and right corner of the panel thats giving me problems. I already tried putting the panel on with out the tweeter baffle(becasue the baffle adds about a 3/4in) but i get the same problem on both sides so its not the crossover, speaker or tweeter but I know it is a bulge somewhere. Im thinking that it is the door knob cuz i put dynamat under it and now i have to force it to snap back into place but im still looking for the bulge elsewhere.
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From what you just said about the top left and right corners I don't think you have the top of the door card seated along the top metal ridge of the door. Basically, you should start high up and slide it down onto the metal ridge and it will hook on. Then, once it hooks you just push all the white poppy things in.
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I have the exact set up as you except with an Alpine HU and Kicker amp. I have the Polk MM 6x9s in the front with a Polk tweeter up top, Mr. Marv adapters and Dynamat on the doors. I do not have any clearance issues at all. The difference in our installs is that my crossovers are mounted on the back wall of the cab.
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