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Bowfisher1 04-02-2013 12:38 PM

Sub questions
 
Does anybody know what it means when a sub pre loads?

Aw9d 04-02-2013 03:27 PM

Typically if you are buying a box a lot of people offer 'pre-loaded' boxes which means the sub comes already mounted and typically tested to ensure it works.

Other than that I've never heard of pre-loading a sub.

Bowfisher1 04-02-2013 04:30 PM

I called Mr. Marv and asked him. He said when a sub pre loads the air from the sub hits a parallel surface and bounces back to the sub to fast causing it to distort and "sound like crap". Thank you for your reply.

dtopgun515 04-03-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowfisher1 (Post 6683813)
I called Mr. Marv and asked him. He said when a sub pre loads the air from the sub hits a parallel surface and bounces back to the sub to fast causing it to distort and "sound like crap". Thank you for your reply.

So how do you prevent it? get a bigger or deeper box, shallower sub?

Geosh 04-03-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dtopgun515 (Post 6686956)
So how do you prevent it? get a bigger or deeper box, shallower sub?

Polyfill. It will slow down the air travel inside the box and help prevent this.

Bowfisher1 04-03-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Geosh (Post 6688114)
Polyfill. It will slow down the air travel inside the box and help prevent this.

I did not know this. Have you tried it?

He said that there is a thing called loading which is a good thing. Pre loading can be prevented by giving more space between the sub and the parralell surface(the bottom of the seat) an you can do this by getting a seat lift and I think that makes the back of the seat not function.

Bowfisher1 04-03-2013 06:58 PM

We were talking about puting two 8's under the backseat of my 2007 Tacoma. Has anybody tried this? Do you really think if I filled te box with polyfill it would help?

ItalynStylion 04-03-2013 09:02 PM

I've done it in my Tacoma. Tell Marv that ItalynStylion gives you the green light to go for it. It sounds great in my truck and I'm picky as all hell.

It would be better to not have the rear seat metal right in front of the cone but it's enough clearance to be fine. Plus, the seat isn't really parallel and it's not flat so I wouldn't worry too much. I can speak from experience here.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...o/000_0017.jpg

Bowfisher1 04-04-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ItalynStylion (Post 6691231)
I've done it in my Tacoma. Tell Marv that ItalynStylion gives you the green light to go for it. It sounds great in my truck and I'm picky as all hell.

It would be better to not have the rear seat metal right in front of the cone but it's enough clearance to be fine. Plus, the seat isn't really parallel and it's not flat so I wouldn't worry too much. I can speak from experience here.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...o/000_0017.jpg

What year is your Tacoma? And what kind of subs do you have? Oh and how much air space it there per chamber?

ItalynStylion 04-04-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowfisher1 (Post 6692376)
What year is your Tacoma? And what kind of subs do you have? Oh and how much air space it there per chamber?

I'm in a 2009. They're Elemental Designs e3.8 subwoofers. The airpsace is about 1 cubic foot and it's a single common chamber.

Bowfisher1 04-04-2013 04:27 PM

How do you think a ported box would sound? I'm am looking at getting two sundown SD-2 series 8's the require .25 cubic feet in a sealed box ( for 1 sub) and .5 in a ported box ( 1 sub). http://www.sundownaudio.com/index.ph...sd-series.html

ItalynStylion 04-04-2013 05:36 PM

Just check to make sure you have enough depth so the subs fit physically and you should be fine. Those Sundown subs move a lot of air so you'll likely need a 3" port per sub which is tricky but not impossible. I did it before so I know with effort it can work. It will likely be easier in your case since you will only have one motor structure to miss with the ports.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...Porting005.jpg

Bowfisher1 04-04-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ItalynStylion (Post 6695688)
Just check to make sure you have enough depth so the subs fit physically and you should be fine. Those Sundown subs move a lot of air so you'll likely need a 3" port per sub which is tricky but not impossible. I did it before so I know with effort it can work. It will likely be easier in your case since you will only have one motor structure to miss with the ports.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...Porting005.jpg


How much depth is there? And since I am fairly new to car audio please explain what your an by one motor structure and why it will be easier for me?



What is the set up in that pic?

ItalynStylion 04-04-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowfisher1 (Post 6695742)
How much depth is there? And since I am fairly new to car audio please explain what your an by one motor structure and why it will be easier for me?



What is the set up in that pic?

The motor structure is the magnet on the back of a speaker. It makes the cone move. In my last picture I had two speakers per side (the side is divided by the hump in the middle where the driveshaft goes). So it was tricky to get the 3" pipe tube in there without hitting the magnets of two speakers.

In your case, if you're using 1 sub per side you'll have more room so it will probably be easier. And I can't remember how much depth there is. I think someone tried Alpine Type R's down there (8" version) and those are 4.5" deep so there should be at least that down there. You should be fine.

Bowfisher1 04-05-2013 05:51 AM

Thank you I think I am going with a sealed box because if I do end up getting these it will be because I feel there is a lack of bass from the two tens I am puting behind the seat. And the box for the tens will be sealed so I'm afraid it will make them sound way to different if one box is ported and one is sealed.

ItalynStylion 04-05-2013 08:10 AM

Wait......say that again? You're planning on running 10's behind the seat AND 8's under the seat because you're afraid the 10's won't be loud enough?

Bowfisher1 04-05-2013 08:22 AM

I said I will be puting in the 8's if and only if I think the 10's aren't loud enough. I am Getting the two 10's no matter what.

Bowfisher1 04-05-2013 08:26 AM

But I'm sure it will be plenty load enough.

ItalynStylion 04-05-2013 10:21 AM

Yes. If they 10's aren't loud enough you either did it wrong or you can't hear.

Bowfisher1 04-05-2013 04:28 PM

That's what I was figuring.


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