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Old 07-03-2014, 05:58 AM   #4381
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:33 AM   #4382
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saw this about changing social program to guaranteed income of 20,000 per adult in canada as a method to eliminate poverty.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/ca...activists.html
of course the tax burden seems outrageous, but then I thought, "what if this would replace Unemployment insurance, Education loans, and Social Welfare programs?" How much does that infrastructure to support just those two elements cost us, and if they could be eliminated, would the tax savings potentially pay for a large portion of the guaranteed income process and make Government smaller? There would be a ton of folks no longer working for the govt, instead out there in the workforce creating wealth for themselves.
So if you have a, let's say 40hr, 40k job, at 30% tax, this implementation means you are now working 40hrs for 10k a year.

Oversimplified, but that's my issue with it.
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Old 07-05-2014, 10:56 AM   #4383
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Move to the States if you want to get rid of social programs
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:57 PM   #4384
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Move to the States if you want to get rid of social programs
Not sure that'd help, as we seem to be headed in that direction. Not saying that's a bad thing. Just our current half-assed approach will not work; trying to appease private insurance companies while socializing medical care/coverage is ... well ... half-assed BS.

Sorry, just felt like commenting. Carry-on, back to me popcorn

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Old 07-05-2014, 02:01 PM   #4385
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Not sure that'd help, as we seem to be headed in that direction. Not saying that's a bad thing. Just our current half-assed approach will not work; trying to appease private insurance companies while socializing medical care/coverage is ... well ... half-assed BS.



Sorry, just felt like commenting. Carry-on, back to me popcorn




Nobody is talking about getting rid of socialized healthcare up here
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Old 07-05-2014, 02:32 PM   #4386
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Nobody is talking about getting rid of socialized healthcare up here
i get that. The discussion is the concept of a gov't guaranteed minimum income to replace welfare programs. A concept which I think might have merit if it could be cleanly implemented ... Not sure that's possible on either side of our border, politics being what they are.

My comment was more to the point of moving to the states to "get rid of social programs" would not change a lot in that regard. Further, I believe the US is moving towards socialized medicine and with it more, or enhancements to existing, social programs ... IMO we should. The medical coverage I had on active duty, and continue under as an AD retiree, is pretty much socialized on a smaller scale. The problem with our Affordable Care Act or "ObamaCare" is it kept private insurance companies in the middle. IMHO there isn't any room for capitalism in socialized medicine; hence I consider it a half-assed approach to a serious situation needing remedy.

Sorry if I'm offending anyone or mucking up your thread.
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Old 07-05-2014, 02:39 PM   #4388
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Old 07-05-2014, 03:39 PM   #4389
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interesting that social healthcare (at least in Canada) started as an initiative of Nuns, providing healthcare to new settlements.

My comment related to the concept of guaranteed income, is that the concept could replace Social welfare, Unemployment Insurance, and Education loans, Definitely not meant to replace healthcare. The concept is it puts responsibility and decision making back on the individual = more freedom, and much less govt. infrastructure, potentially increasing the labour force contributing to the country's GDP. Of course, if you choose to make bad choices with your base level income, too effin bad. Darwin will make its selections. Not sure if the proponents of the concept are thinking that forward.
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this thing's smaller than a single yen



id lose the shit out of thsese

It looks to be dime sized , maybe smaller than our current nickel which is pretty much exactly the same size as a current US nickel
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:04 AM   #4395
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It looks to be dime sized , maybe smaller than our current nickel which is pretty much exactly the same size as a current US nickel
I mean, I've seen lots of your guys coins, but never one this old.

shit for size


vs a us dime


nope, i'd definitely lose these. lol
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