best wax for black

TACOMATruckin98 · 10-22-2006, 09:22 PM

well, didnt know where to put this, but, im looking for some good wax for black vehicles...something that will make it look REALLY good...and not TOO expensive, any help?

06TRDsport · 10-23-2006, 07:21 PM

I would recommend Meguires gold class. Fairly cheap and provides a nice reflective shine.

Jeff · 11-21-2006, 03:04 PM

Meguires gold is very good. Most waxes have some percentage of carnuba wax in them. the more carnuba the better and the most expensive.
Black is always a tough and your hearing this from a painter with 30yrs exp.Your best bet is to start with a sparkling clean and dry truck and do a fender and door at a time. Two good coats are better than one heavy coat.
Good wax should last more than one or two car washs. jeff

Banshee · 11-21-2006, 07:59 PM

I use Mothers Claybar system on my rig and it makes it look good. I've heard some really good things about Zaino. And the proper way to wash and wax a vehicle.

MapMasterG · 11-21-2006, 11:45 PM

while we're on the wax subject...
I have a friend who swears by waxing the windows on her car when she waxes the rest...she says it's like rain-X, I've never tried, but I wonder what TW folks think of this. Also, for you experienced detailers... what is the best way to deal with waxing around emblems and plastic trim...I see so many vehicles with wax build-up inside the chrome emblems.

Thanks.

Jeff · 11-22-2006, 07:56 AM

MapMaster, you can tape off the plastic door handles and trim, if you want to take the time. Your are correct that wax does get on these places. You can buy a product that will clean plastic door handles etc.
You can also buy a book on how to detail your car, which will give you lots of ideas and help. Good luck.

flatboy · 11-22-2006, 01:16 PM

Some of the best polishes I've used have been bought at a Harley Davidson mortorcycle shop. It was a SP product. def not cheap though.

Ldytaco05 · 11-22-2006, 03:44 PM

Well that's good to know about the type of wax is best for black color trucks. i will definitely try it.
ldytaco05

b10751 · 11-22-2006, 04:54 PM

I detail vehicles on the side to make a few extra bucks. I would suggest going to autopia.org and browse around. You will learn a great deal on how to properly care for the finish of a vehicle. There are many different types of sealants and waxes available. Some, such as Poorboys products, do not stain trim. Poorboys has a carnuba wax, called Natty's Blue, that looks awesome on black and other dark colored vehicles. But whatever you use, the key is in the prep. Properly washing and drying your paint will reduce the chance of creating swirls or marring. Use a clay bar (Mothers has a pretty good kit you can get at advance auto) to remove contaminents from the paint at least once a year. Once the surface has been clayed, I suggest using a mild polish, preferably applying with a dual-action polisher. Follow that up with a good wax or sealant applied by hand, then stand back and enjoy the shine!

Jeff · 11-23-2006, 07:19 AM

b10751, great advice and I will check out that Poorboys wax, is that a regional company. Thanks for the website too. jeff

b10751 · 11-23-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

b10751, great advice and I will check out that Poorboys wax, is that a regional company. Thanks for the website too. jeff

Hey Jeff,
You can order their products directly from them at http://www.poorboysworld.com/

Jeff · 11-24-2006, 02:04 AM

b10751, thanks for the site, I will do some ordering and try some paste wax and will look at the site later on today.

From one old detailer to another, todays paints are so much better than 15-20 yrs ago, easier to maintain and much much harder. For the most part less likely to flake and fall off due to poor adhesion of the primers. jeff

sunruner19 · 01-12-2007, 06:34 AM

A little trick here as far as getting wax off black plastic or bumper covers. Get a jar of peanut butter, anyone is good as long as its not crunchy style. This removes all wax off the trim.
I work in a detail shop and its quite effective.

TACOMATruckin98 · 01-12-2007, 09:43 AM

yeah, ive done that before, i wish it was more permanent. what is the most permanent way to restore the color to trim pieces, aka the bumper valance?

2003greenbean · 01-12-2007, 07:09 PM

peanut butter never heard of that have to try it - i do wax all of my windows when i wax my truck

dudleyh · 01-14-2007, 09:24 PM

Without a doubt the best for Black is Zaino Brothers. (http://www.zainostore.com/) The stuff is great, goes on easy and last much longer than standard wax. Muluiple coats is easy. I can't say enough about it and it is great on red also.

007Tacoma · 01-15-2007, 04:45 AM

Anyone want to tell me the proper way to clean and wax a new truck. When I do it, I always leave spots or it just doesn't look as good as it should...

sunruner19 · 01-15-2007, 05:56 AM

what are you using right now?
i believe everyone has their fav wax, some find others that work just as great as what you are using and swear by it. I think most people will agree with me on the following simple things to do before you start a wax job
1. preparation of the truck before waxing
2. Never wax in direct sun.
3. let the truck cool off in the shade before waxing.
4. start off with a very clean DRY truck.
5. several light coats of wax are better than one heavy coat (harder to remove when it dries)
6. clay bars will remove surface contaminates (tree sap) safely when used properly

How many people really know the difference between wax and polish?
Which waxes contain abrasives and which are safe to use?
what do you use to apply the wax and remove it without scratching?

007Tacoma · 01-15-2007, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunruner19

what are you using right now?
i believe everyone has their fav wax, some find others that work just as great as what you are using and swear by it. I think most people will agree with me on the following simple things to do before you start a wax job
1. preparation of the truck before waxing
2. Never wax in direct sun.
3. let the truck cool off in the shade before waxing.
4. start off with a very clean DRY truck.
5. several light coats of wax are better than one heavy coat (harder to remove when it dries)
6. clay bars will remove surface contaminates (tree sap) safely when used properly

How many people really know the difference between wax and polish?
Which waxes contain abrasives and which are safe to use?
what do you use to apply the wax and remove it without scratching?

Right now, I am using a detail shop that is on my way home. They do an excellent job, but I am spending about $60 a month to pay some one else to do what I should be doing.

I don't know the difference in Polish and Wax. My guess is that Polish has a mild abbrasive in it to remove oxidized paint and other grime. Wax should be non-abbrasive and provide protection against such abbrasives. Again - that is just my guess.

CharlieX · 01-26-2007, 03:24 PM

Try searching around these forums:
http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/detailing/

bunch of guys with mostly black BMW's - they really get into keeping their cars ultra clean. They all seem big proponents of Zanio.

10-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#1
TACOMATruckin98 Carolina Alliance Joined: Sep 2006, #22 Location: South Carolina Age: 20 Posts: 60	best wax for black well, didnt know where to put this, but, im looking for some good wax for black vehicles...something that will make it look REALLY good...and not TOO expensive, any help?

10-23-2006, 07:21 PM	#2
06TRDsport Member Joined: Sep 2006, #30 Location: Bend, OR Age: 24 Gender: Male Posts: 82 06 Access Cab 4.0L auto 2006 Access Cab Automatic	I would recommend Meguires gold class. Fairly cheap and provides a nice reflective shine. __________________ 2006 TRD Sport access cab 2.5" Toytec spacer lift with AAL 285/60/18 TerraGrapplers 18x9 Helo Maxx6

11-21-2006, 07:59 PM	#4
Banshee The one you are not! Joined: Sep 2006, #7 Location: Seattle'ish, WA Age: 31 Gender: Dude Posts: 963 2008 FJ Cruiser. Sandstorm/White Off Automatic 1GR-FE Maint:Scangauge II. Comms: Cobra 75WXST, Bandi mount, Firestik 3footer. Cargo: Custom storage box for rear cargo area. ARB CKMA12 High Output air compressor (OBA). ARB Winchbar. Warn M8000 Wench	I use Mothers Claybar system on my rig and it makes it look good. I've heard some really good things about Zaino. And the proper way to wash and wax a vehicle. __________________ http://www.treadlightly.org/

11-21-2006, 11:45 PM	#5
MapMasterG Member Joined: Nov 2006, #220 Location: Maui Age: 42 Posts: 43	more wax questions while we're on the wax subject... I have a friend who swears by waxing the windows on her car when she waxes the rest...she says it's like rain-X, I've never tried, but I wonder what TW folks think of this. Also, for you experienced detailers... what is the best way to deal with waxing around emblems and plastic trim...I see so many vehicles with wax build-up inside the chrome emblems. Thanks. __________________ Greg *"MapMasterG"*2006 Tacoma Double Cab 4WD 4 wheelin' in Maui Pineapple fields everyday!!

11-22-2006, 03:44 PM	#8
Ldytaco05 it's all about me Joined: Sep 2006, #46 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,176	Well that's good to know about the type of wax is best for black color trucks. i will definitely try it. ldytaco05 __________________ Ldytaco05

11-21-2006, 03:04 PM	#3
Jeff Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006, #59 Location: Hopkinton,MA Posts: 384 Nice 6spd,V6, very solid truck Access Cab Manual V6 of course ! None currently, but I would like a better sounding exhaust and perhaps a cold air pack and some color coded step bars	Meguires gold is very good. Most waxes have some percentage of carnuba wax in them. the more carnuba the better and the most expensive. Black is always a tough and your hearing this from a painter with 30yrs exp.Your best bet is to start with a sparkling clean and dry truck and do a fender and door at a time. Two good coats are better than one heavy coat. Good wax should last more than one or two car washs. jeff

11-22-2006, 07:56 AM	#6
Jeff Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006, #59 Location: Hopkinton,MA Posts: 384 Nice 6spd,V6, very solid truck Access Cab Manual V6 of course ! None currently, but I would like a better sounding exhaust and perhaps a cold air pack and some color coded step bars	MapMaster, you can tape off the plastic door handles and trim, if you want to take the time. Your are correct that wax does get on these places. You can buy a product that will clean plastic door handles etc. You can also buy a book on how to detail your car, which will give you lots of ideas and help. Good luck.

11-22-2006, 01:16 PM	#7
flatboy Junior Member Joined: Sep 2006, #37 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 19	Some of the best polishes I've used have been bought at a Harley Davidson mortorcycle shop. It was a SP product. def not cheap though.

11-22-2006, 04:54 PM	#9
b10751 Junior Member Joined: Oct 2006, #92 Location: Alabama Posts: 9	I detail vehicles on the side to make a few extra bucks. I would suggest going to autopia.org and browse around. You will learn a great deal on how to properly care for the finish of a vehicle. There are many different types of sealants and waxes available. Some, such as Poorboys products, do not stain trim. Poorboys has a carnuba wax, called Natty's Blue, that looks awesome on black and other dark colored vehicles. But whatever you use, the key is in the prep. Properly washing and drying your paint will reduce the chance of creating swirls or marring. Use a clay bar (Mothers has a pretty good kit you can get at advance auto) to remove contaminents from the paint at least once a year. Once the surface has been clayed, I suggest using a mild polish, preferably applying with a dual-action polisher. Follow that up with a good wax or sealant applied by hand, then stand back and enjoy the shine!

11-23-2006, 07:19 AM	#10
Jeff Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006, #59 Location: Hopkinton,MA Posts: 384 Nice 6spd,V6, very solid truck Access Cab Manual V6 of course ! None currently, but I would like a better sounding exhaust and perhaps a cold air pack and some color coded step bars	b10751, great advice and I will check out that Poorboys wax, is that a regional company. Thanks for the website too. jeff

11-24-2006, 02:04 AM	#12
Jeff Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006, #59 Location: Hopkinton,MA Posts: 384 Nice 6spd,V6, very solid truck Access Cab Manual V6 of course ! None currently, but I would like a better sounding exhaust and perhaps a cold air pack and some color coded step bars	b10751, thanks for the site, I will do some ordering and try some paste wax and will look at the site later on today. From one old detailer to another, todays paints are so much better than 15-20 yrs ago, easier to maintain and much much harder. For the most part less likely to flake and fall off due to poor adhesion of the primers. jeff

01-12-2007, 06:34 AM	#13
sunruner19 Senior Roving Member Joined: Dec 2006, #546 Location: Great Sacandaga Lake region Northville NY, South Yarmouth, Cape Cod Ma. Age: 62 Gender: Male Posts: 218 09 Tacoma 4WD 2009 Regular Cab Manual 2.7L 09 TACOMA 2..7L STD WHITE 4X4 A.R.E. LID, redline hood struts and tailgate gas strut, tube steps, avic z2 navigation 08 TUNDRA 5.7L dbl cab 4wd SR 5 SC 505HP 08 PRIUS 93 Vette 40th anniv conv 09 Dodge Challenger 5.7 hemi 6 speed	A little trick here as far as getting wax off black plastic or bumper covers. Get a jar of peanut butter, anyone is good as long as its not crunchy style. This removes all wax off the trim. I work in a detail shop and its quite effective.

01-12-2007, 09:43 AM	#14
TACOMATruckin98 Carolina Alliance Joined: Sep 2006, #22 Location: South Carolina Age: 20 Posts: 60	yeah, ive done that before, i wish it was more permanent. what is the most permanent way to restore the color to trim pieces, aka the bumper valance?

01-12-2007, 07:09 PM	#15
2003greenbean Carolina Alliance Costal Div Joined: Jan 2007, #672 Location: socaste,sc Age: 26 Posts: 916 03 trd 2003 Access Cab Manual 3.4 cold air intake, step bars, custom grill, 3in lift,12 in audiobahn sub, 285/75/16 procomp tires, 20% tint,	peanut butter never heard of that have to try it - i do wax all of my windows when i wax my truck __________________

01-14-2007, 09:24 PM	#16
dudleyh Junior Member Joined: Dec 2006, #552 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6	Without a doubt the best for Black is Zaino Brothers. (http://www.zainostore.com/) The stuff is great, goes on easy and last much longer than standard wax. Muluiple coats is easy. I can't say enough about it and it is great on red also.

01-15-2007, 04:45 AM	#17
007Tacoma Moderator; TW Moderator Joined: Jan 2007, #643 Location: San Antonio, Texas Age: 27 Gender: Guy Posts: 5,622 08 PreRunner SR5 DoubleCab LongBed BSP 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L TacomaWorld.com Sticker, URD True Cold Air Intake, Debadged, Blackened Headlight Mod, 30% Window Tint, Access LE Tonneau, Bed Mat, OEM Daytime Running Lights + On/Off Switch, Fogs-On-Anytime Mod, Alternating Turn-Signal Mod, Canvas Seat Covers, Pioneer Stereo, iPod Connection, PAC steering wheel remote, Homemade Bike Rack (4 bikes), Firestone Destination ATs 265/75R16, TRD Suspension Upgrade	Anyone want to tell me the proper way to clean and wax a new truck. When I do it, I always leave spots or it just doesn't look as good as it should... __________________ If you have a question, ask... Don't spread rumors without knowing the facts. My responsibility on this forum is to the members and the integrity of this forum.

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sunruner19 Senior Roving Member Joined: Dec 2006, #546 Location: Great Sacandaga Lake region Northville NY, South Yarmouth, Cape Cod Ma. Age: 62 Gender: Male Posts: 218 09 Tacoma 4WD 2009 Regular Cab Manual 2.7L 09 TACOMA 2..7L STD WHITE 4X4 A.R.E. LID, redline hood struts and tailgate gas strut, tube steps, avic z2 navigation 08 TUNDRA 5.7L dbl cab 4wd SR 5 SC 505HP 08 PRIUS 93 Vette 40th anniv conv 09 Dodge Challenger 5.7 hemi 6 speed	what are you using right now? i believe everyone has their fav wax, some find others that work just as great as what you are using and swear by it. I think most people will agree with me on the following simple things to do before you start a wax job 1. preparation of the truck before waxing 2. Never wax in direct sun. 3. let the truck cool off in the shade before waxing. 4. start off with a very clean DRY truck. 5. several light coats of wax are better than one heavy coat (harder to remove when it dries) 6. clay bars will remove surface contaminates (tree sap) safely when used properly How many people really know the difference between wax and polish? Which waxes contain abrasives and which are safe to use? what do you use to apply the wax and remove it without scratching?

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CharlieX Member Joined: Jan 2007, #775 Gender: Male Posts: 51	Try searching around these forums: http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/detailing/ bunch of guys with mostly black BMW's - they really get into keeping their cars ultra clean. They all seem big proponents of Zanio.