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Old 09-26-2013, 07:17 AM   #1961
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Square tube is stronger too. It's really about look preference
Be careful with this statement.

Square tube is not stronger in all cases. It is stronger in bending when flat top and bottom, due to the increased material located away from the neutral axis.

When placed in bending with corners top and bottom it is not stronger.

Also the dent or crush resistance of square tube is much lower than round tubing as well.

But yeah, mainly a matter of preference.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:27 AM   #1962
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I have dents in my 1.75'' x .120'' wall DOM sliders. i can't imagine what equall thickness box would look like at this point. box does slide realy nicely along things though, due to thetypically lower pressures at the contact point.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:38 AM   #1963
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Here's some stuff that was welded for my brother's truck. One of the guys at the shop did all this

They removed the spare tire and made a rack for the three batteries



The motorized piece behind the the iPad


Screws on to the mount. And a video of it all together, but still incomplete http://instagram.com/p/es2M8yw4D8/
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #1964
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My welds are actually improving a lot. I think the biggest improvement came when I did practice runs for each bead, just to check and make sure my elbow wouldn't hit anything and I had a decent grip. Both of which contributed a lot to the shitty welds I had before.

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Old 09-26-2013, 12:38 PM   #1965
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My welds are actually improving a lot. I think the biggest improvement came when I did practice runs for each bead, just to check and make sure my elbow wouldn't hit anything and I had a decent grip. Both of which contributed a lot to the shitty welds I had before.
I always do this, make sure nothing gets hooked when trying to move, space, grip, etc. So many times I find I am stepping on the leads or something stupid too
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:47 PM   #1966
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My welds are actually improving a lot. I think the biggest improvement came when I did practice runs for each bead, just to check and make sure my elbow wouldn't hit anything and I had a decent grip. Both of which contributed a lot to the shitty welds I had before.

Looking good John
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #1967
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:08 PM   #1968
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What have I done

haha, I remember that same feeling!
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #1969
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Been working on this lately:







Lots of welding here.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:12 PM   #1970
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I just enjoy being the youngest fabricator on here
enjoy it man! I look back on some of the stuff I fabbed in highschool and shortly thereafter, and it was pretty cool.

after getting a job as a fabber, my mind apparently closed substantially. i was at a get-together a while back when i suddenly noticed the bbq we were cooking on was one i made in high-school. i was able to admire the creativity that went into it as i can no longer do that today.

all cuts free-hand torched, tubing bends made by notching, bending, welding, and blending smooth. (using a cutoff wheel to remove material every inch and "kinking" bends). just seems like i cant do shit anymore that isn't ok'd by and engineer (they only like squares and triangles. . . right triangels), cnc cut, and fit to perfection.

i fucking over-think everything i do on my own now, and am trapped by it. bottom line: if you want to continue being a good fabber, don't get a job as one, especially in a shop that caters to industrial/commercial needs.

for the record, i am no longer an in-shop fabricator, i run piping for the same company. layout, fit, and weld. fun stuff, but in learning piping, i was groomed to no longer trust any joint not covered in 7018. . . fml
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:20 PM   #1971
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Been working on this lately:







Lots of welding here.
well that's not very fair now is it? wheres mine?

seriously, what axle are you running?

and my main question is, why no leaf sprun solid axle 2nd gens out there? i want to see that, so i can copy it
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:14 AM   #1972
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I just enjoy being the youngest fabricator on here
Soon you'll be the old guy


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I hate warping.. I hate warping. I he warping.
Me to!


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enjoy it man! I look back on some of the stuff I fabbed in highschool and shortly thereafter, and it was pretty cool.

after getting a job as a fabber, my mind apparently closed substantially. i was at a get-together a while back when i suddenly noticed the bbq we were cooking on was one i made in high-school. i was able to admire the creativity that went into it as i can no longer do that today.

all cuts free-hand torched, tubing bends made by notching, bending, welding, and blending smooth. (using a cutoff wheel to remove material every inch and "kinking" bends). just seems like i cant do shit anymore that isn't ok'd by and engineer (they only like squares and triangles. . . right triangels), cnc cut, and fit to perfection.

i fucking over-think everything i do on my own now, and am trapped by it. bottom line: if you want to continue being a good fabber, don't get a job as one, especially in a shop that caters to industrial/commercial needs.

for the record, i am no longer an in-shop fabricator, i run piping for the same company. layout, fit, and weld. fun stuff, but in learning piping, i was groomed to no longer trust any joint not covered in 7018. . . fml
I'm the opposite kinda, when I'm making stuff for myself i hardly even think about it, my anal self somehow disappears. kinda annoying on things i actually want to look good but i like not cutting to some crazy decimal number, just hack the shit off!

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For sure! Everything I make is free hand cutting with a torch and grinding it to fit lol. I definitely wouldn't mind getting into fabrication as a career but would rather work out of a small time shop that still did stuff the old fashioned way rather than CNC everything.

Just feels more custom and homemade if you cut every piece yourself in my opinion.

Like tonight's learning lesson = don't forget that metal warps lol, so simple yet didnt even think about it before cutting with a torch.

So after 12+ hours of building a high clearance bumper today, I'm calling it a wash and cutting everything off cause I'm not happy with it lol.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:15 AM   #1973
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not seeing any warping in the last pics. You need some tools to blend yo welds.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:44 AM   #1974
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It's not finished. I need to hit it with some 120grit flap disk and it'd blend nicely. Here's the warping
How thick is the plate?
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3/16". Either gonna skip around when cutting and welding next time or gonna use 1/4"
1/4" will still warp if over heated as well so just watch out for that.
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Yea I just know it won't warp as bad. Just gonna skip around when cutting it next time. Oh well, not bad for my first attempt at a HC bumper if you ask me ! Just gonna cut the sides off next week and startling fresh
Try cutting those sides with an angle grinder to avoid warping.
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Will try that next time! Like I said, ima just cut these sides off and rebuild it next week
You could also use some agle or channel with a slight bend in it, and weld it to the inside. A lot of the armor plate I used to weld had to have "bars" installed to keep everything straight and square. Used lots of gussets too, but removed them after material was cool. 1/4"- 3/4" steel armor, & 1/2"-2" aluminum armor. All done with tig and spray arc. Shit would bow like CRAZY without the gussets and reinforcement bars
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Great advice! Y'all are really helping me learn young! Lol.
I learned to tig at 14. Hands down, the most usefull thing I ever learned in school, 'cause it pays my bills. I don't know what your career plans are, but welding is always in demand, and a great back-up career if another one doesn't work out
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Career= welding, but more towards fabrication. Don't wanna be a line welder or anything.
I hear ya. I work in a shop, and tig stainless pipe 95% of the time. Easy money. I tinker with truck stuff on the side
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