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Old 12-07-2012, 08:10 AM   #41
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Definitely need a constant load path from roof trusses to wall (clips) and wall to the foundation. 48" anchor bolt spacing for the bases is pretty common for what we do here in Indiana and Iowa has the same wind design speeds as us. A lot of times though, based on code uplift, the dead load of the roof will offset the majority of that uplift and not many truss clips or base anchors are needed (hence the seemingly large 4' spacing)


Congrats on building the house OP! Just moved into my newly built house in June. Very excited stuff. I'm surprised you're 6 months in though and still have six months left. The whole process took me 5-6 months total

We just broke ground last week. The first 6 months was the planning and BS to get things set in motion.
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Definitely need a constant load path from roof trusses to wall (clips) and wall to the foundation. 48" anchor bolt spacing for the bases is pretty common for what we do here in Indiana and Iowa has the same wind design speeds as us. A lot of times though, based on code uplift, the dead load of the roof will offset the majority of that uplift and not many truss clips or base anchors are needed (hence the seemingly large 4' spacing)
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I'm kinda suprised at the minimal uplift connections you stated

We generally do more than that here , without the tornado threat
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I'm kinda suprised at the minimal uplift connections you stated

We generally do more than that here , without the tornado threat
We don't really design for tornadoes, per se. The design wind speed we use is 90MPH and generally translates to ~25psf uplift. Then you have 15psf dead load, so you're really just looking at 10psf net uplift (maybe 400 pounds per truss - easily handled by a small clip). Tornadoes go up to 300MPH, so I think the general consensus is, if you are unlucky enough to get hit by a tornado, a stick-frame building isn't going to hold up anyways. So we just design for heavy storm winds
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We don't really design for tornadoes, per se. The design wind speed we use is 90MPH and generally translates to ~25psf uplift. Then you have 15psf dead load, so you're really just looking at 10psf net uplift (maybe 400 pounds per truss - easily handled by a small clip). Tornadoes go up to 300MPH, so I think the general consensus is, if you are unlucky enough to get hit by a tornado, a stick-frame building isn't going to hold up anyways. So we just design for heavy storm winds
Are you a PEng ?
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Hopefully soon...will take the exam in a year and a half.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:59 AM   #47
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We don't really design for tornadoes, per se. The design wind speed we use is 90MPH and generally translates to ~25psf uplift. Then you have 15psf dead load, so you're really just looking at 10psf net uplift (maybe 400 pounds per truss - easily handled by a small clip). Tornadoes go up to 300MPH, so I think the general consensus is, if you are unlucky enough to get hit by a tornado, a stick-frame building isn't going to hold up anyways. So we just design for heavy storm winds

This is good to know. I know we do get at least 1 storm a year that gets 60-80 mph winds coming through. Trying to build for a storm with 200 mph winds would just cost too much, that is why we have basements.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:06 PM   #48
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You should do a poured in place wall all the way up AND a poured concrete roof tied in to the walls with rebar hooks, on a light weight pan deck sitting on steel trusses.
I designed a house like that in FL for the hurricanes back in '07. I was going to build it for myself when the market crashed. Good luck tornado, give it your best

The only thing you would have to replace would be some windows, siding and roof shingles. Otherwise its bomb proof.

It would cost a bit more, but man!! Solid.

The engineer looked at me like I was a nutjob. He actually said, have you ever heard of overkill.

Plus the roof would NEVER leak.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:28 PM   #49
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:53 PM   #50
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:50 PM   #51
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I thought you have like 6 months to go?... That's not soon!
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Yes it is
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:55 PM   #53
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I thought you have like 6 months to go?... That's not soon!
It is for home builders...who are typically slower than molasses in winter
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:25 AM   #54
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Hope the snow we got yesterday didn't send your builder into hibernation
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Hope the snow we got yesterday didn't send your builder into hibernation
Nope, it will be back in the 40's later this week.
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looks like a pretty spacious house!

Im just finally finishing mine up been moved in for 2months let me tell you the process seems forever but once your moved in its well worth it
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looks like a pretty spacious house!

Im just finally finishing mine up been moved in for 2months let me tell you the process seems forever but once your moved in its well worth it
And the honeydo lists will keep ypu busy for 2 to 3 years.
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And the honeydo lists will keep ypu busy for 2 to 3 years.

honey do list for only 2-3 years, I could only be so lucky.
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I'm kinda suprised at the minimal uplift connections you stated

We generally do more than that here , without the tornado threat
I have found that Canada is always a step or three ahead of the states as far as code revisions go. As far as hurricane ties are concerned where I live every truss is required a hurricane tie regardless of the uplift value.
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