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New welder, gotta learn how to weld

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by offroadwonder, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Jan 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
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    offroadwonder

    offroadwonder [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I bought a new Harbor Freight welder yesterday and got the 240v wired in today. So I got to play a little. Here are pictures of my first beads ever! Ugly as sin, but they are the first steps in being able build some of my own trail armor.

    All you experienced welders feel free to tell me just how bad these welds are, as long as you follow it up with how to fix it.

    IMAG0095_zps8438acd2_0d21fb0d219e3e041c00e415b3102a4352caba47.jpg
    My first three attempts all running into each other.
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    Attempt number four is prettier, but I don't know how to know for sure how well it is penetrating.
    IMAG0099_zpsb790797d_2722b5e8b33c2755b3b4cdb894a81cf944c29909.jpg

    By the way, all ye neigh-sayers about the Chicago Electric welders, it will blow a hole straight through 1/4" plate. It just did it (oops).
     
  2. Jan 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
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    wildjerseyfirefighter

    wildjerseyfirefighter I sell fishing and fishing accessories

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    No gas? I wouldnt use it.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2013 at 5:47 PM
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    pudge151

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    i know the local trade high school near me offers night classes. you may want to look into that
     
  4. Jan 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
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    offroadwonder

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    It is capable of gas, but I haven't bought any of the necessary equipment. I won't spend that money until I have some flux-core practice under my belt.

    Lol... oh come-on, I'm not that bad!
     
  5. Jan 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
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    wildjerseyfirefighter

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    Flux core isnt really a skill you need to have. :confused:

    Learn with gas.welds will come out better.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2013 at 6:59 PM
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    % 75/25 - Argon/CO2

    MIG's better if you have the capability.

    learn using that.

    muh $ .02
     
  7. Jan 19, 2013 at 7:20 PM
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    offroadwonder

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    Why so against the flux. I know it makes dirty, spattery welds, but is there some reason that it would penetrate better or produce a stronger weld? Just curious.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM
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    I'm not against flux welding...
    tho' with the common splatter issue... I'd prefer to leave
    that for barnyard welding :D

    On your truck, ugly welds are just that :eek:
    you will come to prefer MIG's cleaner welds W/ less splatter

    Be sure you clean to bare metal for the grounding (helpful)
    dirty metal, to be welded, is a spoiler...
    so... remove any oil, residue, etc. from the work areas ;)

    practice, practice, practice

    start with simple projects in the beginning

    A class is helpful in understanding the basics
    Tho' all the know how is posted online if you look.
    ^ it's not like welding is a new thing ;)

    did I say practice !? :p
     
  9. Jan 23, 2013 at 3:56 PM
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    spend the money get the gas set up......weld are much better, stronger and easier.
    I was in the same boat once you are now.
     

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