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Old 02-22-2013, 05:31 PM   #41
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i would like to see you guys crowning studs when you only have 18 months to build 78 houses. Our record was 6 guys 2 house completely framed in two day.
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i would like to see you guys crowning studs when you only have 18 months to build 78 houses. Our record was 6 guys 2 house completely framed in two day.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:42 PM   #44
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You said you don't use studs that are too crowned

them houses are weeble wobbles
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You said you don't use studs that are too crowned
I dont sight every stud. But if i notice its crowned bad without even sighting it use that for blocking
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:49 PM   #46
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I dont sight every stud. But if i notice its crowned bad without even sighting it use that for blocking
Does your company have a back framing / pick up crew ?
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Does your company have a back framing / pick up crew ?
Back framing as in stuff like chases and soffits no, pick up crew as in clean up our messes and scrap, si senor.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:55 PM   #48
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Back framing as in stuff like chases and soffits no, pick up crew as in clean up our messes and scrap, si senor.
Back framing crew , as in come in and fix wrong sized rough openings , straighten crowned walls etc
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as far as crowning and bowing goes, I am meticulous and will go through stacks for hours just to find the straightest pieces of lumber.

i'm probably going to calculate and buy the lumber this weekend. Then frame the next weekend.
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Back framing crew , as in come in and fix wrong sized rough openings , straighten crowned walls etc
Oh lol well when speed is the focus, mistakes are bound to happen but we aren't complete hacks. There was one instance where the first floor exterior walls were framed backwards had to change a few ROs on that one lol
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Forget the PT bottom plate and put sill gasket under the bottom plate unless you want arsenic in your house for some reason , the top plate doesn't need to be doubled if the joists are directly above the studs
You guys still use arsenic in your treated up there?
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:13 PM   #52
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Oh lol well when speed is the focus, mistakes are bound to happen but we aren't complete hacks. There was one instance where the first floor exterior walls were framed backwards had to change a few ROs on that one lol
All out speed is false economy and results in crappy results that plague everyone else that follows the framers

It doesn't take anymore time to do stuff as simple as crowning studs and makes all the difference

Surely you crown joists and rafters
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:14 PM   #53
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You guys still use arsenic in your treated up there?
CCA was replaced by ACQ in most applications a few years back , except for plywood
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CCA was replaced by ACQ in most applications a few years back , except for plywood
We use Copper Azole, found the ACQ to be to corrosive. It's not much better tho, still need hot dipped for stainless for exterior. They say not required indoors, but meh .. I wouldn't risk it.

And aye non-treated and use, http://webtrack.dunnlumber.com/Produ...pg=0&pid=23935 for some reason not showing the 3.5".
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We use Copper Azole, found the ACQ to be to corrosive. It's not much better tho, still need hot dipped for stainless for exterior. They say not required indoors, but meh .. I wouldn't risk it.

And aye non-treated and use, http://webtrack.dunnlumber.com/Produ...pg=0&pid=23935 for some reason not showing the 3.5".
You carry borate treated BlueWood ?
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All out speed is false economy and results in crappy results that plague everyone else that follows the framers

It doesn't take anymore time to do stuff as simple as crowning studs and makes all the difference

Surely you crown joists and rafters
Yes of course i crown joist and rafters. And i agree with you, i have had to trim some crappy framing jobs, it takes twice as long and comes out like crap. But when you have a strict deadline and budget speed is the name of the game, ill be the first to admit that those houses sucked, but the project mangers were only worried about money, not how nice the houses came out. We contracted jobs for the state when they were building assisted living complexes, these wernt high end homes. I do not prefer to build like this at all. My posts in this thread really have no benifit to the OP so i am going to stop threadjacking
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as far as crowning and bowing goes, I am meticulous and will go through stacks for hours just to find the straightest pieces of lumber.

i'm probably going to calculate and buy the lumber this weekend. Then frame the next weekend.
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All out speed is false economy and results in crappy results that plague everyone else that follows the framers

It doesn't take anymore time to do stuff as simple as crowning studs and makes all the difference

Surely you crown joists and rafters


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