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Old 12-18-2013, 08:24 AM   #41
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Working on the same general thread discussion here, I already have a welder that I got years ago. It is a 110V model, and is a 135A unit. Question is, would that be sufficient to weld together the plate bumper kit. I'm not concerned about speed of welding, or single pass. I just am curious if it will get the job done. I'd love to get a new welder, but why spend the money at all if I don't have to, ya know?
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x2 i feel the same way if i can get by with a 130a welder just to do the extremely basic stuff i plan to do with it anyways, would it work?
if i were you id just take it to a welding shop and have them throw it together for you youll still come out cheaper then buying one pre built, for me i guess i wouldnt want to ruin my new bumper but thats just me and im not a very good welder haha

Yes, a quality 110 welder will have no issue doing quarter inch plate with a single pass weld.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:36 AM   #42
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x2 i feel the same way if i can get by with a 130a welder just to do the extremely basic stuff i plan to do with it anyways, would it work?
if i were you id just take it to a welding shop and have them throw it together for you youll still come out cheaper then buying one pre built, for me i guess i wouldnt want to ruin my new bumper but thats just me and im not a very good welder haha
It's not a matter of "ruining" a bumper. It is a personal challenge. I have welded many times before, but it has been either arc for heavy work, or light MIG for light work. Nothing bigger than basic sheet metal. So this will be the thickest I will have welded in MIG. If I make a mistake, I can simply spend the hours grinding it down and fixing it! And hours, and hours, and hours....

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Yes, a quality 110 welder will have no issue doing quarter inch plate with a single pass weld.
I appreciate the input. Thanks.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:42 AM   #43
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If you are worried that it wont get hot enough, through flux in it and strap on a tank of pure C02 to getter nice en hot.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:47 AM   #44
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Run CO2 with Flux?
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:59 AM   #45
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Run CO2 with Flux?
FCAW-G gas shielded flux, the C02 will give better penetration than a regular C25 mix on non flux single shield wire.
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With proper joint prep. and preheat with propane, you can weld a wider range of thickness' of steel with a 140 or 180 welding machine. Adding a bevel or chamfered edge with a grinder is the quickest and easiest way to obtain this result.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:16 AM   #47
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With proper joint prep. and preheat with propane, you can weld a wider range of thickness' of steel with a 140 or 180 welding machine. Adding a bevel or chamfered edge with a grinder is the quickest and easiest way to obtain this result.
What are the advantages of using propane over a rosebud and oxyacetylene for pre-heating?
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:27 AM   #48
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I would guess more folks might have a propane torch laying around???? we just always use the oxy/acet torch because it is on the same truck the welder is on when we have to heat up hard plate to weld... would think they both serve the same purpose though.
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I just use propane as an example since it is simple and convenient to access. Propane is typically cheaper and has a higher BTU rating at a lower temperature for heating up material.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:38 AM   #50
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I just use propane as an example since it is simple and convenient to access. Propane is typically cheaper and has a higher BTU rating at a lower temperature for heating up material.
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:43 PM   #51
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:40 AM   #52
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Take a class, get some burn time, save up and buy a decent welder. At least you'll know what you're looking at when you're putting your money down. Personally I would buy new.
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I'm just starting out myself. Could go with this set-up for a limited budget:

· At least two (2) 12-volt car batteries (charged)
· At least two (2) sets of jumper cables or one set of jumper cables and a “patch” cable
· Vise-Grips
· Wire Brush
· File
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· Welding Goggles or hood with at least a shade 10 lens
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I'm just starting out myself. Could go with this set-up for a limited budget:

· At least two (2) 12-volt car batteries (charged)
· At least two (2) sets of jumper cables or one set of jumper cables and a “patch” cable
· Vise-Grips
· Wire Brush
· File
· Leather Gloves
· Welding Goggles or hood with at least a shade 10 lens
· 3/32” Welding rod


6011 welding rod
347 stainless welding rod
1/8 rod
3/32 rod
Haha I have considered something like this, but I'm leaning towards this guy, looks like a nice little set up with the option to run with or without gas. It's got some solid reviews, and runs off a standard plug..
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500559-...=Hobart+welder
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If you have any plans to ever weld sheet metal, you'll want infinite wire speed and voltage adjustments.
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If you have any plans to ever weld sheet metal, you'll want infinite wire speed and voltage adjustments.
Ya I'm thinking just a pretty basic one to Learn on then hopefully get the hang of it and upgrade in a year or two
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