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Old 06-21-2011, 07:32 PM   #1
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Should I improve the IFS or go SAS on my Pickup?

So thats kind of where I'm at.

SAS:
I have an 81 toy front axle hub to hub.
I have a 78 Bronco, I don't know if I can use these springs for the front of the Toy or not.

Now for the IFS I was thinking a mid travel setup possibly.

I can see a reason for both. The SAS simply because I have a few parts already I know its not much but its a start. Honestly I don't wheel that often because of work and the trails I have hit have always been within my and my trucks ability. Hence the reason for a trail rig. But honestly I think a good IFS setup would be plenty. The SAS would be alot of work no doubt. The IFS would be simple remove and replace.

Lets have some thoughts.

In reading the responses I have decided to add this:

I own a 2007 Tacoma, my daily driver with TC Upper control Arms, 3" lift, 33's. I wheel this truck as often as I can but my job and where I live limit me. I have taken this truck to its limits and decided to keep it as a daily driver.

This thread is about my 1990 Toyota pickup truck. I either want to do a SAS or a long travel on it. I was wanting people opinions on what they think would be best for the 1990 pickup.

This post will be added to my first post on here to help with the confusion.
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If you don't plan on hardcore wheeling my vote it to stay with the IFS
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seems to me like you have already made up your mind.
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seems to me like you have already made up your mind.
x2 sounds like your leaning more towards the IFS, go with what you think will fit you best. And either way you'll still have that SAS still sitting around if you change your mind...alotta work though to change your mind
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:18 AM   #5
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Actually I was set on doing the SAS, until yesterday when I came across a 4runner with a long travel setup. Kind of got me thinking. The whole reason I got a trail rig was because I was pushing my 07 too hard its still my daily driver and 1 side of dents is enough damage on this truck, however I still want to do more wheeling. I supose i'll keep collecting parts for the SAS and plan to move ahead with improved travel for the IFS.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:30 AM   #6
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If your referring to a SAS on your 07 then you can forget the front Toy axle. It's not even close to being wide enough.
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If your referring to a SAS on your 07 then you can forget the front Toy axle. It's not even close to being wide enough.
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If its for a non dd trail rig I say go for it, but if you don't wheel it much, what's the point?
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:29 AM   #11
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I own a 2007 Tacoma, my daily driver with TC Upper control Arms, 3" lift, 33's. I wheel this truck as often as I can but my job and where I live limits me. I have taken this truck to its limits and decided to keep it as a daily driver.

This thread is about my 1990 Toyota pickup truck. I either want to do a SAS or a long travel on it. I was wanting people opinions on what they think would be best for the 1990 pickup.

This post will be added to my first post on here to help with the confusion.
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I own a 2007 Tacoma, my daily driver with TC Upper control Arms, 3" lift, 33's. I wheel this truck as often as I can but my job and where I live limits me. I have taken this truck to its limits and decided to keep it as a daily driver.

This thread is about my 1990 Toyota pickup truck. I either want to do a SAS or a long travel on it. I was wanting people opinions on what they think would be best for the 1990 pickup.

This post will be added to my first post on here to help with the confusion.
I would say SAS because you already have the axle and a sloid axle will preform on the rocks way better then long travel. IMO long travle is for high speed off roading and a solid axle for slower rock crawling type of off road. Also on your 90 pickup its pretty cheap to do a swap.
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As far as pricing goes I don't see much difference. Money wise I say SAS.
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I would go SAS that LT kit looks kinda crappy but i don't know much about LT. if your crawling up ledges and rocks you will be much happier with a solid axle.
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maybe im missing something but u already have a straight axle toyota.......y dont u just wheel the '81?
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if you do decide to LT the truck instead of SAS, i'd def go with TC over that blazeland stuff... i realize it's twice the cost, but it's going to be much stronger, durable, and better performing than modified stock parts...

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Not only that but the LT kit has most of what I need, but all of those extra parts are reccomended and they cost also.

I had all intentions of parting together the front end for the SA, and stumbled across this kit. I have intentions of making it a stock SA for the most part, basically making my 90 like the older SA pickups.

But then In my searches I came across this LT 4runner.
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maybe im missing something but u already have a straight axle toyota.......y dont u just wheel the '81?
I just have the front axle.

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if you do decide to LT the truck instead of SAS, i'd def go with TC over that blazeland stuff... i realize it's twice the cost, but it's going to be much stronger, durable, and better performing than modified stock parts...

http://www.chaosfab.com/95000BJ.php

Thanks for the link I have never considered LT for my trucks as I thought they were primarily for High speeds and dessert running.
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Thanks for the link I have never considered LT for my trucks as I thought they were primarily for High speeds and dessert running.
they are, but you can still have fun with it crawling and hitting trails

i was more trying to steer you towards a better LT kit than the blazeland junk... not so much trying to convince you to go LT
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