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Ford Raptors Frames Bending While Off Roading

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by rcbs204, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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    jandrews

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    The Ranger was an honest truck. People give Ford a lot of grief for never updating it, but honestly, what did they need to update? Trucks have come as far as they should.

    Frankly, in many areas, they have gone TOO far. I think you made the point last time we were wrenching that these second gens are "4wd Camrys that happen to be bullet proof", and that's about right.

    It would be nice to get back to the work-truck golden era of the 60s and 70s when they were spartan tanks rather than the cars-with-beds we get now.
     
  2. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:06 PM
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  3. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:09 PM
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    Ahh shit, that is some funny shit right there!
     
  4. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:15 PM
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    I would be surprised if Ford covers this under warranty.
     
  5. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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    Yeah i cannot imagine what a frame replacement would cost.
     
  6. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:29 PM
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  7. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:32 PM
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    That sucks.
     
  8. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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    Hey man! whats wrong with monster?! :)001.jpg
     
  9. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:46 PM
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  10. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM
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  11. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM
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    Ha ha thanks guys! I'm sure if you met me you'd see that i was not the village tool(even though i do own a pair of Oakley Gascans). I just think the lime green and dark blue is a good color combo.
     
  13. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM
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    He just needs an AAL.
     
  14. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM
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    Yes i read that whole damn thread, looks like these poor bastards are being denied repair. Here is an excerpt from the thread.

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    So, I was sent the pictures from the engineer. His report states "Extensive Customer Abuse, leading to frame damage" as cause for denial.

    Pictures they included:

    - Scratches on skid plate (NO dents, not even small ones)
    - Worn rear tires, stock BFGs worn from climbing and spinning on loose rock
    - Scratches on underside of rear bumper & one tow hook (from 4x4 training class I paid for)
    - Scratch on underside of drivers side side-step
    - Scratched and cracked plastic cover on rear drivers side shock
    - Missing spare tire (This apparently indicates abuse) as I had new tires on order

    Best of all?
    - Leak around rear diff cover, which was already re-sealed once under warranty first week of owning the truck, but is leaking again! Apparently, that's my fault too now.

    In short, NONE of these items relate to a bent frame in any way, but scratches will add up and they will claim "Abuse" from those items above. THIS MAY HAPPEN FOR ANY ISSUE YOU BRING THE TRUCK IN FOR!!!!

    Of those items listed, not a SINGLE one of those items happened on the Raptor Run, which is the shittiest part. They all happened the 2nd week I owned the truck, during the 4x4 safety course that I attended at Gorman... ALL low speed damage when crawling in and over some ditches and rocks. The rear shock cover damage "could" have happened on the run, but I noticed the plastic was already seriously worn out after my first off road trip to Johnson Valley, they must get sand blasted!

    So, in short.. SCRATCHES WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY and paint a picture of abuse. I could have been deceitful and waited until I had new tires on the truck... Or replaced the plastic shock covers before taking in for a claim, but never imagined those would be used as evidence of abuse, and denying a claim.

    Furthermore, I MUST have my truck repaired by a dealership immediately, or they will cancel my chassis warranty. I then asked her "What's the chassis warranty good for anyway, as I'm going to be denied any future claims for the EXACT same reasons they already found?" Of course, no answer... Just the same "Case-by-Case" bullshit.

    So, those of you with this issue, DO NOT TAKE YOUR TRUCK TO THE DEALER FOR ANY REASON BEFORE HAVING IT FIXED!!! They will note the damage, and REQUIRE that a dealer fixes it or cancel your warranty.

    Repair is estimated at $765, which is fine... But going forward I know they're going to deny pretty much any and all items they can for the same existing scratches, which is what's really pissing me off... Ugh, guess I gotta fix all those too.
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  15. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:59 PM
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    What will end up happening is that Ford will deny any issues with the frame. Than next years model you'll see will end up having some type of frame reinforcement that will help increase " payload and towing " . They're not stupid, you admit to a frame issue with one and that turns into a multimillion dollar situation. Look at the toyota rust situations.
     
  16. Jul 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM
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    Good. Its the kids with the white ones that you have to look out for.....
     
  17. Jul 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM
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    You'd drive it......
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  18. Jul 8, 2011 at 8:21 PM
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    $765 for the repair? Didn't know these hydroformed frame rails can be straightened like that.

    Picture of the Taco's bump stop for comparison (photo from S_A_Aceman's post.

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    The frame is reinforced in the area, and the bump stop is on the axle, so there isn't a mounting hole to weaken the frame.
     
  19. Jul 8, 2011 at 8:46 PM
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    Yeah see that is just done correctly. You can bump that all day and not have an issue!!
     
  20. Jul 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM
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    So for you guys that do off-road, when i did my lift last weekend, i noticed that my rear bump stops on the frame, were full of mud. I cleaned mine out and they were starting to rust, there are two little drains on the back side there were plugged with pebbles. I cleaned them out with a screw driver and a shop vac, and it should drain properly now. Now all i got to do is remember to spray them out when i wash the truck, and they should last forever.
     

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