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Congress to hold hearings on Toyota recalls in Feb. 25

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by epa4wd, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM
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    ywen

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    why are all the fanbois standing up for Toyota? Don'y you want to know when the issue became apparent inside Toyota? Don't you want to hold them accountable if they tried to do anything behind the scene other than announcing to the public regarding the safety issues with their vehicles?

    "Let Toyota do their jobs?" Recalling 9million vehicles world-wide is "doing their job?"
     
  2. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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    Yes. Correcting a serious safety concern is any manufacturers job, especially when it affects public safety.
     
  3. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM
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    Correcting a safety issue when they were forced to do so. I don't have anything against Toyota but it is pretty obvious they knew there was an issue for a loooooooong time and didn't plan to do anything about until NHTSA stepped up.

    My opinion is that I would not defend any car company, they are all out for the same thing sell sell sell, they don't give crap about anything else. I'm talking about them as a Company and I'm not talking about X brand car vs Y brand car just to clarify.
     
  4. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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    and by the way not to defend Toyota, but I wouldn't hold them 100% responsible for the problem, as I think that CTS is more at fault. Toyota didn't have any problem with the other distributor, I do think Toyota is at fault for waiting until the last moment to do something about it / wait till they were forced to do something about it.
     
  5. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:29 PM
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    Leaving them along to do their job resulted in a horrible safety deficiency in their vehicles. Resulting in 9 millions vehicles recalled world wide. Do you still want them to do their jobs? Their job is also to be honest with the public. They obviously have not been honest throughout this whole time. Putting them up for questioning in front of Congress, while won't guarantee that honesty, is still better than nothing.

    Dude, the recall is world wide.. No way this is due to a manufacturing defect. Plus that crash with the trooper was in a Lexus, all Japn built..
     
  6. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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    I see your point as Honda had pedals made from the same source. Have there been any instances with Honda/Accura reported?
     
  7. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:37 PM
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    It doesn't matter were it was built, cars are like computers, someone comes up with the design, and you get parts from different suppliers, all you do is built it with the parts you received from the manufacturer, if a part from manufacturer works and one from another doesn't, it means one of them screw up.

    The recall has not been worldwide, the Floor mat issue was (pretty much).
    For example here in PR, Highlanders and Rav-4 come from Japan and they are NOT included in this recall.
     
  8. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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    NOt yet but you need to wait for a recall from another manufacture to realize it's a design defect. The fact that Yoda has extended recall to Europe and CHina tells you it's not manufacturing defect..

    Ha unless Toyota got hit with the bad luck stick and every unique pedal supplier they used all had manufacturing defects resulting in the same symptom... Yeah right..
     
  9. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:42 PM
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    Correct me if Im wrong but the recall is not extended to Europe and China. The floormats issue was but not the defective pedal problem.
     
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    Suppliers don't use parts from Toyota to build the pedals.. they build the pedals to spec, using materials within the contracted price per pedal.

    Recall is world wide! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/business/30toyota.html
     
  11. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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    That is what I was trying to say, they DON'T use toyota's parts thats why one manufacturer has problems (CTS) and the other dosen't.
     
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    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    Not necessarily true. It can still be a manufacturing defect. HOWEVER, CTS did receive multiple quality awards from Toyota; one being a 100% on-time defect free quality award.
     
  13. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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    Toyota US may have not taken a bailout, but I believe that they did get assistance from the Japanese government.

    I'm glad they are doing something about it, but it may hurt them in the long run waiting so long and the government should stay out or it.

    Also, you can't blame CTS. All they do is manufacture the parts to the given specifications.
     
  14. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM
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    True, if the issue was only limited to vehicles with CTS manufactured pedals.

    However recall is being applied to pedals manufactures by other companies as well. http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/201001280844DOWJONESDJONLINE000465_FORTUNE5.htm

    So the probability of multiple companies manufacturing with the same defect leading to the same issue is small.
     
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    Congress couldn't find their way out of a wet paper sack...the whole lot of them.
     
  17. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM
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    Good point.. my bad.
     
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    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.

    I think we will have to play the "wait and see" game. But I believe Toyota will be truthful regardless of Congress' involvement.
     
  19. Jan 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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    The Toyota execs should roll up to the hearing in a couple of GM cars and when Congress asks why they could reply

    "When the other auto execs came here for bailout money you gave them shit for using 1st class transportation, we didn't want the same lecture so drove Guvment Motor cars"
     
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    I have read a theory on how the government wants to blow this up because since Toyota and ford are now recalling autos this gives GM and dodge good ammo for sales. Why would they care you say. Because the government now owns some of GM and Dodge.
     

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